The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
in either case........legal or not...political or not............every human should not even be able to process this atrocity. again............it is pure EVIL at it's core!!! it is mind boggling to think there are humans who walk among us who applaud and support this horrific behavior. and again.....let God handle this His way and all the other atrocities around the world.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
the reality behind America's 'sanitized' image of abortion, the reality of what an abortion is and how it morally compromises ALL OF US!!
again, legal or not there are bigger ethical questions that the video raises.
to me it's just like watching Hannibal Lecter discuss making a human casserole and protesting that all the ingredients were provided willingly.
then there's the issue of the dialogue itself. Nucatola sips wine while describing the destruction of fetuses with a disturbing casual air. imo, even if you think of abortion as a tragic necessity, or the donation of tissue as a helpful 'byproduct'.....there's just something immoral about the way it is all discussed over a salad................discussing pulverized lungs and hearts between mouthfuls of salad!!!! OMG!
they tend to white wash this issue with words like...reproductive health centers.... medical services....procedures....blah blah blah... anything but calling it what abortion really is ...... the obliteration of a fetus.
again...legal or not....and if nothing else....this video brings the disturbing truth out on how horrific the practice of abortion is!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
in either case........legal or not...political or not............every human should not even be able to process this atrocity. again............it is pure EVIL at it's core!!! it is mind boggling to think there are humans who walk among us who applaud and support this horrific behavior. and again.....let God handle this His way and all the other atrocities around the world.
LOL @ Righteous indignation!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If Bumbler's altered video says so... it must be true!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box and his extreme liberal friends live in an Alice in Wonderland World -- where up is down and down is up ... they are trying to alter reality to fit their own crooked, perverted view of the world.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
Box and his extreme liberal friends live in an Alice in Wonderland World -- where up is down and down is up ... they are trying to alter reality to fit their own crooked, perverted view of the world.
Box is entitled to his beliefs just as you are.
It is both of your rights to believe and act accordingly to your own moral code.
Calling for the force of law to force your beliefs onto others is not a right.
Abortion is exclusively part of a family's reproductive rights.
I have no objection to anyone behaving according to their own family beliefs.
Attempting legislation to force people to obey your beliefs is something that I will always vote against.
Follow the teachings of God, Buddha. Mohammed, Satan, or whoever, as long as it stays within your own family, I do not object.
It is both of your rights to believe and act accordingly to your own moral code.
Calling for the force of law to force your beliefs onto others is not a right.
Abortion is exclusively part of a family's reproductive rights.
I have no objection to anyone behaving according to their own family beliefs.
Attempting legislation to force people to obey your beliefs is something that I will always vote against.
Follow the teachings of God, Buddha. Mohammed, Satan, or whoever, as long as it stays within your own family, I do not object.
ahhhhhhhhhhh....another libertarian. back to the 60's we go.
so you don't find ANY of that video disturbing?
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Box and his extreme liberal friends live in an Alice in Wonderland World -- where up is down and down is up ... they are trying to alter reality to fit their own crooked, perverted view of the world.
The REALITY is that Roe V Wade is the law of the land. Right Wingers are doing their best to deny women health care coverage from everything STD prevention to birth control... all in the name of Right Winger Christian Religion.
"I don't want you to have sex because of MY religious beliefs" so I will deny you needed health care to FORCE MY puritanical values on YOU.
The more the Rabid Right pushes this issue, the more it will drive women away from the GOP into the DEM Party.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
It is both of your rights to believe and act accordingly to your own moral code.
Calling for the force of law to force your beliefs onto others is not a right.
Abortion is exclusively part of a family's reproductive rights.
I have no objection to anyone behaving according to their own family beliefs.
Attempting legislation to force people to obey your beliefs is something that I will always vote against.
Follow the teachings of God, Buddha. Mohammed, Satan, or whoever, as long as it stays within your own family, I do not object.
Do you object to the father preventing the pregnant woman from aborting a fetus by physically restraining her? Do you object to the father forcing the woman to abort? Do you take into consideration the unborn fetus' opinion on whether it should live or die and whether its organs are donated to benefit those that were born and permitted to live? Those organs are not property of the mother or father, it's a separate unique life. Who has the property rights to the organs? The mother, father, planned parenthood,/abortion clinic, or the government?
Do you object to the father preventing the pregnant woman from aborting a fetus by physically restraining her? Do you object to the father forcing the woman to abort? Do you take into consideration the unborn fetus' opinion on whether it should live or die and whether its organs are donated to benefit those that were born and permitted to live? Those organs are not property of the mother or father, it's a separate unique life. Who has the property rights to the organs? The mother, father, planned parenthood,/abortion clinic, or the government?
This post was not directed at me, but IMO
This is an issue between the mother and her doctor. No one else. Just as the woman can donate her organs both while she is living and after her death, the woman can donate any tissue from her abortion or not. It's her decision. No one else. I think my view pretty much coincides with NY State law on this issue. Cicero's view, and questions posted above would require a change in NY Law (and maybe federal law) to be legal.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The Center for Medical Progress claimed that the video was part of a three-year investigation into Planned Parenthood’s practice of selling aborted fetus parts and captured a conversation that took place in July 2014 in which Dr. Nucatola discussed how organs were preserved during the abortion process with an eye towards later sale.
