One purchases a house and learns where the septic tank A reasonably intelligent person would find out where the septic system is BEFORE purchasing a property -- not after the purchase. With septic a property owner CAN UTILIZE ALL of one's property. A septic system DOES limit what one can do with a property. Especially, if it is a commercial property. One can NOT put a parking lot or other permanent structure over the septic system. Anyone who has even a smidgen of business sense would understand that businesses want to increase the gross revenue per square foot and, more importantly, the profit per square foot. A septic system does neither of those things. A public sewer system makes commercial and residential properties more desirable and more valuable.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
One purchases a house and learns where the septic tank A reasonably intelligent person would find out where the septic system is BEFORE purchasing a property -- not after the purchase. With septic a property owner CAN UTILIZE ALL of one's property. A septic system DOES limit what one can do with a property. Especially, if it is a commercial property. One can NOT put a parking lot or other permanent structure over the septic system. Anyone who has even a smidgen of business sense would understand that businesses want to increase the gross revenue per square foot and, more importantly, the profit per square foot. A septic system does neither of those things. A public sewer system makes commercial and residential properties more desirable and more valuable.
Yes, more valuable and a better reason to raise taxes on these propertys in the future based on this improvement.
Yes, more valuable and a better reason to raise taxes on these propertys in the future based on this improvement.
The truth is that if Rotterdam had public sewer lines along the major commercial corridors that are nearest the Interstate exits - Hamburg Street, Curry Road, Fort Hunter Road, Duanesburg Road, Burdeck Street - than we would have had the kind of commercial development (retail, hotels, offices, etc.) that would bring in enough tax revenue to LOWER residential tax rates. All of the towns closest to Interstate exits in the Capital Region EXCEPT FOR ROTTERDAM have profited/benefited (jobs, lower residential taxes) since the building of the Interstate Highway System in the 1960's and 1970's. Rotterdam chose to stay stuck in the 1940's and 1950's by refusing to build the infrastructure and update the zoning and codes needed to encourage good commercial development.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
One purchases a house and learns where the septic tank A reasonably intelligent person would find out where the septic system is BEFORE purchasing a property -- not after the purchase.
Well DUH. I NEVER said that a home buyer would wait until AFTER they have COMPLETED the purchase of a house to find out where the septic system is, did I? Perhaps you can quote the words where I said that. Any INTELLIGENT person would know that one finds out these things before one buys, and obviously you have never bought a house because anyone with intelligence knows that when one finds a house that one is interested in buying, one has a structural inspection, a termite inspection and a septic inspection BEFORE final decisions are made. An intelligent person knows that a home buyer would of course know where the septic system is BEFORE buying if from nothing else than through the inspection.
With septic a property owner CAN UTILIZE ALL of one's property. A septic system DOES limit what one can do with a property. Especially, if it is a commercial property. One can NOT put a parking lot or other permanent structure over the septic system. Anyone who has even a smidgen of business sense would understand that businesses want to increase the gross revenue per square foot and, more importantly, the profit per square foot. A septic system does neither of those things. A public sewer system makes commercial and residential properties more desirable and more valuable.
Any intelligent person knows that one CAN utilize ALL of one's property when they have a septic system. Would you care to explain WHY we are FULLY able to use 100% of our property even having a septic system? Is there a law against playing tag in the yard on top of the septic system? Well? Is there a law against erecting a swing set on top of the septic system? Is there are laws against putting a picnic table, a garden shed, a screen house on top of a septic system? Perhaps you can cite the laws that prohibit such?
Sure depending on the size and use of a commercial property, a septic system might not be acceptable. Obviously a parking lot couldn't be put up. But someone who has a commercial business and sells picnic tables CAN utilize ALL the property even with a septic system because sample picnic tables CAN be set up on top of a septic system, unless of course you can provide evidence that some local, state, or federal law prohibits it.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
I know we, personally, will never buy a property again that has septic. did it done it...won't do it again.....to many restrictions on what you should or should not put on or by the septic tank. not to mention....you'd be nuts to have a vegetable garden!!
as far as folks being able to opt out.....where do you begin?
No kids in school but you have to pay school taxes. We pay taxes for road maint. on roads we may never even travel. (state, county, town) We pay taxes for social security/medicare that we may never live to receive. We pay a fee for disability that we may never use. Businesses pay unemployment taxes even if their employees never used it. We are forced to buy car/home insurance even if we never use it. We pay taxes on Brush p/u even if you never use it. .............and the list goes on.....................
