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Not to mention during the Reagan era 'institutions' came tumbling down.......and until the society/judges/legislators at the highest levels decide what is just or even what the plumb lines are....we better keep those thigh high muckin' boots on and a shotgun handy.....


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We live in a nation of laws and punishments for each individual offense. However, plea bargins and back room deals, that are made all the time, seem to take the punch out of the punishment, so to say. Until we uphold the law and uphold the appropriate punishment, sex offenders as well as drug dealers, rapists, theives and murders will be allowed to re-enter society perhaps before they have not only fullfilled their 'time' but also perhaps before they have been rehabilitated (if that is possible).

And let me say again, that when ANY incarcerated individual is released from prison, by law, they are allowed to re-enter society and live a full FREE life. I believe that it is truly unconstitutional to place additional restrictions on any criminal/offender when they are released into society. If a person being released from prison is STILL considered a threat to society...then OBVIOUSLY, there needs to be a longer prison sentence. The laws clearly need to be re-examined, re-thought and perhaps re-written.


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http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2007/09/09/sunday-papers-question-sex-offender-laws/
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Registered sex offenders by county as of Sept. 4, the latest update. These six counties have enacted laws restricting where convicted sex offenders may live.

ALBANY COUNTY

Level 1 — 149
Level 2 — 115
Level 3 — 74
P category — 8*
Total — 346

RENSSELAER COUNTY

Level 1 — 91
Level 2 — 80
Level 3 — 62
P category — 9*
Total — 242

SARATOGA COUNTY

Level 1 — 113
Level 2 — 98
Level 3 — 32
P category — 3*
Total — 246

SCHENECTADY COUNTY

Level 1 — 64
Level 2 — 88
Level 3 — 49
P category — 2*
Total — 203

WARREN COUNTY

Level 1 — 49
Level 2 — 72
Level 3 — 38
P category — 2*
Total — 161

WASHINGTON COUNTY

Level 1 — 68
Level 2 — 64
Level 3 — 33
P category — 2*
Total — 167

*P category pertains to offenders who have registered, but their levels have yet to be determined by the courts. State total: 25,570

Source: State Division of Criminal Justice Services as of Sept. 4.

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If they have a record they obviously wont be able to get a certified/registered/license job (at least in NYS), ie:teacher, daycare, nurse aide etc......as for being out in the general public and parents watching their kids-----anyone watch animal planet?----yup, they watch/protect their 'kids;' to the best of their ability,,,is it perfect? nope.....but, they go about life and the earth is still populated......we reap what we sow......we dont even know what a sex offender is??---sodomy used to be illegal....and 'planned parenthood' is a force---go figure.....

SHAME ON THE POLITICIANS AND SHAME ON THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND SHAME ON US........


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I would like a facility where they can live and go to work and a have a life but away from a residential area.


Ms. Benedict's statement raises the obvious question ... what does she define to be "away from a residential area"?  Is this another suggestion that the convicted sex offenders should be sent to live in rural areas where there is inadequate police presence and social services required for these predators?  Sounds as though Ms. Benedict is arguing for a NIMBY solution.  I do agree, however, that a statewide solution to the issue of sex offenders is required.

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We live in a nation of laws and punishments for each individual offense. However, plea bargins and back room deals, that are made all the time, seem to take the punch out of the punishment, so to say. Until we uphold the law and uphold the appropriate punishment, sex offenders as well as drug dealers, rapists, theives and murders will be allowed to re-enter society perhaps before they have not only fullfilled their 'time' but also perhaps before they have been rehabilitated (if that is possible).

And let me say again, that when ANY incarcerated individual is released from prison, by law, they are allowed to re-enter society and live a full FREE life. I believe that it is truly unconstitutional to place additional restrictions on any criminal/offender when they are released into society. If a person being released from prison is STILL considered a threat to society...then OBVIOUSLY, there needs to be a longer prison sentence. The laws clearly need to be re-examined, re-thought and perhaps re-written.


Bumble, I agree with everything that you asserted in your posting.  The first step is to toughen sentencing.  There should be no plea bargaining or early release available for this or other violent crimes.  A repeat offender should NEVER be freed from incarceration/imprisonment to reoffend.  You are also correct that once an individual has paid for his/her crime, he/she should not be further punished, for the same crime, beyond the sentence that was ordered.
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Now we just have to get our law makers to do the right thing and re-write the laws and punishment according to the crime and uphold it to the fullest! And placing a 1000' or 2000' restriction is clearly not the answer here.


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Today, Human Rights Watch released a 148-page Report on sex offender laws in the United States, “No Easy Answers: Sex Offender Laws in the US” (Sept. 12, 2007).  You can see a summary at my weblog - http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/ethicalesq/2007/09/12/sex-offender-study-released-by-human-rights-watch/ ,  and gets links to the Report (which can be downloaded for free, or read in sections from the site) at the HRW site, http://hrw.org/reports/2007/us0907/ .

