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That's right, let's keep living in the past instead of learning from the past and applying what we've learned to the present...hard for you to do!


Learning from the past?  In a society where the legal system works, the people that lied and there were damages caused by the lies, they would be prosecuted.  Americans actually worship their aristocratic liars.

If I sold you something based on that lie, I would be prosecuted and punished for scamming you.  If the President scams America into a war killing tens of thousan based on a lies, or he convinces you to support a policy by telling you that you can keep your doctor, knowing that's a lie, people should demand justice.

If the people dont demand consequences for lying, then the lying will continue.  




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If the people dont demand consequences for lying, then the lying will continue.  

BINGO...so you learned something from the past...now play it forward!  
The past is history and there is no going back...we need to move forward!  


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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BINGO...so you learned something from the past...now play it forward!  
The past is history and there is no going back...we need to move forward!  


The lies of the past have caused damages to people in the present.  The people who lied in the past and caused the damages are still walking freely in the present.  

I dont buy into excusing the liars of the past and not facing the consequences for the damages they caused presently.

What I've learned from the past is that Americans have no expectation of consequences for being lied to on a grand scale.


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General MICHAEL FLYNN RESIGNS
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Gallup poll: Trump approval rating at new low.
~40% approve of President Trump
~55% disapprove. The negative 15-point spread is the highest recorded in the poll since the election.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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well well well boxy....we see you haven't yet learned that POLLS DON'T MATTER!!!
Remember Killary?
**sorry...i couldn't resist** ROL


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Gallup poll: Trump approval rating at new low.
~40% approve of President Trump
~55% disapprove. The negative 15-point spread is the highest recorded in the poll since the election.




When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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and this is why the SMART, INFORMED people DO NOT VOTE!!
this is NOT a democracy AND it is a rigged system folks!!!
Like/support Trump or not.........EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN SHOULD BE SICKENED BY THIS CORRUPT SYSTEM WE LIVE 'UNDER'!!!!!!!


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"It's Over Folks" The Neocons & The "Deep State" Have Neutered The Trump Presidency

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by Tyler Durden
Feb 14, 2017 9:25 PM
Submitted and Authored by The Saker,


Less than a month ago I warned that a ‘color revolution ‘ was taking place in the USA.  My first element of proof was the so-called “investigation” which the CIA, FBI, NSA and others were conducting against President Trump’s candidate to become National Security Advisor, General Flynn.  Last night, the plot to get rid of Flynn has finally succeeded and General Flynn had to offer his resignation.  Trump accepted it.

Now let’s immediately get one thing out of the way: Flynn was hardly a saint or a perfect wise man who would single handedly saved the world.  That he was not.  However, what Flynn was is the cornerstone of Trump’s national security policy.  For one thing, Flynn dared the unthinkable: he dared to declare that the bloated US intelligence community had to be reformed.  Flynn also tried to subordinate the CIA and the Joint Chiefs to the President via the National Security Council.  Put differently, Flynn tried to wrestle the ultimate power and authority from the CIA and the Pentagon and subordinate them back to the White House.  Flynn also wanted to work with Russia. Not because he was a Russia lover, the notion of a Director of the DIA as a Putin-fan is ridiculous, but Flynn was rational, he understood that Russia was no threat to the USA or to Europe and that Russia had the West had common interests.  That is another absolutely unforgivable crimethink in Washington DC.

The Neocon run ‘deep state’ has now forced Flynn to resign under the idiotic pretext that he had a telephone conversation, on an open, insecure and clearly monitored, line with the Russian ambassador.

And Trump accepted this resignation.


Ever since Trump made it to the White House, he has taken blow after blow from the Neocon-run Ziomedia, from Congress, from all the Hollywood doubleplusgoodthinking “stars” and even from European politicians.  And Trump took each blow without ever fighting back.  Nowhere was his famous “you are fired!” to be seen.  But I still had hope.  I wanted to hope.  I felt that it was my duty to hope.

But now Trump has betrayed us all.

Remember how Obama showed his true face when he hypocritically denounced his friend and pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.?  Today, Trump has shown us his true face.  Instead of refusing Flynn’s resignation and instead of firing those who dared cook up these ridiculous accusations against Flynn, Trump accepted the resignation.  This is not only an act of abject cowardice, it is also an amazingly stupid and self-defeating betrayal because now Trump will be alone, completely alone, facing the likes of Mattis and Pence – hard Cold Warrior types, ideological to the core, folks who want war and simply don’t care about reality.

