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Box A Rox
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Did G Worst Bush Keep Us Safe?

Donald Trump has claimed that W "didn't keep us safe".
Jeb says that he did "keep us safe".

What do you think?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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They're both right, just depends on your perspective....

For the average civilian, Jeb is right. For the 3000+ military dead and countless more injured, Trump is right.


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They're both right, just depends on your perspective....

For the average civilian, Jeb is right. For the 3000+ military dead and countless more injured, Trump is right.


Would the Right blame Obama if he had warnings of an  of an imminent terrorist attack,
in August,  yet ignored those warnings and went on a months vacation in Texas???


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Would the Right blame Obama if he had warnings of an  of an imminent terrorist attack,
in August,  yet ignored those warnings and went on a months vacation in Texas???


Hmmm...Would the left blame Clinton for ignoring the imminent threat for 7 years after the first WTC attack, and instead focused on getting BJ's from young and relatively unattractive interns in the Oval Office?  Rhetorical question...


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instead focused on getting BJ's from young and relatively unattractive interns in the Oval Office?  Rhetorical question...


More misogyny from Cicero.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Hmmm...Would the left blame Clinton for ignoring the imminent threat for 7 years after the first WTC attack,

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“I nearly got him. And I could have killed him, but I would have to destroy a little town called
Kandahar in Afghanistan and kill 300 innocent women and children, and then I would have
been no better than him.
And so I didn’t do it."

Hours after Bill Clinton spoke of his role in the 1998 decision to not attempt to kill Bin Laden,
the 2001 terror attack was underway in the United States.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Would the Right blame Obama if he had warnings of an  of an imminent terrorist attack,
in August,  yet ignored those warnings and went on a months vacation in Texas???


You ask for an opinion and I gave you mine.. I should have known better...
Your post was nothing but bait for more GOP/GWB bashing and more Obama worship... Go get a sock... I think its time for you to spawn over a picture of Barack Hussein Obama... again...



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You ask for an opinion and I gave you mine.. I should have known better...
Your post was nothing but bait for more GOP/GWB bashing and more Obama worship... Go get a sock... I think its time for you to spawn over a picture of Barack Hussein Obama... again...


Such a thin skin!!!  

So I also posted my opinion... was that OK with you???

IMO, the president, like a general, or a CEO is always responsible for events under his watch, both good
and bad.
That doesn't mean that I blame the president, the CEO or the General, but they are the one in charge at
the time of the event.
Sept 11 happened 8 months into the G W Bush presidency... not his first day or the first week.  I doubt that
things would have turned out much different that day if Gore had won the presidency.  
When it comes to BLAME... I blame Bin Laden.

Did G Worst Bush keep us safe?
To me the answer is obvious... 3000 people were killed in a terrorist attack, then thousands more in
his failed OIL WAR In Iraq.  If GWB isn't responsible for his own presidency... then who is???

NO BUSHY DIDN'T KEEP US SAFE.


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Such a thin skin!!!  


NO BUSHY DIDN'T KEEP US SAFE.


Blah blah blah... we all know what your intention was...just a DNC flamethrower...

BTW, I'll call your 3000 Military + civilians killed and raise you 600,000 Deaths below:

Just like GWB, FDR knew a (Japanese) attack was imminent, but didn't know where... doesn't matter:

using your quote (with edits)

Did G Worst Bush FDR keep us safe?
To me the answer is obvious... 3000 US people were killed in a terrorist attack at Pearl Harbor, then thousands hundred of thousands more in
his failed OIL WAR In Iraq WW2.  If GWB FDR isn't responsible for his own presidency... then who is???

NO BUSHY FDR DIDN'T KEEP US SAFE.


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Blah blah blah... we all know what your intention was...just a DNC flamethrower...

BTW, I'll call your 3000 Military + civilians killed and raise you 600,000 Deaths below:

Just like GWB, FDR knew a (Japanese) attack was imminent, but didn't know where... doesn't matter:

using your quote (with edits)

Did G Worst Bush FDR keep us safe?
To me the answer is obvious... 3000 US people were killed in a terrorist attack at Pearl Harbor, then thousands hundred of thousands more in
his failed OIL WAR In Iraq WW2.  If GWB FDR isn't responsible for his own presidency... then who is???

NO BUSHY FDR DIDN'T KEEP US SAFE.


Did FDR keep us safe???
OF COURSE HE DIDN'T.
Pearl Harbor was a huge intelligence failure and a major military defeat which cost the lives of both
civilian and military personnel at Pearl Harbor.

I don't see a controversy here.  How can you say either of these men KEPT US SAFE, when
both presided over total disasters with a large loss of American lives.

By the revisionists rules...George Armstrong Custer kept the men of the 7th Cavalry "SAFE"!


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Jeb Tries To Explain Why 'W' Isn't To Blame For 9/11, But Hillary Is For Benghazi

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Jeb Bush has insisted that his brother bears no blame for 9/11; it's how he reacted that matters.
At the same time, however, Republicans continue to blame Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton
for the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, which occurred while she was secretary of state.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeb-bush-benghazi_5624ecffe4b08589ef47f89d


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You ask for an opinion and I gave you mine.. I should have known better...
Your post was nothing but bait for more GOP/GWB bashing and more Obama worship... Go get a sock... I think its time for you to spawn over a picture of Barack Hussein Obama... again...


Haven't you noticed, 9 out of 10 of his posts are nothing but bait?  He has no one else to talk to in his corner room.


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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Haven't you noticed, 9 out of 10 of his posts are nothing but bait?  He has no one else to talk to in his corner room.


I didn't bring up this topic on the National Level... Donald Trump did, and the media covered it extensively.
If topics that are on all the networks, even the GOP Network, why would it not be a topic for political
discussion here... Unless...
Unless the only topics that are allowed are ones that agree with the Right Wing Agenda!  

If you are afraid of a national issue, then don't comment on it.


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As it turns out... The Liberals were right on this issue.
G WORST Bush Lied about Sept 11 warnings.


Nov. 13, 2015
Ex-CIA Chief: Bush & Cheney Deliberately Ignored
Warnings Of 9/11, Hid Paper Trail


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It’s long been suspected that the George W. Bush administration had advance warning
of the 9/11 attacks and did nothing to respond to it. Those suspicions have now been confirmed
by former CIA Director George Tenet and counter-terrorism chief Cofer Black in an astonishing
new interview with POLITICO, in which they reveal that they informed the Bush administration
in May 2001 of an imminent terrorist attack, and those warnings were deliberately ignored with
all the hubris that has come to characterize Bush’s disastrous presidency.

Tenet recounts how the CIA presented a plan (the “Blue Sky” paper) to deal with the growing
threat from al-Qaeda in early 2001 – and were not only told to shelve the plan, they were told
to hide the paper trail that showed that the Administration had been warned.


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As it turns out... The Liberals were right on this issue.
G WORST Bush Lied about Sept 11 warnings.


Nov. 13, 2015
Ex-CIA Chief: Bush & Cheney Deliberately Ignored
Warnings Of 9/11, Hid Paper Trail




So much for your elected congress and the 911 commission.  Looks like POLITICO was able to find out more about your corrupt government than your congressperson could.  Lol

I guess it's time to repeal the patriot act and get rid of homeland insecurity, since the government agencies in place at the time had all the information they needed to prevent the attack.  


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