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Point taken somebody, but males don't have sex to impregnate. They instinctively have sex for just that...sex!

Women on the other hand, instinctively have sex to become impregnated.

Modern society has just led them to believe differently. They are told that it's ok to 'just have sex'.  And it is ok if you have sex as long as you follow government guidelines.
Follow the age appropriate guidelines.
Use the birth control provided to you
We'll teach Johnny in school how to use a condom
If you don't follow the above, the government will help you support the child
And if you fail at all of the above, we will provide an option of abortion to you.

So it is basically....do what ever you want!

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SCHENECTADY
Religious leaders bless new Planned Parenthood site
Event coincides with Roe v. Wade
BY STEVEN COOK Gazette Reporter

    The Rev. Larry Phillips of Emmanuel-Friedens Church emphasized Tuesday that he was Baptist.
    He did so, because he was speaking at the “Blessing of the Building” ceremony at Planned Parenthood’s new 1040 State St. complex. “Yes, there are Baptists among us who believe in a woman’s right to chose,” Phillips said.
    Phillips has volunteered in recent years as an escort for women seeking services at the old Union Street location.
    The new State Street building has a private parking lot, where women seeking services won’t have to walk past people protesting.
    “I can’t tell you what it means for us to be able to stand in this room today,” Phillips added later, “and to know that women and children are no longer recipients of abuse and violence by the protestors.”
    Planned Parenthood Mohawk Hudson held the blessing of the building ceremony Tuesday to coincide with the 35th anniversary of the landmark Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision that made abortion legal.
    The new 18,571-square-foot offi ce was built after nearly $2 million was raised for the project.
    The campaign was jump started by Roberta Steiner, daughter of the late Evelyn and David Sencer, who donated $300,000 with help from other members of the Sencer family in 2003. The facility is named in Evelyn and David Sencer’s honor.
    Phillips was joined at the blessing ceremony by Rabbi Matt Cutler of Temple Gates of Heaven, and Rev. Bill Levering, pastor at First Reformed Church in Schenectady.
    Cutler sounded a traditional shofar horn “as a way of starting our renewal of commitment to keep reproductive rights in the hands of women, to keep reproductive rights safe and open.”
    Levering spoke of the organization’s frequent protestors, many of whom base their protests in religion.
    Just last September, protestors camped out in front of the Union Street location for a week, carrying graphic signs, and were led by Rev. Francis McCloskey.
    Planned Parenthood chief executive officer Paul Drisgula earlier noted the project was the result of the work of many.
    “This was never about bricks and mortar,” he said, “It’s about people needing services ... and supporters who made all this possible.”

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35 years pass, but not debate
Demonstrations mark 1973 high court ruling affirming right to abortion

By CAROL DeMARE, Staff writer .
First published: Wednesday, January 23, 2008

SCHENECTADY -- To commemorate Tuesday's 35th anniversary of the Supreme Court ruling that affirmed a woman's right to an abortion, clergy blessed this city's new Planned Parenthood clinic in a ceremony dubbed "On Sacred Ground."
"Today is more than about the building and about bricks and mortar," Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Linda Scharf said. "It's a blessing to demonstrate the support of the clergy."
     