Again, Flynn was not my hero.  But he was, by all accounts, Trump’s hero.  And Trump betrayed him.

The consequences of this will be immense.  For one thing, Trump is now clearly broken. It took the ‘deep state’ only weeks to castrate Trump and to make him bow to the powers that be. Those who would have stood behind Trump will now feel that he will not stand behind them and they will all move back away from him.  The Neocons will feel elated by the elimination of their worst enemy and emboldened by this victory they will push on, doubling-down over and over and over again.

It’s over, folks, the deep state has won.

From now on, Trump will become the proverbial shabbos-goy, the errand boy of the Israel lobby.  Hassan Nasrallah was right when he called him ‘an idiot‘.

The Chinese and Iranian will openly laugh.  The Russians won’t – they will be polite, they will smile, and try to see if some common sense policies can still be salvaged from this disaster.  Some might. But any dream of a partnership between Russia and the United States has died tonight.

The EU leaders will, of course, celebrate.  Trump was nowhere the scary bogeyman they feared.  Turns out that he is a doormat – very good for the EU.

Where does all this leave us – the millions of anonymous ‘deplorables’ who try as best we can to resist imperialism, war, violence and injustice?

I think that we were right in our hopes because that is all we had – hopes.  No expectations, just hopes.  But now we objectively have very little reasons left to hope.  For one thing, the Washington ‘swamp’ will not be drained.  If anything, the swamp has triumphed.  We can only find some degree of solace in two undeniable facts:

Hillary would have been far worse than any version of a Trump Presidency.
In order to defeat Trump, the US deep state has had to terribly weaken the US and the AngloZionist Empire.  Just like Erdogan’ purges have left the Turkish military in shambles, the anti-Trump ‘color revolution’ has inflicted terrible damage on the reputation, authority and even credibility of the USA.

The first one is obvious.  So let me clarify the second one.  In their hate-filled rage against Trump and the American people (aka “the basket of deplorables”) the Neocons have had to show they true face. By their rejection of the outcome of the elections, by their riots, their demonization of Trump, the Neocons have shown two crucial things: first, that the US democracy is a sad joke and that they, the Neocons, are an occupation regime which rules against the will of the American people.  In other words, just like Israel, the USA has no legitimacy left.  And since, just like Israel, the USA are unable to frighten their enemies, they are basically left with nothing, no legitimacy, no ability to coerce.  So yes, the Neocons have won.  But their victory is removes the last chance for the US to avoid a collapse.

Trump, for all his faults, did favor the US, as a country, over the global Empire.  Trump was also acutely aware that ‘more of the same’ was not an option.  He wanted policies commensurate with the actual capabilities of the USA.  With Flynn gone and the Neocons back in full control – this is over.  Now we are going to be right back to ideology over reality.

Trump probably could have made America, well, maybe not “great again”, but at least stronger, a major world power which could negotiate and use its leverage to get the best deal possible from the others.  That’s over now.  With Trump broken, Russia and China will go right back to their pre-Trump stance: a firm resistance backed by a willingness and capability to confront and defeat the USA at any level.

I am quite sure that nobody today is celebrating in the Kremlin.  Putin, Lavrov and the others surely understand exactly what happened.  It is as if Khodorkovsy would have succeeded in breaking Putin in 2003.  In fact, I have to credit Russian analysts who for several weeks already have been comparing Trump to Yanukovich, who also was elected by a majority of the people and who failed to show the resolve needed to stop the ‘color revolution’ started against him.  But if Trump is the new Yanukovich, will the US become the next Ukraine?

Flynn was very much the cornerstone of the hoped-for Trump foreign policy.  There was a real chance that he would reign in the huge, bloated and all-powerful three letter agencies and that he would focus US power against the real enemy of the West: the Wahabis.  With Flynn gone, this entire conceptual edifice has now come down.  We are going to be left with the likes of Mattis and his anti-Iranian statements.  Clowns who only impress other clowns.