The Report concludes that all residency restriction laws should be rescinded. Here's what the Summary said about Residency Restrictions:

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    Residency Restrictions

    Among laws targeting sex offenders living in the community, residency restrictions may be the harshest as well as the most arbitrary. The laws can banish registrants from their already established homes, keep them from living with their families, and make entire towns off-limits to them, forcing them to live in isolated rural areas. For example, former sex offenders in Miami, Florida have been living under bridges, one of the few areas not restricted for them by the residency restriction laws of that city.

    There is no evidence that prohibiting sex offenders from living near where children gather will protect children from sexual violence. Indeed, the limited research to date suggests the contrary: a child molester who does offend again is as likely to victimize a child found far from his home as he is one who lives or plays nearby. A study by the Minnesota Department of Corrections found that individuals who committed another sex crime against a child made contact with their victim through a social relationship.

    Moreover, the laws apply to all registered sex offenders regardless of whether their prior crimes involved children. It is hard to fathom what good comes from prohibiting a registered offender whose victim was an adult woman from living near a school bus stop. Stories of the senseless impact of residency restrictions are legion. For example, Georgia’s residency restriction law has forced a 26-year-old married woman to move from her home because it is too close to a daycare center. She is registered as a sex offender because she had oral sex with a 15-year-old when she was 17.

    Some lawmakers admit to another purpose for residency restriction laws. Georgia State House Majority Leader Jerry Keen, who sponsored the state’s law banning registrants from living within 1,000 feet of places where children gather, stated during a floor debate, “My intent personally is to make [residency restrictions] so onerous on those that are convicted of [sex] offenses … they will want to move to another state.”5 Yet people who have committed sex offenses must live somewhere. For those who do pose a threat to public safety, they should be able to reside in communities where they can receive the supervision and treatment they need, rather than be forced to move to isolated rural areas or become homeless.
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See, rediculous......we need just punishment for the crime.....society doesn't think sex needs a line of delination and when it does, the laws are spotty at best.....

remember,, sodomy was illegal at one time....and some states still have sodomy as illegal(toe tapping anyone?),,,,and what about the adult (this is tongue in cheek) bookstores/movies etc all over anywhere.....it used to be okay for a 13 year old girl to be betrothed to a 30year old man---as long as she was'provided for'.....how far have we really gotten??? NO WHERE.....

just received a notice about a 'new offender' in the Mohon district.....oh boy....where are the tar and feathers??? I say tatoo on the forehead.....


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I did look them up.....there are 8-level 2,,,,and 6-level 3........I suppose I know where they live, they are not family, I will not be dinning with them.....do I feel safer....NO #$%$%# WAY......STUPID LAWS......put up the jails.........geez.......we dont really want to call them out do we.....then we must measure ourselves----both cigar and toe tapping alike....... >


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I did go back and look at zip code 12306 there were a total of 7 (caught/convicted offenders)

level 2 had 6
level 3 had 1

anyone feel safer knowing where?....yeah, I didn't think so.....

MR.SPITZER
MR.BRUNO
MR.SILVER

HEEEELLLLLOOOOO!!!!!


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Perhaps the summary that Mr.Giacalone posted should be copied and pasted in an email and sent off to our county legislatures. Or perhaps we should make copies of them, take them to the next county meeting, read it aloud and pass them out to our county legislatures. Or perhaps we should just email them Mr. Giacalone's informational Weblog so they can read it for themselves.

And this is what I mean about segregating our society where crimes and punishments are determined by age, race, sex, religious affiliation, political affiliation and the like. It is plain and simple here folks....if they are still considered a threat to society, then they clearly belong in prison for a longer period of time, or perhaps even for life.

Why don't they let Charles Manson out of prison everytime he is up for parol? Beeecccaaauuussseee he is still a threat to society!!!!  So if he were let out, would he be considered a level 1,2 or 3 murderer? And would a letter of notification be sent out to everyone in the community which he choose to reside in? If they deem it necessary to tell me where the sex offenders live than perhaps they should be telling me about every criminal that is released from prison.

And if we all received a letter telling us where those two girls that beat up the elderly woman lived, would this crime have still happened? OF COURSE IT WOULD HAVE!

AND OUR ARROGANT DYSFUNCTIONAL DICTATORSHIP OF A COUNTY LEGISLATURE HAS GOT TO GO!!!


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SCHENECTADY
Man charged with sex abuse of child under new law Measure strengthens assault penalties

BY STEVEN COOK Gazette Reporter
Reach Gazette reporter Steven Cook at 395-3122 or scook@dailygazette.net.

