Immigrants don’t ‘make it all’ work, they take work
Jill Bryce and Sara Foss’s Aug. 3 article, “Immigrants make it all work,” falsely alleges that there is a shortage of scientists. As a consequence of employers’ preference for “fresh (inexpensive and imported) young blood,” I have not worked a day in the field that I trained in at SUNY Buffalo: radiation biophysics! I earned my degree in 1984. I’m very dismayed with the one-sided reporting in the article. There was a complete lack of content from U.S. citizen workers who have been harmed by this tidal wave of immigration. You may learn more about it by reading my recent investigative article, “The Greedy Gates Immigration Gambit.” http://www.thesocialcontract.com/pdf/ eighteen-one/tsc_18_1_nelson.pdf As Daily Gazette readers note shuttered business sites in Schenectady, you are seeing one of the dark sides of excess immigration and off-shoring of good U.S. jobs. GENE A. NELSON, PH.D. Arlington, Va.
They dont take work from nursing----there is still a giant shortage??? Where are all those welling meaning educated American citizens??? No excuses either---like, 'it takes a special person to do that kind of work'.......
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Well, to quote one guy, "We do the JOBS you GUYS don't wanna do." (capitalization from his remarks, not my own stress). And, besides that, they would have to be here legally to go to a college to get a degree to be able to take those jobs from you.
They just want to do the stuff they can do right away, not things that they have to work at to take it away from someone else.
The Daily Gazette has brought up some very interesting and detailed facts on the local sanctuaries harboring illegal aliens (Aug. 4 Gazette]. To have a three-day series on this subject that affects all Americans has to be mindboggling and quite a bit of exhaustive research conducted. Will the Gazette now use the same effort to tell the other side of the story of illegals draining our social services, taking away our jobs when unemployment is creeping up on us, filling our jails to the bursting point? Just a halfpage will explain why the illegals, 20 million or more, should be entitled to these services. When people say I must be anti-immigrant, that is far from the truth, being that my parents were legal immigrants. Just remember, legal immigrants can fi ll those jobs that illegals are stealing from the American people. How about having the integrity and honesty to tell both sides of the story? BRENDAN J. BROWN Schenectady
Will the Gazette now use the same effort to tell the other side of the story of illegals draining our social services, taking away our jobs when unemployment is creeping up on us, filling our jails to the bursting point?
Of course not! Then Suzie Savage and gang would not have all of these taxpaid government programs or positions to 'create'.
'Keep 'em down'.....that is their motto!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Regarding its Aug. 3-5 series on immigration, the Daily Gazette has shown its colors celebrating illegal immigration and how to get sanctuary status. The law of the land has immigration laws and separation of church and state. The younger generation has no sense of history regarding who made this country great, and that it’s a privilege to be a citizen. They should visit a military cemetery to see who paid the price for freedom. Walking over the border does not make you an American. I challenge these reporters to investigate the downside of illegals, who do not assimilate and refuse to obey our laws. The police blotter published by the paper is a good source of identifying illegals violating the law. Next, inquire at the hospitals as to what it costs the community to pick up the cost of the uninsured. The taxpayer is bearing the cost of ESL [English as a Second Language], trying to educate illiterate aliens. Can this be justified with higher property taxes? Tax-exempt churches should stay out of challenging our immigration laws. Separation of church and state is still the law of the land. ISABELLE E. PAIGE Schenectady
This teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet. It should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent
From a California school teacher - - -
'As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socio-economic and income levels.
Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. ( OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK )
I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them 'Putas' whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.
Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements ?
To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, over-crowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it . Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about ' political correctness' that we don't have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil, forward this to everyone you know.
CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage and consumers don't want expensive produce.
Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.
But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase 'cheap labor' is a myth , a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as 'cheap labor.'
Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for$5.00 or 6.00 per hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an 'earned income credit' of up to $3,200 free.
He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense .
He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.
Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.
The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.
Cheap labor? Wake up people!
THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'
THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.'
...and Barack Obama says we should learn to speak Spanish? WHY?
