we wouldn't be here if we just paid as we went.....health insurance is a joke.....no one can predict your body/my body etc etc.....insurance companies removed the 'burden' from companies with sick employees....isn't that what government jobs and their guranteed pensions/health insurance are for??.....or how about SS/medicare/medicaid.....
our soul has been sucked out and space left,filled with entitlements.....
so if I am 'sicker' and/or 'more unhealthier' than you, I will use more of the commune(al) resources than you? and that's okay with you?
healthcare is PERSONAL------healthinsurance is a PRODUCT.......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
The House Vote on the Senate Healthcare Bill Is the Final Vote; Obama Will Sign It Into Law
Posted by SusanAnne Hiller (Profile)
Friday, March 5th at 2:33PM EST
Americans need to understand the devastating significance of the House vote on the Senate health care bill set for March 18th. The Democrats have–by design–created the perfect storm to take over the US healthcare system, while providing an ideal distraction–reconciliation.
First, let’s examine exactly how we got here. In late December, while Americans were arguing that no one had read the bill, Leiberman was posturing to vote against the bill with a public option, and the debate on abortion continued, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) took an existing HOUSE-passed bill, H.R.3950–the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009–and here’s how it unfolded:
10/8/2009: Received in the Senate. Read the first time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time. 10/13/2009: Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 175. 11/19/2009: Motion to proceed to consideration of measure made in Senate. (consideration: CR S1157 11/19/2009: Cloture motion on the motion to proceed to the bill presented in Senate. (consideration: CR S11578; text: CR S1157 11/20/2009: Motion to proceed to consideration of measure considered in Senate. (consideration: CR S11826-11879, S11888-11903) 11/21/2009: Motion to proceed to consideration of measure considered in Senate. (consideration: CR S11907-11967) 11/21/2009: Cloture on the motion to proceed to the bill invoked in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 60 - 39. Record Vote Number: 353. (consideration: CR S11967; text: CR S11967) 11/21/2009: Motion to proceed to consideration of measure agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent. 11/21/2009: Measure laid before Senate by motion. (consideration: CR S11967) 11/21/2009: S.AMDT.2786 Amendment SA 2786 proposed by Senator Reid. (consideration: CR S11967) In the nature of a substitute. emphasis mine
The GOP must have known what was about to happen next because they were united in voting “Nay” against this bill on November 21, 2009. Additionally, the Senate Amendment offered by Reid was none other than the Senate version of the healthcare bill.
Reid HAD to do this. Why? Because all legislation that raises taxes MUST originate in the House of Representatives and H.R. 3590 satisfies that requirement.
I will repeat that, Harry Reid switched the language in H.R. 3590 and replaced it with the Senate’s version of the health care system takeover in order to satisfy the requirement for all legislation raising taxes to originate in the House. The bill summary outlines the evolution of this bill:
OFFICIAL TITLE AS INTRODUCED: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first-time homebuyers credit in the case of members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes.
OFFICIAL TITLE AS AMENDED BY SENATE: An act entitled The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
For the record, Republicans did challenge this amendment substitution, but were defeated. The simple fact that the Democrats voted on Reid’s “amendment” is appalling and demonstrates their condoning of the abuses we are seeing unfold. Democrat Senators are now willing accomplices to the destruction and socialization of the US health system.
The deceptive practices to pass a government takeover of healthcare can be summed up as the ultimate betrayal by the Democrats against the American people in order to ram through their progressive, socialistic, freedom-stripping policies.
Furthermore, the Democrats talk of “reconciliation” or the nuclear option is nothing more than a diversion from what the real goal is–to pass the Senate version through the House and then have Obama sign it into law.
And once signed into law, does anyone really think that Obama will keep his promises of the “fixes” through the reconciliation process after he got what he wanted via the Senate bill? Seriously, he will have the healthcare takeover he wants, so why make the House and Senate suffer more.
In addition, I don’t think that the House will hold the bill to work out differences between the two chambers as is being floated. While it may be an optional maneuver, the Democrats need the tax increases to take effect now so they can offset some of their rabid spending.
The House Democrats have a choice: either stand with the American people and kill the bill or endorse the deception, betrayal, and bribes of Harry Reid, Obama, Pelosi, and the Senate Democrats, in addition to the destruction of the US health system. Either way, the American people will never forget.
Pelosi's grip on House slips By: Jonathan Allen March 9, 2010 04:39 AM EST
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is not accustomed to the word she’s been hearing far more frequently in recent days: “no.”
Over the past two weeks, Pelosi has faced a series of subtle but significant challenges to her authority — revolts from Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee, the Congressional Black Caucus, the Blue Dog Coalition and politically vulnerable first- and second-term members.