agree or not.......it's the system we live in.........so it should go for a vote and the majority will win....for or against!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Well DUH. I NEVER said that a home buyer would wait until AFTER they have COMPLETED the purchase of a house to find out where the septic system is, did I? Perhaps you can quote the words where I said that. You said it "One purchases a house and learns where the septic tank" Any INTELLIGENT person would know that one finds out these things before one buys, and obviously you have never bought a house because anyone with intelligence knows that when one finds a house that one is interested in buying, one has a structural inspection, a termite inspection and a septic inspection BEFORE final decisions are made. An intelligent person knows that a home buyer would of course know where the septic system is BEFORE buying if from nothing else than through the inspection. I am very well aware of the process - including inspections - of purchasing a home. You insist on pushing the lie that I don't know this or that. The fact is that you do NOT know what I know or don't know. You just insist on acting like a know-it-all douchebag. Any intelligent person knows that one CAN utilize ALL of one's property when they have a septic system. Would you care to explain WHY we are FULLY able to use 100% of our property even having a septic system? Is there a law against playing tag in the yard on top of the septic system? Well? Is there a law against erecting a swing set on top of the septic system? Is there are laws against putting a picnic table, a garden shed, a screen house on top of a septic system? Perhaps you can cite the laws that prohibit such? Sure depending on the size and use of a commercial property, a septic system might not be acceptable. Obviously a parking lot couldn't be put up. But someone who has a commercial business and sells picnic tables CAN utilize ALL the property even with a septic system because sample picnic tables CAN be set up on top of a septic system, unless of course you can provide evidence that some local, state, or federal law prohibits it. Are you as dense as your posts suggest that you are? No one gives a crap if you play tag on your lawn or dress like a fairy and dance the Nutcracker Suite on your lawn. The fact is that one can NOT put a permanent structure (garden shed, deck, driveway, etc. on top of a septic system. The fact is that most retail/commercial/office uses of a property have nothing to do with selling picnic tables. For that vast majority of uses tying up a few thousand square feet with a septic system negatively impacts their gross income and net profit per square feet. Also, you completely ignore the negative impact of septic systems on the environment and ground water levels. Public sewer systems are a good thing. Nothing you can post will change my view on that. I will continue to strongly advocate for expanding the town's sewer system throughout the town.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
Do you put a driveway in your back yard? Once again, 600 feet out of property sq footage of some 14,000 sq feet leaves AMPLE room for a driveway. But since you don't own property you wouldn't understand that.
Some people have their septic tank in their front yard. Sure, you can't put a driveway over a septic, but tell me DV, what ignoramus would put a septic tank in front of their garage door? DUH. Get a brain.
And please provide an explanation as to why and how a garden shed is a permanent fixture. Some 12 x 10 ft shed is "permanent" ROFL. What do you plan on putting in the shed, your aunties' cars? A place for a lawn mower, snowblower, wheelbarrow, clippers, weed whacker, a spreader, and wow, a watering can. And DV, of the property your two mommies own. I guess you are going to say there that with that property having a septic system there is ASBSOLUTELY NO PLACE WHATSOEVER in which to put a 500 sq ft garden shed, right on that whopping 2 acres, right?
Heck we know people in the town with septic system in their back yard, yards maybe 2,000 st ft, and they STILL have room for a garden shed and NOT on top of the septic. As well as a picnic table and a small patio.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
I know we, personally, will never buy a property again that has septic. did it done it...won't do it again.....to many restrictions on what you should or should not put on or by the septic tank. not to mention....you'd be nuts to have a vegetable garden!!
We have a small vegetable garden, several of our neighbors do to even bigger. Naturally it's not on top of the system. But something clear on the otherside of the yard, no problem.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Public sewer systems are a good thing. Nothing you can post will change my view on that. I will continue to strongly advocate for expanding the town's sewer system throughout the town.
naturally you would cheer for it. You do NOT pay taxes, you would NOT bear the financial responsibility.
Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent. Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
We have a small vegetable garden, several of our neighbors do to even bigger. Naturally it's not on top of the system. But something clear on the otherside of the yard, no problem.
you're nuts!!! your septic or your neighbors could have a small leak in their septic tank or pipes.....yer taking a big chance....even the septic folks told us that!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Hey McTROLL...put your 10x12 shed on top of the septic and then we'll talk about permanent fixture. You have to get to the septic how are you going to move that shed and it's contents? Machine sheds are considered PERMANENT FIXTURES! DUH!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
First, the nayboob troll said that he/she could put anything he/she wanted on top of the septic system. When faced with the REALITY that he/she is wrong, he/she is now saying that they can put things "near" and "in the same yard." DUH - everyone knows that ... knew that all along. Proving that the nayboob-troll attack was just another red-herring and/or cry for attention.
The fact is that if a developer/business-owner is looking for a property to build on. The developer/business-owner wants to get the highest revenue per square foot and the highest profit per square foot. Since the developer/business-owner can't make revenue - and thus no profit - from square footage tied up in a septic system. But a property that is on public sewers allows more of the total square footage to be utilized to generate revenue and profit. It is ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that developers/business-owners prefer to purchase properties that have public sewers rather than septic systems.
There really is no reason to continue this debate.
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