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i kinda wonder how the robbery of proctors safe was forgotten?      


http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2015/aug/16/0816_SchdyRep/


SCHENECTADY — Arian Horbovetz thinks this city’s name could have a lot to do with why people trash it.

“It’s just one of those names you kind of say, ‘What does that word even mean?’ I think that’s kind of a fun name, and that might be why it’s kind of a catchy thing to hate on,” said Horbovetz, a travel blogger and photographer from Rochester who wrote about Schenectady in March.

The name Schenectady has Mohawk origins meaning “beyond the pines,” which is reflected in the name of a crime drama filmed here in the summer of 2011, “Place Beyond the Pines,” that didn’t help curb the negative perception.


Mourners light candles during a vigil for recent shooting victims on Schenectady Street in this July 31 photo. (Gazette file)

Whatever the origins, the city’s bad reputation persists, despite highly visible progress in safety, and downtown growth and development over the past two decades.

A BuzzFeed article from 2013 lists “Hating on Schenectady” as one of 49 things people from Upstate New York love. In mid-July, a Little League all-star game slated for Schenectady’s field was moved to Scotia after parents in Saratoga said they were afraid to play in Schenectady. An Aug. 6 Tweet from @SMACKHighNY, an account with more than 91,000 followers, reads “Schenectady HS: the Compton of New York.”

“I think Schenectady gets a worse rap than Troy or Albany,” said Kelly Marr, a 27-year-old Capital Region native who lives in Schenectady.

Defenders of the city, such as Marr, say the bad rap is unjustified, even in the aftermath of a recent spate of shootings in the city’s Hamilton Hill neighborhood. No arrests have been made in the three shootings on Schenectady Street that left 18-year-old Kusaan Tolliver dead and two men in their 20s recovering from gunshot wounds at Albany Medical Center.

“[The shootings] have been in an isolated area,” said Marr, who started a pro-Schenectady Instagram account, @schenectadydoesntsuck, in March of last year with a goal of reversing the negative vibe.

“The majority of the city is really nice. If you look around, there’s beautiful houses and things going on, and things to do. The downtown area is being revitalized and something new is popping up every week.”

Philip Morris, who has been at the heart of much of that revitalization as CEO of Proctors, said the theater has had just one customer report a car being broken into over the past 12 years. He said he often tells people their cars are better off parked in downtown Schenectady than they are at Colonie Center.

“Perception and reality often don’t match,” he said.

Sadly, he said, people shoot people they know, “and Schenectady suffers that just like any city suffers that.”

Morris said he has heard people say “‘I’m not going downtown,’ and when they say that they almost mean every downtown.” People should not be afraid to come to Schenectady, he said.

“The more people, the more safety,” he said, “so in fact, the more people come, the less likely trouble will be.”

On Wednesday morning, about 1,000 people lined State Street, from MVP Health Care to Schenectady County Community College, to show their community pride during a “Miles of Smiles” event hosted by Buzz Media Solutions. The event aimed to promote the city’s positives.

Schenectady police Chief Brian Kilkullen said the city, for the most part, is safe.

“People looking to come to Schenectady typically are coming to frequent or to patronize the businesses,” he said. “Those types of businesses are not in the areas where we are having some issues with our shootings.”

Crime is actually down citywide from last year, although shootings have gone way up.

Crime is down 22 percent this year, with violent crime down 14 percent, the police chief said. There have been 23 shootings this year, compared with six through Aug. 4 last year. Kilkullen confirmed that most of the shootings are confined to the Hamilton Hill and Mont Pleasant neighborhoods, and involve a “relatively small number of individuals.”

“Our crime analysis is producing regular reports mapping out our crime, and we’re putting resources in those areas,” he said.

Marr, whose Instagram account has grown to nearly 3,000 followers, said she thinks more people have started to “kind of stand up for Schenectady” since she started @schenectadydoesntsuck a year and a half ago. “I think so,” she said. “It feels that way.”

She said a lot of the negativity comes from people who are “taking other people’s word for it and not thinking for themselves.”

“I think if an outsider came to Schenectady for the first time and had no idea what Schenectady was, or hadn’t heard any of the biased Capital Region residents’ opinions, they would say ‘Oh, this is kind of a cool little city,’ ” she said.

Horbovetz, the travel blogger, said he had heard very little about Schenectady, only that “that there’s nothing there,” when he visited for the first time in March.

“That’s why I set out to find out myself,” he said.

What he found, “a thriving downtown on the up and up,” impressed him. He wrote a nearly 5,000-word blog entry called “Schenectady: The Lights Shine Again,” highlighting the city’s restaurants, shops, nightlife and architecture.