Union complained about immigrants at raided factory BY HOLBROOK MOHR The Associated Press
LAUREL, Miss. — Union bosses in this region of rural Mississippi have long grumbled that the largest factories here hire illegal immigrants, and that the immigrants were starting to get more overtime and supervisory positions. Friction between the union and immigrant workers, along with a tipoff at an electrical manufacturing plant, boiled over this week into the biggest workplace immigration raid in the nation’s history. When the first of the 595 suspected illegal immigrants was taken into custody Monday, some fellow workers broke into applause. A spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said the investigation started three years ago after agents received a tip from a union member. In interviews with The Associated Press, both union members and immigrants spoke of a simmering tension. At least one immigrant said scare tactics were used to pressure people to join the union. Union members said they resented immigrants, who were often allowed to work as much as 40 hours of overtime a week when other workers were discouraged from doing so. All declined to give their names, saying they feared for their jobs. Howard Industries, which makes dozens of products from electrical transformers to medical supplies, is in Mississippi’s Pine Belt region, an area known for commercial timber and chicken-processing plants. Robert Shaffer, head of the Mississippi AFL-CIO, said Wednesday that members have long complained that companies in southern Mississippi hire illegal immigrants. “Jackson, Hattiesburg, Laurel and all areas along the coast, it’s a little Mexico,” Shaffer said. “I’m not against people trying to make a living. I have a compassion for those folks. But at the same time, the taxpayers of Mississippi shouldn’t be subsidizing a plant that won’t even hire their own workers.” In 2002, Mississippi lawmakers approved a $31.5 million, taxpayerbacked incentive plan for Howard Industries to expand. The company, with 4,000 workers, is the largest employer in Jones County, which includes Laurel. About 2,600 of Howard Industries’ workers are in the union. Shaffer said he did not know whether any of those picked up in the raid were union members, or if nonunion workers were offered overtime while union workers were not. Shaffer said offering immigrant workers union membership would depend on the situation, but he doubted it could be done if immigrants were in the country illegally. Those detained in the raid came from Brazil, El Salvador, Germany, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Panama and Peru. Contacted Wednesday, Howard Industries referred reporters to the statement it issued Monday, which said the company “runs every check allowed to ascertain the immigration status of all applicants for its jobs. It is company policy that it hires only U.S. citizens and legal immigrants.” No executives were detained in Monday’s raid, but a spokeswoman said the raid was just the first part of an ongoing investigation. A 30-year-old immigrant from Mexico who has worked at the transformer plant for three years said union representatives pressured immigrants to join the union, sometimes visiting their homes, offering gifts such as shirts and indicating that if they joined the union they would make more money. The immigrant, who was not caught in the raid because he works the night shift, spoke on the condition that he be identified only by his first name, Jose, because he was concerned about being detained. “The union uses the tactic of saying immigration was coming and the members of the union would not be taken,” he said through a translator. Jose said he did not join the union because he wasn’t convinced it would come to his side if he were detained, and he felt his dues would not be returned. At least eight of the workers caught in the raid face criminal charges for allegedly using false Social Security and residency identification. On Wednesday, hundreds of people lined up outside the plant to apply for jobs as news of the raid spread. A billboard had gone up last week, before the raid, saying the company was hiring. “I need a job and got kids. I heard that they need some help now,” said Willie Keys, 20, who applied Wednesday. “All them Mexicans got fired because they didn’t have a pass ... All these businesses have been taking Americans’ jobs.” The unemployment rate in Jones County was 6.5 percent in July, slightly higher than the national rate of 6 percent but below the state’s 8.5 percent rate. William Gunther, an economics professor at the University of Southern Mississippi, said Mississippi has a labor shortage because people aren’t moving there, which could explain why companies might hire illegal immigrants. “That leaves businesses with a serious problem,” he said. “That doesn’t justify, but it certainly explains why they might be hiring individuals who show up and say, ’I’ll work for you.’” He said businesses could face higher wage costs and consumers could face higher costs for products and services if immigrants are taken out of the economy. Ruben Castro, who owns La Fiesta Brava Mexican restaurant, is already seeing the effects. He had to bring in workers from a store in another town because he was so busy after the raid, when fi ve other Mexican restaurants in Laurel closed because employees were afraid to come to work. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Danielle Martinez, 24, of Laurel, Miss., complains Wednesday about the unfairness of the immigration raid at the Howard Industries plant in Laurel. Martinez was assisting some immigrant families in removing their vehicles from the employee parking lot before they were towed.
Hot Air TV@DNC: Reconquista lives posted at 12:41 pm on August 31, 2008 by Michelle
Hot Air TV special correspondent Jason Mattera dons his undercover costume to bring you one last, unhinged hurrah from Denver and the DNC. You won’t believe what he heard at the illegal alien Aztlan march downtown (don’t miss the breeding comments, the California conquerors, the Commie who won’t give away her hat, and the students from P.S. 1 in Denver who were required to attend the rally for class). When your open-borders friends tell you there is no such thing as reconquista and that you are the inveterate racists, just point them to this video. Seven words, amigos: People for the Elimination of White People. Thanks to Jason and the cutting-edge crew at the People’s Press Collective (especially Wesley Dickinson, Rossputin, Justin, Joe, Drunkablog, and Michael Sandoval) for bringing us the DNC coverage other Americans wouldn’t bring you. Now, go get a shave, shower, and rest, Jason. You deserve it!
IMPORTANT DATE... "Say NO to the North American Union" Phone-In to politicos in Washington D.C. September 16! On that date, citizens of the United States and Canada are encouraged to call members of the U.S. Congress and the Canadian Parliament to voice opposition to ANY creation of a North American Union. The purpose is to flood these centers of the “people’s representatives” with phone calls to literally shut down their switchboards. The Trans Texas Corridor is a transnational trade corridor to facilitate the deep economic integration of Mexico, the United States, and Canada through trade agreements like NAFTA. For more info, watch Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur explain here:
To find your members of Congress go here: http://www.fyi.legis.state.tx.us/ (or there's a link on this site, if someone can find it...)