Today's Neocon victory is a huge event and it will probably be completely misrepresented by the official media.  Ironically, Trump supporters will also try minimize it all.  But the reality is that barring a most unlikely last-minute miracle, it’s over for Trump and the hopes of millions of people in the USA and the rest of the world who had hoped that the Neocons could be booted out of power by means of a peaceful election.  That is clearly not going to happen.

I see very dark clouds on the horizon.

*  *  *

UPDATE1: Just to stress an important point: the disaster is not so much that Flynn is out but what Trump’s caving in to the Neocon tells us about Trump’s character (or lack thereof).  Ask yourself – after what happened to Flynn, would you stick your neck out for Trump?

UPDATE2: Just as predicted – the Neocons are celebrating and, of course, doubling-down:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/.....red-trump-presidency


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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GEORGE SOROS GAVE JARED KUSHNER $259 MILLION CREDIT. THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER TO BETRAY TRUMP AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
From Jewish Business News


It turns out that George Soros is the money behind a new real estate venture called Cadre which was founded by Donald Trump’s son in law Jared Kushner and his brother Joshua Kushner.

The Real Deal has uncovered the fact that George Soros was the man who provided Cadre with a $259 million line of credit. A source told the publication, “Soros has had a long and productive relationship with the Kushner family.”

The financing was provided; even though, Soros has called President Trump a “would-be dictator.”

….

So why exactly would George Soros agree to help a new venture from Jared Kushner who is now serving as an advisor in the Donald Trump White House? After all, Soros and Trump really seem to hate one another. Well its like the famous line from “The Godfather”: Its just business, nothing personal.

Besides, George Soros offered credit to Jared Kushner and his brother Joshua Kushner and not Donald Trump.

http://jewishbusinessnews.com/.....e-cadre-250-million/

Well, we now know absolutely for certain why Soros gave credit to Kushner. Kushner was behind Trump’s disastrous decision to drop his original transition team and replace them with Mike Pence, Reince Priebus and Steve Bannon, all of whom have been steadily working against him, his image and his policies, whether Trump is fully aware of it or not.

It is not clear what other special credit lines Kushner has been getting from Wall Street. But my bet is that Kushner has done secret deals with the banks to remain liquid if and when the economy implodes so that he can buy up foreclosed properties.

As for Mike Pence, Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus, their closeness to Kushner and their actions strongly suggest the notion they are all Soros operatives. Soros bribes some, blackmails others.

https://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2017/02/13/george-soros-gave-jared-kushner-259-million-credit/


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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It's a new friggin BUMBLSPIRACY!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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It's a new friggin BUMBLSPIRACY!!!!


Haven't  you had enough of his Bull $hit?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Haven't  you had enough of his Bull $hit?

Without Sissy and the Dumblers (yes plural) I wouldn't have the pleasure of being exposed to delirium and
ill-informed nonsensical BS. Reality is that I print some of this $hit and share it with friends when we get
together for a drink. They always want to know "What's the latest with the forum numbnuts?"

It's too easy to discredit their FAKE NEWS they post all the time.
Love that they never OWN IT, though, they either redirect it (Sissy) or ignore it because they (Dumblers) can't justify it
so they just move on to post the next Dumblspiracy of FAKE NEWS!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Without Sissy and the Dumblers (yes plural) I wouldn't have the pleasure of being exposed to delirium and
ill-informed nonsensical BS. Reality is that I print some of this $hit and share it with friends when we get
together for a drink. They always want to know "What's the latest with the forum numbnuts?"


You print out posts from the message board and bring them to share with friends over some drinks?  You actually pass around printed copies?  LMAO!!!

You lead a very exciting life Joey, you wildman.

Print this post and please share with friends.


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You print out posts from the message board and bring them to share with friends over some drinks?  You actually pass around printed copies?  LMAO!!!

You lead a very exciting life Joey, you wildman.

Print this post and please share with friends.

YUP...they love it because they can't believe people like you really exist!
Gotta print them out, cuz they wouldn't believe me otherwise!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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YUP...they love it because they can't believe people like you really exist!
Gotta print them out, cuz they wouldn't believe me otherwise!


Just text or email the link to the web page you want to show to your echo chamber of friends.  It will save on paper and will demonstrate you have entered the 21st century  



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