The dynamic stems from an “every man for himself” attitude developing in the Democratic Caucus rather than a loss of respect for Pelosi, according to a senior Democratic aide. But it’s making Pelosi’s life — and efforts to maintain Democratic unity — harder.
And it’s noteworthy, in part, because Pelosi’s signature strength has been a firmer hand than past Democratic leaders — an aptitude for wielding raw power in a consensus-minded caucus.
But her inability — or unwillingness — to dictate when Rep. Charles Rangel would resign his Ways and Means Committee chairmanship and who would replace him is one sign that she is commanding the caucus with less authority.
Although he would give up his gavel the next day, Rangel defiantly pronounced he was still chairman after leaving a come-to-Jesus meeting last Tuesday night in Pelosi’s ceremonial office next to the House floor. Her first choice to succeed him, Pete Stark of California, was rejected by the Ways and Means Committee members, as was her plan to split power on the committee between Stark and Rep. Sander Levin of Michigan. Pelosi’s backers said that what she really wanted was to avoid a fight for the gavel — and that she succeeded by refusing to apply a heavy hand.
But a veteran Democratic lawmaker told POLITICO the denouement was “an indication that things aren’t all hunky-dory.” ......................>>>>..............>>>>............http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34100.html
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Americans will regret it if Democrats succeed with health care plan
The Democratic Party seems determined to go down in flames, and take the rest of us with them. Electoral defeats in Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts, cratering poll numbers and growing public anger has yet to dissuade them from their current socialist, heavy-handed approach to health care. Yet they continue, willing to misuse the Senate “reconciliation” process, a budgetary tool, to circumvent any rules and safeguards that get in their way. They want the power over people’s lives that socialized health-care will bring, and are willing to sacrifice their current majorities to get it. That will not be all they sacrifice. Our country lacks the funds to pay for our current entitlement spending, much less this new albatross. Greece is facing financial collapse for promising more than it is capable of paying, with much of Europe close behind. California is in similar straits, as is New York. Loading the costs of a liberal medical boondoggle on top of our current problems will only accelerate the nation toward insolvency. At a time when government spending should be cut to avoid this fate, the Democrats seek instead to pour gasoline on the fire. At this point the fiscal and political reality is plain, even to the most optimistic of souls. To ignore it and plow forward regardless indicates either willful malevolence, or a political faith so complete that Democrats would rather see our liberty, prosperity, and strength fade than admit to themselves that their ideas have failed.
I must object to the increasingly condescending rhetoric from the left — Richard Cohen’s March 9 column [“Time for president to do a little ‘ramming’ on health care”] was only the latest example — which seeks to portray any criticism of President Obama’s agenda as the ignorant babble of beer-swilling rednecks. We need look no further for proof of the ruling elite’s contempt for the American people. Yes, we need health care reform, but not the current bill, with its coercive dictate that everyone must purchase coverage. If we accept this rape of our liberty, what next? Will this democracy vote itself out of existence, as Germany did in 1933, while being told “it’s for our own good?”
The American Revolution was fought because England was taxing the citizens unjustly. The power grab and taxes that are being created right now will make the reason we had the first one seem like chump change.
New Sen. Brown bashes Obama's 'bitter' health push New Sen. Brown bemoans year spent in 'bitter, destructive' drive to revamp health care system
By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Last updated: 9:45 p.m., Saturday, March 13, 2010
WASHINGTON -- Newly arrived Republican Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts accused President Barack Obama and Democrats on Saturday of a "bitter, destructive and endless" drive to pass health overhaul legislation that Brown warned would be disastrous.
"An entire year has gone to waste," Brown said in the weekly GOP radio and Internet address. "Millions of Americans have lost their jobs, and many more jobs are in danger. Even now, the president still hasn't gotten the message. "Somehow, the greater the public opposition to the health care bill, the more determined they seem to force it on us anyway."
Brown himself can claim responsibility for the Democrats' failure to pass health overhaul legislation to date. They were on the verge of doing so before Brown claimed the late Edward M. Kennedy's Senate seat in a special election upset in January, depriving Democrats of their filibuster-proof supermajority and throwing the health care effort into limbo.
It has been gradually revived, and Democrats are now pushing for final passage before Easter under complex Senate rules that would allow them to sidestep a Republican filibuster. Republicans in the House and Senate are unanimously opposed to the sweeping legislation, which would extend coverage to some 30 million uninsured Americans with a new mandate for nearly everyone to carry insurance.
The House minority leader, Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, said in an interview for broadcast Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union" that if House Democrats had the votes to pass the health care bill they would have acted by now.
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