Then momma forgot to slap them upside the head.....but, no really, there is such thing as choice,momma or not---legs open or legs closed.....abortion is just treated like a choice in a vending machine.....we seem to refer to is as if it were an "Almond Joy", "Baby Ruth", or others
Not to mention the lack of "Mr.Goodbar" to keep it wrapped up and on top of the fridge only to be used 'after dinner'.....I'm sure 'Planned Parenthood' doesn't promote this......
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While I will not impose my own personal feelings involving the “right to life,” I am responding to the Sept. 5 letter by Mary Jones, “Planned Parenthood shouldn’t presume to dictate to hospitals.” Health care professionals are required not to pass judgment on individuals who make legal and clear choices regarding their own health care. These choices can include discontinuing life support or terminating a pregnancy. Women’s health care services are necessary for our community. We are obliged to honor and respect a woman’s legal right to choose abortion, whether we as a community or health care professionals personally or spiritually agree with it. The writer’s comment, “Women seeking abortions are dealing with far more than an end to a pregnancy; and many would not receive abortions if they were able to gain the support they needed,” is a very broad statement. Every individual case involving women’s decisions to abort is vastly different . In a perfect world, hospitals would provide free prenatal, as well as labor, delivery and neonatal services. In a perfect world, hospitals would provide free psychological and spiritual services. All of these services are categorized under the term “support,” of which the writer suggests. We do not live in this perfect world; therefore, not only is Planned Parenthood a necessary fixture in the community, so are hospitals that offer the services Mr. Drisgula speaks of [Aug. 26 viewpoint]. Even if the law were changed, women would still make the same choices to terminate their pregnancies — only they would again be seeking alleyways, not hospitals. How safe would that be? Mr. Drisgula was the voice for these women. LUCIE MCLAUD Rotterdam
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
The world seems so full of issues that are not black and white when you try to formulate an opinion. In the forum that discusses the two women who beat up the elderly woman I stated the idea that we should support grannys law. Next several posts indicated the need to establish laws that cover everyone. I thought about those posts and agreed with them. Then, I got to thinking "No our elderly are more vulnerable in a situation like that then, say, I would be at 48 years old." It is worse to prey on the elderly then someone like me. Am I wrong? Are the several posts after that indicating we should all be treated equally wrong? No, none of us are. It is just the issues to deal with these days are not clear cut. The abortion issue is clear cut to many, but then again, if a woman is raped, should she be forced to carry the child to term? Should she then be forced to raise it? Should the child be raised through the foster care system? Should the woman who uses abortion as a form of birth control be afforded the same compassion as the woman who is raped? In my younger years I was pro- choice regardless of the situation, but now.....not so much. I think it does depend on the situation. I know this sounds like a cop out, but I'm really glad I don't have to deal with these issues. I wish no one had to because there just isn't always a clear answer.
In my 29 years as a registered Conservative, I have been Pro-Life with the exception of cases in which the life of the mother is in danger. The caveat, however, renders the procedure permissible based on the evaluation of the threat to the mother's life by a physician or medical provider whose personal beliefs may support the mother's choice for any reason. This leads to issues of interpretation and legal enforcement.
The case of pregnancy that results from the rape of a woman is a particularly difficult and complex one. Many will assert since I am not a woman, that my position is unsympathetic and naive and I accept this criticism. It is my view, however, that the occurrence of the violent crime of rape does not render the taking of a viable life as acceptable. The termination of a life is murder. Two wrongs do not make a right. I would further suggest that overcoming being the victim of a rape is difficult enough without having to address the guilt and remorse that a woman may subsequently experience after she aborts the life that is growing inside.
There are alternatives to terminating a pregnancy because the child was unplanned and/or is unwanted. There are many who are unable to conceive a child who are interested in adoption and who would provide a fine home for a child. Many companies provide to their employees adoption benefits.
In my assessment, the practice of abortion has become a form of birth control for some who are irresponsible in ensuring that they take the necessary precautions (i.e., birth control) so as not to become pregnant. The public funding of abortions using public tax dollars is bad policy. Partial birth abortion is unconscionable.