And my immediate reply...
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Remember, you can also just call the Capital Switchboard and ask for your Representatives. The phone number there is 202-224-3121. Interesting date that they're doing this on. Did you realize what date this is? September 16th is Mexico's Independence Day, with their Declaration of Independence being signed the day before (September 15th). The U.S. Constitution was also signed during September (September 17, 1787). For some reason, the U.S. Constitution doesn't make it on my calendar (made by MeadWestvaco Consumer & Office Products, Sidney, NY 13838, http://www.ataglance.com, orders (or maybe concerns)can go to Calendars, P.O. Box 400, Sidney, NY 13838, or call 1-800-365-9327.
Maybe I'll go and find a postcard with Uncle Sam on it and mail it to ask them to correct these issues.
Want to know how much immigration is affecting us now? I'm sitting here, looking over this site and watching Baseball Tonight on ESPN. They just had statistics up. First, this statistic is brought to you by Hugo Chavez' Citgo. The stats that it's sponsoring???
HISPANIC HERITAGE PROFILE...
MOST HR, PLAYERS BORN IN LATIN NATIONS
Sammy Sosa - 609 Rafael Palmiero - 569 Manny Ramirez - 524 Carlos Delgado - 466 Jose Canseco - 462
Poor US economy forcing illegals to return home Elliot Spagat - Associated Press Writer - 10/24/2008 2:30:00 PM
SAN DIEGO - After struggling just to pay his $300 monthly rent and send money to his wife and two children back in Honduras, Dionisio Urbina has given up. The day laborer is saving for a one-way plane ticket home.
"I lost hope about finding work," the 54-year-old illegal immigrant said outside a Home Depot store as he entered his fourth straight week without a job. "I'm homesick. It's best to leave."
Thousands of Latin American immigrants both legal and illegal are going back home as the economic crisis in the U.S. causes jobs to dry up in the construction, landscaping and restaurant industries.
The flow of immigrants back across the border tends to be cyclical, with many people going back home for the Christmas holidays. But some authorities say they are seeing a bigger-than-usual reverse-immigration effect this year.
Mexico City's municipal government predicts between 20,000 and 30,000 immigrants above the usual number will return from the U.S. in the next few months because they cannot find work.
Mexican consulates in California and Chicago report that around 4,000 more Mexican immigrants than usual have already left for Mexico City because of the economic crisis.
There are other signs the U.S. is no longer the magnet it was a few years ago, when the economy was thriving and the housing boom produced plenty of work:
- Fewer immigrants are getting caught crossing U.S. borders illegally. The Border Patrol said it made 723,825 apprehensions in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, down 18 percent from last year and down 39 percent from nearly 1.2 million in 2005.
- Immigrants are sending less money home. Remittances by Mexicans living in the United States registered their biggest drop in August since record-keeping began 12 years ago. Mexico's central bank said they fell 12 percent from August 2007.
With an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., the number returning home is relatively small.
The vast majority of Mexican immigrants who have lived in the U.S. a few years will stay put because the job prospects are far worse back home and they have family in this country, said Wayne Cornelius, director of the University of California, San Diego's Center for Comparative Immigration Studies.
"They would be condemning themselves to a lower standard of living," Cornelius said.
Karina Corona, who came to the U.S. on a fake passport in 1995, is struggling to make ends meet but said she won't go home to Culiacan, Mexico, because there is no work there and her hometown is a hotbed of drug violence.
The single mother had to quit a second job as a seamstress to care for her children, leaving her to live on about $1,500 a month as a delicatessen cashier. She stopped taking graphic design classes at a San Diego community college and fell behind on rent.
But Mexico "would be even worse than here," said Corona, 34. "We're going to stick it out."
At a day laborer site in Laguna Beach, south of Los Angeles, Juan Pacheco, 48, said he planned to return to Oaxaca, Mexico, in January, about two years after he came north to work construction. On an earlier stint in the U.S., he sent home $200 a week to his wife and children and bought a house in Mexico, where his family grows corn and beans.
Pacheco has worked only one or two days a week in the past year, barely enough for food and the $200 monthly rent. His voice cracks when he talks about phone calls to his 5-year-old daughter.
"She says she doesn't remember me, that she wants me to go home so she can meet me," he said.
Ramon Lopez has lived north of the border for 36 years, working in hotels and restaurants. But he recently returned to Mexico with his wife and mother-in-law because he could not find work or pay his bills.
"I had my lows, I had my highs, but ultimately, things have become critical," he said in Tijuana. "There's too much pressure for the rent, for food, for transportation."
Associated Press writers Maria Gallucci in Mexico City and Amy Taxin in Laguna Beach contributed to this report.
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