Again, how do you resolve it when thy don't agree? You can't just say that then the fetus is aborted or not aborted, because you are forcing the wishes of one party on the other party.
I'll type really slow so even you might understand.
So EVERYONE is free to choose and do whatever they perceive as 'right' based on their self determination? does this encompass EVERYTHING? ya know.....if it feels good, do it?
Absolutely yes.
But you must also accept the consequences of your actions.
It's not a matter of doing what feels good, it's knowing the difference between right and wrong and basing your actions on your personal beliefs.
For some reason you are attempting to say that people using good moral and ethical decisions is somehow anarchy.
According to Libertarian's philosophy than if it felt good for that person to shoot up a movie theater or that other person to shoot up an elementary school than it is O.K. According to Libertarian: who are we to force our beliefs on someone else?
Also - to respond to something that Joe said .. it really isn't just 2 persons' rights .. we can't forget about the rights of the baby in the womb.
a baby/fetus is not a painted work of art or a building............we are talking about a human being!! so human life has boiled down to nothing more and nothing less than a work of art or a building, that once it is dismantled, it goes to the highest bidder. I find that more than disturbing!
You keep taking common sense, equality and fairness and claiming things that are totally not true or eveen close to the topic being discussed.
How do you turn a call for fairness and equality into auctioning fetuses to the highest bidder?
No one has a right to make decisions regarding a fetus or child except for the parents.
I'm not talking about government dispensed rights, I'm talking about the self evident truth that we are all created equal.
Both parents have equal rights.
The law just happens to side with women.
That law should be ignored and challenged as unconstitutional.
I'll type really slow so even you might understand.
Treating people equally is not the use of force.
It is a promise from the founding fathers.
You need to type much slower so that you might understand your own words...your scenario is not "equal" and it is forcing a decision on one party and not the other. Stop trying to white wash it! How can you possibly continue to deny that!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
"You can't even comprehend the concept of both parties having the same rights, requiring both to consent or no deal."
So a misogynistic husband, can force his wife to carry a pregnancy to term, simply because he wants to punish her.
Equal rights... OK. Then the hubby gets to carry the fetus for 4 1/2 months, then the wife gets her 4 1/2 months! Doesn't work that way does it.
In a problem pregnancy, the Husband's refusal to allow an abortion could be a matter of life and death to the wife.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The baby's rights are deferred to the parents, since the baby has no actual voice or ability to participate in the decision process.
I fully understand that the parents have a right to make decisions for the baby/child until he or she is old enough to make decisions and exercise his or hers rights. HOWEVER - I do not believe that a parent has the right to kill the child insider or outside the womb. There have even been cases where mothers have been prosecuted for mistreated (ex. by using drugs during pregnancy) the baby inside their womb and others have been indicted and convicted of murder in cases where a pregnant mother has been murdered. So obviously, there is no right to kill a child. The only way that the Pelosi-Tonko Pro-Abortion crowd can force their distorted, civil-rights denying, immoral crusade for abortion on demand is to claim that the child in the womb is not human or is less than fully human. In this way, the Pro-Abortion crowd is just as bad as the Pro-Slavers, Pro-Segregationists, Nazi Death Camp, and all the others who try to oppress others and legitimize it by dehumanizing their victims.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
Um... Neither one to my knowledge, and I think that I would have heard about 90,000 black BABIES dying.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Well that IS what you said when you said that you can't force your beliefs on others. Your logic is bullshit. Every law, rule or socially accepted standard of behavior would be wiped away if everyone could do what they wanted and others couldn't put their beliefs into laws, rules or socially accepted standards of behavior --- society would collapse into chaos.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
You should read more about the philosophy. You cannot aggress and violate the natural rights of another person. Going into a theater and shooting it up is in total violation of the philosophy. As is, the state forcibly disarming people and preventing them to defend themselves in the movie theater with the crazed shooter.
The libertarian philosophy is pretty simple, it's non aggression.
I was speaking about Libertarian4Life's philosophy not the whole Libertarian movement's philosophy. However, I have read and heard enough to have formed my own opinion about that subject. I see that you believe that one person can't violate the natural rights of another person. THAT is exactly what I have been saying and why I believe that abortion should be illegal. Abortion is the ultimate agressive act against another - completely innocent and defenseless human being. The U.S. has allowed more than 50 million babies in the womb to be denied their most fundamental -- actually existential right -- the right to life. Shame on the Pro-Abortion crowd including our own member of Congress for being complicit in this genocide. Shame on America for falling for the Pro-Death line of bull sh*t for the past 40 years.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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