Since Jan. 22, 1973, when the high court handed down the landmark Roe vs. Wade decision, two sides of the issue have squared off. Opponents have campaigned to overturn unrestricted abortion laws, while proponents have stood firm for the right to choose.
Tuesday was no different.
Capital Region activists joined voices with their counterparts nationwide to mark the day. In Washington, as every year on the anniversary, the March for Life was held.
In Schenectady, the blessing occurred at the newly constructed 18,000-square-foot building at 1040 State St. that opened in September to replace a facility on Union Street.
"Clergy have long supported Planned Parenthood's mission and believe women are moral decision-makers, and they trust their right to make a personal decision based on their moral beliefs and whether ... we concur ... we still need to respect that decision," Scharf said.
"The clergy were instrumental in getting abortion services legalized in the United States and right here in Schenectady," she added. "I know a member of the clergy who was part of an underground who directed young women to safe abortions before Roe v. Wade."
Kathleen Gallagher of the New York State Catholic Conference called the blessing hypocritical.
"My gut reaction is that it's two-faced," Gallagher said. "For many years abortion proponents have been saying this is not a religious issue, you should keep religion out of this, and now all of a sudden they turn around and decide to bless an abortion clinic to gain respect for a procedure everybody knows is not worthy of respect."
The group also criticized Gov. Eliot Spitzer, noting that although abortions fell nationally to 1.2 million in 2005, the lowest level since 1976, Spitzer has proposed what Gallagher termed radical legislation in New York.
The governor "has acted aggressively to make abortion even more available and common than it already is, while stomping on the rights of religious providers like Catholic hospitals," Gallagher said. "His euphemistically titled 'Reproductive Health and Privacy Protection Act' would raise abortion to the level of a fundamental right, like the freedom of speech, and would therefore prohibit virtually any restrictions at all."
She warned such a bill would "ensure the easy availability of late-term abortions of fully formed infants, even if there was no threat to a woman's physical health."
In a joint statement, Spitzer, Lt. Gov. David Paterson and first lady Silda Wall Spitzer reaffirmed their "commitment that, despite attacks that seek to infringe upon the protections embodied in Roe v. Wade, women in New York will continue to have the right to make their own reproductive health decisions."
Scharf noted New York was ahead of the curve on abortion. Three years before Roe vs. Wade, under Republican Gov. Nelson A. Rockefeller, the state Legislature legalized abortion. The year was 1970, and the action brought women from throughout the country to the state.Despite the national trend of declining abortions, they increased in four local counties from 2005 to 2006 while statewide they dropped, according to the Health Department.
At Planned Parenthood Mohawk Hudson, an affiliate of Planned Parenthood Federation of America, the Rev. Larry Phillips of Schenectady's Emmanuel-Friedens Church declared the ground "sacred and holy ... where women's voices and stories are welcomed, valued and affirmed; sacred ground where women are treated with dignity, supported in their role as moral decision-makers ... sacred ground where the violent voices of hatred and oppression are quelled."
The minister has been affiliated with Planned Parenthood going back more than 30 years, Scharf said. About three dozen people gathered at the facility, known as the Evelyn & David Sencer Center, to offer prayers during the half-hour ceremony.
The Rev. Abby Norton-Levering led the group in prayers for the center's doctors and staff. "We pray that you will make this a place of safety and give a sense of sanctuary," she said.
Rabbi Matt Cutler of Temple Gates of Heaven blew the shofar as "a renewal of commitment to keep reproductive rights in the hands of women."
The Rev. Bill Levering, senior pastor of First Reformed Church of Schenectady, said the right to privacy is endowed by God.
"There are some decisions that are left to the individual. Even God respects the right of privacy. We make women into children when we say they cannot control their own bodies," Levering said.
Phillips led everyone outside where they laid their hands on the brick and limestone as the minister declared, "This is sacred ground." DeMare can be reached at 454-5431 or by e-mail at cdemare@timesunion.com. Staff writer Jimmy Vielkind contributed to this article.

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More judicial mischief

This morning, at 11:30 a.m. I have a trial in Vinton , Iowa . Donna Holman and I were cited for “Parking for the Purposes of Advertising” at a Hillary Clinton event at Vinton Elementary School .



Townspeople, teachers, and authorities were livid because our Truthvan was otherwise legally parked in a prominent location in front of the elementary school. Yet we did not set the agenda. These same people seemed comfortable enough to have a baby-killer speak inside their school while complaining about the display of abortion outside. They are pro-choice about killing babies but not pro-choice about displaying the babies they kill.

Advertising is not an illegal activity, but we were not advertising, we were communicating a social and a political message at a political event. Missionaries to the Pre-born Iowa are not a business, a commodity, or a service, we are a ministry. We are not advertising a product we are propagating a belief. The website and telephone number on our van is contact information. It also leads those interested to additional information about our message. We do not solicit for money.



A school is not exclusively a school on the day of a scheduled political event. Should the school invite Adolph Hitler to speak they should expect protestors. Not everyone agrees with baby-murder.



Two weeks ago we were cited for “Obscenity” by the Tennessee Highway Patrol as we drove back from the Hillary Holocaust Expose’ in South Carolina .

Is it not strange and hypocritical that abortion holocaust deniers fail to recognize the humanity of the children being butchered yet can find the display of them obscene?  One can find easily find porn shops up and down Tennessee ’s highways but according to our wicked baby-killing courts that is protected speech. The U.S. Supreme Court finds virtual child pornography (life like cartoons) is legal as there is no actual victim. Yet we are penalized for displaying a victim whom the courts do not recognize, a victim to whom the American People turn a blind eye, a deaf ear, and a cold shoulder.



dan holman
Missionaries to the Pre-born, Iowa
P.O. Box 135
Keokuk, Iowa 52632
(319) 524-5587
truthvan@yahoo.com

Donna Holman
Johnson County Jail
P.O. Box 2510
Iowa City, Iowa 52244-2510

To view 22 minutes of video of Donna Holman's unjust arrest see:

Part 1
http://www.dailymotion.com/antiaborticide/video/6863182

Part 2
http://www.dailymotion.com/antiaborticide/video/6863396

Part 3
http://www.dailymotion.com/antiaborticide/video/x433ya_november-1-2006-part-3_politics