It’s unclear why the video was held for over a year before it was released, (SO IT HIT THE PRESS IN TIME FOR THE 2016 ELECTION CYCLE PROPAGANDA, OF COURSE) and it has some curious aspects to it. For starters, it opens with a news report and footage of Planned Parenthood president Gloria Feldt condemning “inappropriate behavior,” presented in a manner that made Feldt’s statement seem like she was commenting on the current issue even though the quote was actually more than a decade old.
Again... this video, much like FOXSNOOZE isn't aimed at reporting the truth, it's aimed at swaying gullible Conservative voters.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
ahhhhhhhhhhh....another libertarian. back to the 60's we go.
so you don't find ANY of that video disturbing?
What part don't you understand?
The part where passing a law doesn't prevent continued actions?
Or the part where you want to use force on others to make them follow your beliefs.
I find most religions and actions by most governments to be a thousand times more disturbing.
If people want to not reproduce, who the fucck gave any man the right to force them.
Like I said a thousand times, I am 100% pro-life, but I don't have any right to force others to follow my beliefs.
People have no respect for human life or fetuses.
The government teaches it.
They call it collateral damage.
You fools want the government to be in charge of your reproductive choices?
No, you all want the government to use force on people other than yourselves, to control their reproduction.
Fuccken hell, you people amaze me.
Your representatives are slaughtering innocent civilian people without arrest, trial or conviction, as they have done for a century, and this is the crap you whine about.
Your elected officials vaporized 2 entire cities.
You can't fuccken demand respect for the yet to be born before you stop showing no respect for the already born.
The government and the churches should be leading by example calling for the end of wholesale killing of the innocent.
In a world where collateral damage is acceptable, how are you surprised that fetuses are collateral damage?
Hypocrisy.
Our bloodthirsty troops are terrorizing the world exactly the same as they have done since they invaded North America.
You can't demand an end to the war on fetuses while still taking lives around the world every hour of every day.
You people have no respect for the living, how can you demand legislation demanding respect for the nearly living?
You want to stop or greatly reduce abortions, videotape every abortion and the handling/disposal of the fetuses, and make the videos public.
What? People shouldn't be offended by that, since they don't consider them to be people.
Do you object to the father preventing the pregnant woman from aborting a fetus by physically restraining her?
Actually, I have said it many times, no abortion should be performed without consent of both parents. And no, I don't object to that at all. I believe the father has equal rights to the child/fetus. If it were my fetus, I would do whatever it takes to prevent my reproduction from being aborted. Anyone who is protecting their own fetus from abortion would go free if I was on the jury.
Do you take into consideration the unborn fetus' opinion on whether it should live or die and whether its organs are donated to benefit those that were born and permitted to live?
Do you mean like when a mother signs away her dead child's organs without consent?
I consider a fetus to be an extension of my life as well as an extension of the mother's life.
I am by no means the average person.
I'm going to have to respond by saying that consent of both parents should also be required for organ donation.
Even when someone dies, both parents(If living) should be required to donate their child's organs.
Those organs are not property of the mother or father, it's a separate unique life. Who has the property rights to the organs?The mother, father, planned parenthood,/abortion clinic, or the government?
I absolutely disagree with that. I believe that we all life forever as long as we keep reproducing band surviving.
My life force lives on in my children and my grandchildren and every descendant that follows.
Just as when I cut a leaf from a tree and grow a new tree, it isn't a new and unique life, it is a replication and continuation of the already living tree's life force.
So you see, my belief is that I may live forever.
And you are all free to believe that you live and die, the end.
I choose to be immortal through transmigration of my life force, my soul, my spirit.
Any law passed that interferes with my religious/spiritual beliefs are unconstitutional and therefore don't have to be followed.
I also believe that I have no right to stop others from ending their family trees through whatever method they choose.
Abortion, suicide, condoms, getting their tubes tied, whatever.
I am not a God.
I am just me, a continuation of the life force of my parents, grandparents, etc.
The cell passed on to me from my father and the cell passed on to me from my mother, contains all of the information needed to create a new complete human host for their life force, which is me.
I also believe their memories and life experiences are passed along as well.
It's called live and let live, not live and terrorize others to believe what I believe.
The Constitution is on my side.
My religious/spiritual beliefs cannot be regulated or prohibited.
I am a free man and make my own choices in life.
I follow the laws that don't conflict with my beliefs.
I see part of me in my kids and grandchildren, both in physical appearance and also in their behavior which was learned from me.
I choose to live forever through them.
But they are also welcome to end it by not reproducing, whereby my life force would return to the collective life force of the Earth.
I have respect for human life, animal life and the life force of the entire world.
I don't have respect for those who kill the innocent, or destroy our environment to obtain wealth and power.
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