The people he met in Schenectady also had good things to say about their city.

“There were so many people who were really high on what was going on in Schenectady,” he said. “If the people here are fired up about this community, then I should be fired up, too.”
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Horbovetz, the travel blogger, said he had heard very little about Schenectady, only that “that there’s nothing there,” when he visited for the first time in March.

“That’s why I set out to find out myself,” he said.

What he found, “a thriving downtown on the up and up,” impressed him. He wrote a nearly 5,000-word blog entry called “Schenectady: The Lights Shine Again,” highlighting the city’s restaurants, shops, nightlife and architecture.


easy to say when you're just passing thru!!!!
guess he didn't travel to hamilton hill or mt. pleasant, or over the 'bridge to no where, and get out and talk to the folks who live in those areas.
did he visit the dss building during their peak hours?
probably not.
how about bethesda house or city mission?
probably not.
and how 'bout those taxes??!!!!

good try mr. travel blogger.....but no cigar for you!!!!


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I have a business associate, one who has travel extensively throughout the nation, who within two days of being in Schenectady changed her hotel from the Parker Inn to one in Clifton Park. She didn't feel safe walking from the parking lot to the hotel after dark because, "the downtown is so seedy and questionable."  A new person coming in does not think it's a cool little town, they have an even worse opinion than that of locals.
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Do they send extra cars downtown when a Proctor's show lets out?
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Whatever the origins, the city’s bad reputation persists, despite highly visible progress in safety, and downtown growth and development over the past two decades.


“The majority of the city is really nice. If you look around, there’s beautiful houses and things going on, and things to do. The downtown area is being revitalized and something new is popping up every week.”


Morris said he has heard people say “‘I’m not going downtown,’ and when they say that they almost mean every downtown.” People should not be afraid to come to Schenectady, he said.

“The more people, the more safety,” he said, “so in fact, the more people come, the less likely trouble will be.”

Schenectady police Chief Brian Kilkullen said the city, for the most part, is safe.

Crime is actually down citywide from last year, although shootings have gone way up.

There have been 23 shootings this year, compared with six through Aug. 4 last year.

“Our crime analysis is producing regular reports mapping out our crime, and we’re putting resources in those areas,” he said.



Masturbaters.

How many of these people actually live in the city?

Top one percent of the highest taxes in the state.

More shootings per capita than any place within 100 miles.

Your chances of being a crime victim are more than 1 in 18.

They should rename it spin city.

Pay no attention to the police chief and Mayor behind the curtain.

The great and powerful masters of spin have spoken!



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easy to say when you're just passing thru!!!!
guess he didn't travel to hamilton hill or mt. pleasant, or over the 'bridge to no where, and get out and talk to the folks who live in those areas.
did he visit the dss building during their peak hours?
probably not.
how about bethesda house or city mission?
probably not.
and how 'bout those taxes??!!!!

good try mr. travel blogger.....but no cigar for you!!!!


How about the homeless camp across from SCC where they work in shifts begging in traffic.

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Do they send extra cars downtown when a Proctor's show lets out?


People exiting Proctor's at 10 or 11pm are risking their lives walking to the parking garage.

And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that crime is deliberately under reported.

By the police, the Mayor and the newspaper where the Mayors wife works as a social media spin-meister.

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everyone remember hurricane katrina that hit New Orleans?
once the area was exposed, folks got to see it up close and personal.
their so called 'tourist area' (like Schenectady's downtown) was the ONLY viable area.....the rest were the shacks where the poor and oppressed lived under government rule via entitlements.

...................JUST LIKE SCHENECTADY!!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Zombie properties in all neighborhoods, former stores turned into street corner churches and yanked off the tax rolls, nonprofits even on the best blocks enjoying a freebie, mobs at pickups days at the food
pantry, 3 shootings on one block in two weeks, the one high dreck company Downtown ready to go out. Yes the block around Proctor's is nice, the farmers market has brought life down there on Sunday and the Rose Garden is great thanks solely to volunteer efforts but all neighborhoods are reeling from over 40 years of over taxation, patronage hiring, DEM fiscal incompetents with City cars/cellphone falling over each
other in City Hall. Funny how no one mentions Mt Pleasant which is in total free fall with the couple open businesses ready to shutter. When was the last business person in the Mayor's office? Mayor Ellis
decades ago. The City School system is only the second worst in the area because of horrible Albany. As far as the cheerleaders even here they have no skin in the game. The implosion always looks better from
afar.
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