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Norma Leah McCorvey (née Nelson born September 22, 1947, in Simmesport, Louisiana) is best known as "Jane Roe" in the landmark Roe v. Wade lawsuit in which a 1973 U.S. Supreme Court ruling recognized abortion as a Constitutional right, overturning individual states' laws against abortion, and who later recanted her previous support of abortion. [1]

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The most accurate of Plato's writings on Socrates is probably the The Apology. It is Plato's account of Socrates's defense at his trial in 399 BC (the word "apology" comes from the Greek word for "defense-speech" and does not mean what we would think of as an apology). It is clear, however, that Plato dressed up Socrates's speech to turn it into a justification for Socrates's life and his death. In it, Plato outlines some of Socrates's most famous philosophical ideas: the necessity of doing what one thinks is right even in the face of universal opposition, and the need to pursue knowledge even when opposed.  


    Socrates wrote nothing because he felt that knowledge was a living, interactive thing. Socrates' method of philosophical inquiry consisted in questioning people on the positions they asserted and working them through questions into a contradiction, thus proving to them that their original assertion was wrong. Socrates himself never takes a position; in The Apology he radically and skeptically claims to know nothing at all except that he knows nothing. Socrates and Plato refer to this method of questioning as elenchus , which means something like "cross-examination" The Socratic elenchus eventually gave rise to dialectic, the idea that truth needs to be pursued by modifying one's position through questioning and conflict with opposing ideas. It is this idea of the truth being pursued, rather than discovered, that characterizes Socratic thought and much of our world view today. The Western notion of dialectic is somewhat Socratic in nature in that it is conceived of as an ongoing process. Although Socrates in The Apology claims to have discovered no other truth than that he knows no truth, the Socrates of Plato's other earlier dialogues is of the opinion that truth is somehow attainable through this process of elenchus .

   The Athenians, with the exception of Plato, thought of Socrates as a Sophist, a designation he seems to have bitterly resented. He was, however, very similar in thought to the Sophists. Like the Sophists, he was unconcerned with physical or metaphysical questions; the issue of primary importance was ethics, living a good life. He appeared to be a sophist because he seems to tear down every ethical position he's confronted with; he never offers alternatives after he's torn down other people's ideas.  


Ancient Greece Glossary
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Areté  
    He doesn't seem to be a radical skeptic, though. Scholars generally believe that the Socratic paradox is actually Socratic rather than an invention of Plato. The one positive statement that Socrates seems to have made is a definition of virtue (areté): "virtue is knowledge." If one knows the good, one will always do the good. It follows, then, that anyone who does anything wrong doesn't really know what the good is. This, for Socrates, justifies tearing down people's moral positions, for if they have the wrong ideas about virtue, morality, love, or any other ethical idea, they can't be trusted to do the right thing.  

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how about shutting your legs until you are finished with school???

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Abortion clinic improper site for clerical blessing

    The blessing of the ground for the Planned Parenthood clinic in Schenectady, and dubbing it as “sacred and holy” by several of the city’s clergy, was an abomination to that community and our society.
    How can a building that serves to terminate the lives of thousands of unborn children through abortion possibly be sacred and holy? How desperate are those at this facility to resort to mixing religion and politics, when in the past they contended they should always be separate!
    Perhaps the clergy who supported this ridiculous dedication never heard of Mother Teresa of Calcutta, who stated, “It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish. Any country that accepts abortion is the poorest of the poor.”
    Or have they ever read, “I am your creator. You were in my care even before you were born.” Isaiah 44:2; and let’s not forget “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.” Jeremiah 1:5.
Each child is sent into this world by God with a unique message to deliver, a new song to sing and a personal act of love to bestow, if allowed to live.
Please hold the hand of the future and support the choice of life. I remain prowoman, pro-child and pro-life!
SYLVIA KRAVIS PHILLIPS
Clifton Park

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Story shows the Scriptures were right
First published: Monday, February 4, 2008

I must respond to the article in the Jan. 23 Times Union, "35 Years Pass, But Not Debate." I was slackjawed with amazement at what I read, and deeply disturbed that "good is called evil and evil good," as the Scriptures predicted thousands of years ago.
This bizarre story highlighted the absolute disgrace of members of the clergy actually hallowing the ground where abortions are performed daily. The photo of pastors and rabbis laying hands on a building and blessing it, calling it "sacred ground" was simply beyond belief. One minister is quoted as saying this is a place where "violent voices of hatred and oppression are quelled." The irony of that statement in the light of what truly goes on inside those walls is stunning.
     
I assume even the majority of pro-choice advocates would not rejoice over the building of another abortion clinic. I would think rather there would be sadness that one is even "needed," and there would be gladness when one is torn down because such procedures have become rare.
As for the shepherds leading flocks of people in the deception that "Even God respects the rights of privacy," I pray they will quickly repent. The Book of Hebrews says "Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account."
LORIANN SMITH Rensselaer