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Libertarian4life
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And you can show proof that gun control won't reduce deaths in Schdy?
Please provide this infinite bit of wisdom supported by facts!
Do not repeat your claims about the safe act, as that is a generalization.
Prove that it will have no effect on Schdy, as you so boldly claim!


Prove that the SAFE act saved one person in Schenectady.

You are trying to prove me wrong by demanding proof that the SAFE act won't reduce gun deaths in Schenectady.

The proof already exists that gun deaths have increased since the SAFE act was put in place.

Chief Killcullen admitted that shooting deaths are much higher than a year ago.

Prove that even one single legal gun that was affected by the SAFE act, was ever used in a crime of any kind in Schenectady.

Not one legal gun that was affected by the SAFE act was ever used in any crime in Schenectady.

Go ahead, prove my statement to be wrong.

Or continue to act retardedly like you always do, and demand that I prove a negative.

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Libertarian4life
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t due to the violent society we live in today..... any act of violence would be played out with or without guns....one way or another.
imho


Absolutely correct.

But, you can take every single legal gun away, and you will still have gun crimes too.

Australia took all of the legal guns.

Crime and violence shot up and gun deaths are surging right now too.



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Quoted from joebxr

Don't disagree, but someone likes to make bold statements they can't support with facts.


Fact: Criminal's guns could give a flying fucck about the SAFE act.

The SAFE act has not saved one life.

Feel free to post the name of one single person the law saved.


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Prove that the SAFE act saved one person in Schenectady.

You are trying to prove me wrong by demanding proof that the SAFE act won't reduce gun deaths in Schenectady.

The proof already exists that gun deaths have increased since the SAFE act was put in place.

Chief Killcullen admitted that shooting deaths are much higher than a year ago.

Prove that even one single legal gun that was affected by the SAFE act, was ever used in a crime of any kind in Schenectady.

Not one legal gun that was affected by the SAFE act was ever used in any crime in Schenectady.

Go ahead, prove my statement to be wrong.

Or continue to act retardedly like you always do, and demand that I prove a negative.


As usual, instead of providing facts to support your lie, you challenge
others to provide facts to disprove them.

I'm not the one making bold assed statements, you are...and you can't provide
directed facts to prove it, AS USUAL!!!!

Go ahead, PROVE YOUR STATEMENT IS TRUE!!!  YOU CAN'T!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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as a public we tend to prefer stupid fluffy sayings from  politicians like 'safe act' 'no child left behind' etc etc....

as a collective we are that stupid and gullible....you can get that kind of stuff on faith at church....

we already have laws in place to punish the criminals after arrested, charged, tried and convicted....THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

everyone thinks this so called 'church precrime' sh!t works...hahahahahaha if it did then there would be a bunch of church saints running
around being good and this conversation wouldn't be happening and as a matter of fact there would be no need for government or laws..

see that...no laws...hahahahahahah....churches have missions with cathechisms/laws at the most human level and we still have issue
with them not allowing gay marriage based on church laws(mind you, I dont care whether they marry anyone, I don't the state
should be granting marriages either)...but you see it's the same thing....

pseudo control over guns and pseudo control over marriage and basically pseudo control over everything in your life....

I bet people feel much better knowing there are precrime laws in effect just to prevent the growth of criminals.....hahahahahahahaha
sounds lie church and it's multitude of sins lists.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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see that...no laws...hahahahahahah....churches have missions with cathechisms/laws at the most human level and we still have issue
with them not allowing gay marriage based on church laws(mind you, I dont care whether they marry anyone, I don't the state
should be granting marriages either)...but you see it's the same thing....



historically, marriage was performed by a religious leader.
the state was never involved back in the day.
HOWEVER.....divorce eventually became an option.
there were properties, children and monies that had to be disbursed equally.
the church was not equipped to deal with divorce and 'equitable distribution'...so the divorcing couple went to the government/lawyers.
Granting marriages isn't the issue..........divorce/separation is.
cause even if folks live together, have children, buy a home, have joint investments......they will still need an attorney/government to disburse the 'stuff' equally.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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historically, marriage was performed by a religious leader.
the state was never involved back in the day.
HOWEVER.....divorce eventually became an option.
there were properties, children and monies that had to be disbursed equally.
the church was not equipped to deal with divorce and 'equitable distribution'...so the divorcing couple went to the government/lawyers.
Granting marriages isn't the issue..........divorce/separation is.
cause even if folks live together, have children, buy a home, have joint investments......they will still need an attorney/government to disburse the 'stuff' equally.


my point was that the public is in an uproar about churches not performing gay marriages because it's against their 'laws'/beliefs
etc.....and people 'feel safe'(loosely used term) when belonging to a church that believe like them and the backing of an
authority to make them feel stronger/safer or that they are 'better than the other human because they don't do that 'sin'.'

The NYsafe act and other fluffy legislation rings with the same sound...the government is not a moral compass for pre-crime.
the government is a reactionary tool for punishment when a person infringes upon another person.
saying there are laws to keep guns out of criminal hands is like saying they know the heart/mind/soul of all humans...that's not
true.....but it makes everyone feel safe or believe they are safe just by association or 'better than the other human because
they don't do that 'sin'.'

some spend time bashing churches but believe the government to be different, when in actuality it's an institution not unlike
a church. you can leave a church but you can't leave the cult of government.





...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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some spend time bashing churches but believe the government to be different, when in actuality it's an institution not unlike
a church. you can leave a church but you can't leave the cult of government.


Churches (not all, but most) sold out to the  government decades ago.
The churches (again not all, but most) -
take government monies.
take part in government celebrations (memorial day, 4th of july, veterans day, flag day...blah blah blah)
churches (most) accept divorce as an accepted way of life now.
the churches (most) bit@h about gay marriage yet they have folded under for everything else.
some church leaders run for government office.
encourage folks how to vote in a GOVERNMENT election.

The church has lost it's way and sold out to the government.
Instead of teaching about love, salvation, compassion, family, helping those in need, community..... they stand in their pulpits and preach about government issues!
Separation of church and state?
One can hardly tell the difference anymore.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Quoted from bumblethru


Separation of church and state?
One can hardly tell the difference anymore.


Maybe you're going to the wrong church!


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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Maybe you're going to the wrong church!


church isn't and shouldn't be restricted to the confines of walls/buildings.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Quoted from HarryP


Maybe you're going to the wrong church!


     ^
HIGH FIVE!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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church isn't and shouldn't be restricted to the confines of walls/buildings.




Note:
For the GOP, It's just The Opposite!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from joebxr

As usual, instead of providing facts to support your lie, you challenge
others to provide facts to disprove them.

I'm not the one making bold assed statements, you are...and you can't provide
directed facts to prove it, AS USUAL!!!!

Go ahead, PROVE YOUR STATEMENT IS TRUE!!!  YOU CAN'T!!!


Moron, I will explain it once again.

My claim is that nothing happened.

Proof requires something to happen.

Plus your retard logic also makes the assertion that anything without a link to an article is not true.

If you think something has happened, then that is your claim to prove.

Here is another statement.

You would need to double your IQ to qualify as being retarded.





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Wrong Box....freedom is the distance between the human AND the church or state.....you haven't learn yet have you?

church gives one FREE ASSOCIATION

government offers no such thing, hhhmmmm wouldn't that be a cult? well, a patriotic one....we like to kill obscure common enemies
from other countries...hhhhmmmm


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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