   A city man charged this week with sexually abusing a 6-year-old child faces up to life in prison if convicted under a new law, authorities said.
   Jose A. Cabrera, 33, of Yates Village, was charged with one count of predatory sexual assault against a child.
   He is the first person charged in Schenectady County under the law, which was enacted last year, prosecutor Andra Ackerman said.
   Cabrera is accused of having sexual contact with the child early on Sept. 8, according to papers fi led in court. He also faces charges of first-degree criminal sexual act, first-degree sexual abuse and endangering the welfare of a child.
   The charges were elevated under the new predatory sexual assault law due to the age of the child, Ackerman said. The statute can be invoked if the victim is younger than 13.
   The statute provides a new tool for prosecutors, Ackerman said.
   Previously, the most suspects could face was 25 years in state prison. The new law carries a maximum of 25 years to life.
   “This criminal charge provides us with much more leverage in protecting children,” Ackerman said. “These defendants know that if they’re convicted after trial, they could face life in prison.”
   Papers filed in court indicate that Cabrera was charged based on statements from a witness and from Cabrera that identified him as committing the crime.
   Ackerman confirmed that Cabrera is not on the state’s sex offender registry.
   But records show that he has been charged with injuring a child before. Cabrera was charged in 2006 with assault and endangering the welfare of a child. He was accused of grabbing his girlfriend’s 15-month-old son by the wrists, breaking his left arm, according to papers filed then. That case is pending, officials said.
   Cabrera remains at the Schenectady County Jail without bail.  



  
  
  
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But records show that he has been charged with injuring a child before. Cabrera was charged in 2006 with assault and endangering the welfare of a child. He was accused of grabbing his girlfriend’s 15-month-old son by the wrists, breaking his left arm, according to papers filed then. That case is pending, officials said.

Okay so here ya have it folks. This Cabrera guy breaks a 15month old kids arm in 2006. And he is out walking the streets FOR OVER 1 YEAR!!  They say that the 'case is till pending'. And what the hell does that mean? So now this guy has sexually 'offended' (don't ya just love that word?), someone under the age of 13 and they decide to throw his a** in jail.

So this just goes to prove that the 15month old kid didn't really have as much worth as the 6 year old sexually 'offended' kid. This Cabrera will get 25 yrs to life for the sexual 'offense', but the case is still pending for the 15 month old from a year ago. I thought we were protecting the most vulnerable in society. So now the law has to decide which one of the vulnerables that have been a victim is worth more prison time.

I detest not just sexual crimes but ANY crime against children. They are truly the scum of the earth. But let's not blow this 'sex offender' issue so far out of the water that we lose sight of all the other crimes against children. This guy shouldn't have been walking the streets from his first crime against the 15 month old.

This nonsense has got to stop! Some of our laws and judicial systems are clearly in need of an overhaul!


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Keep up the fight vs. sex offender law

   Re the Glenville Town Board’s September meeting, my concern is with the changes to the “sex offender law” passed by the county Legislature Aug. 23.
   While I protested against this law at the Legislature’s Aug. 22 meeting, I can no longer enter a legal protest because I am not someone who has received a legal notice to move. However, I can advise anyone who receives such a notice that they do have a right to enter a legal protest, and if they have a lawyer who is a member of the ACLU, the ACLU can also file a lawsuit on behalf of the person.
   I have been informed that such a lawsuit will take at least a year or more before it is settled, which will be after the next election. Current officials who voted for this law may not be re-elected, and the law may be changed again.
   I would also call your attention to the excellent op-ed column of Sept. 2, “Due process is the victim now,” by Edwin D. Reilly Jr. In the same section that day was a column by Gazette Managing Editor Tom Woodman, “Sex offender law residency issue tiresome, debate necessary.”
   I recommend both of these commentaries for your immediate attention. And since this new mandate also applies to the Scotia Village Board, I also advise it of my objection.
   REV. WILLIAM L. GRAY
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Man possessed child porn, state police charge
   CLIFTON PARK — Karl K. Westphal, 31, 62 Appletree Lane, has been charged with one count of possessing an obscene sexual performance by a child, a class E felony, punishable by one to four years in jail.
   Westphal, who
was arrested by
state police in Clifton Park Wednesday, allegedly possessed videos and photographs on his personal computer that depicted children under the age of 16 engaged in sexual activities, police said.
   Authorities said they were alerted to Westphal’s alleged activities when an unidentified person became aware that the pornography was on his computer,
   Westphal, who is divorced and works at General Electric in Schenectady, was released on an appearance ticket and scheduled to be arraigned on the charge at 4 p.m. Sept. 20 in Clifton Park Town Court.
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