This is not a positive choice for either man or woman.....a 'liberated woman' needs to learn when the choice of 'the pill' is only 98% effective, or that the condom can have holes, or the alcohol/drugs make her a 'less liberated' woman......as for the penis involved,,,responsibility, responsibility responsibility......
bottom line----animals/hormones
what is the % of abortions for rape/incest??
As a liberated woman, can you claim rape if you are inebriated? Does the man carry more responsibility?
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
This is not a positive choice for either man or woman.....a 'liberated woman' needs to learn when the choice of 'the pill' is only 98% effective, or that the condom can have holes, or the alcohol/drugs make her a 'less liberated' woman......as for the penis involved,,,responsibility, responsibility responsibility......
bottom line----animals/hormones
what is the % of abortions for rape/incest??
As a liberated woman, can you claim rape if you are inebriated? Does the man carry more responsibility?
Well, I guess if abortion were NOT legal, we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
In the case of a violent rape the morning after pill may be a good avenue to pursue. I'm apposed to any partial birth abortions, when a baby is that developed only adoption should be considered if the mother doesn't want the child. As far as the 1st trimester abortions goes, they're legal and it's the woman's choice of what to do.
abortion is a 'little surgery'....so again I will ask.....what happens to the 'penis'.....shame on all those liberated women not to enforce the value of keeping it locked up.....then again if advertisers can sell s#@$ on a stick, and they are human, then anything goes.....just ask Mr. Heffner and Mr. Flint......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Maureen Callahan references the words of Mother Teresa in her Sept. 11 letter concerning display of abortion pictures. As [author and atheist] Christopher Hitchens and others have eloquently pointed out, one wonders how many fewer abortions there would have been, had Mother Teresa and others not spent a lifetime fighting against birth control. Inevitably, attempting to impose arbitrary and irrational “morality” causes unnecessary suffering. TOM KELLER Clifton Park
Abortion foes should aid disadvantaged moms First published: Monday, September 17, 2007
I just finished reading the Sept. 6 article "Upset mom protests anti-abortion rally" a minute ago, and with great interest. I just have a few things to say, questions, rather, that I have always wondered about with regard to abortion opponents.
The first is why are they so hell-bent on trying to control other people? Are they so insecure about themselves that they need to live vicariously through the actions of others? Abortion can actually save lives; this paper reported recently that the number of deaths while giving birth has increased recently.
Is it then OK for the mother to die so long as the infant is born? That sounds like deliberate murder to me. What, then, about the child's life growing up without a mother? Should their possible future feelings be ignored in order to maintain a personal vendetta?
The second main question that I have long wondered about is the abortion opponents' responsibility to the children being "saved" from abortion. Since they are responsible for that child's birth, why are they not financially responsible as the parent is? Is the birth of the child worth their life growing up with a mother who was 16 at the time of birth, does not know who the father is, cannot provide for their child, etc.? These abortion opponents never address this issue.
Once I see abortion opponents and church groups begin to provide some form of aid to disadvantaged mothers, then, even though I disagree with their stance, will I begin to take them seriously.
Is it then OK for the mother to die so long as the infant is born? That sounds like deliberate murder to me. What, then, about the child's life growing up without a mother? Should their possible future feelings be ignored in order to maintain a personal vendetta?
Again, the woman takes all the responsibility....abortion is a 'little surgery'(invasive to the woman) and the child growing up without a mother lowers the fathers' responsibility/importance.....
So what happens to the 'penis'????????
Where are the 'Libbers' on this???? It's the only better choice???? The men are hard to catch????
Men have turned women into killing machines......this is what being ignorant will produce.....paradox
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Women allow men to turn themselves into killing machines, I think.
Now, isn't this what Women's Lib was supposed to be fighting against, that Men can't make Women do anything? That they're equals? Then how is it Men's Fault? If the Woman gets the priveledge, where does she start taking responsibility?
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