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Libertarian4life
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China harvests organs from prisoners when they are executed.(Shot in the head)
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Lets not make this a political issue....or what's legal and what isn't.
it is clearly a very disturbing atrocity that everyone should be appalled at.
I can't imagine ANYONE with a thread of human value, who saw this video, didn't walk away 'sick'.


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Quoted from BuckStrider
See, here's the problem Boxy.
The video is pretty damning. It also extremely disturbing, no matter what side of the argument you are on.


This video is a composite of lots of video's... who knows what the video actually shows.  It's been
edited to show what the anti choice fanatics want it to show.  
Are the answers given even from the questions asked???
Who knows.

The last time a similar video "appeared", it was investigated and although equally damning
when viewed, as it was edited, was investigated by the FBI and showed no wrong doing.

The video wasn't made to show the truth, it was made to show the opposite.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Yes... and it's illegal.


Do you have a problem with it because you personally believe it's barbaric to harvest fetal organs for money.  Or is it a problem because the doctor violated a law?


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Here's the complete video unedited
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So... who made this video?
Some investigative reporter from "60 minutes" or 20/20?
Or even some hack from FoxSnooze???
NO.  Of course not.  Those journalists are at least "journalists".

So who did make this video, edited from who knows how many different interviews?

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An individual named David Daleiden has been widely credited as the
“leader” of the Center for Medical Progress. While Daleiden’s online footprint
is minimal, a 2009 Claremont University article (penned by fellow conservative
activist Chuck Johnson) reported:

James O’Keefe is a friend of David Daleiden’s. O’Keefe and Hannah Giles
have been going coast to coast documenting instances of ACORN employees
willingly giving advice on how to avoid paying taxes and shielding a would be pimp
(running for congress) and a prostitutent from the watchful eye of the law.
They’ve brought their investigation to New York City, Washington D.C., and Baltimore.

O’Keefe came to prominence in 2009 after he produced “egregiously misleading”
and “severely edited” videos targeting agencies such as ACORN




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Everyone knows that this video is a hack job, made not for the truth but as fodder for the
rabid right anti choice zealots.

True or not, it matters not to the makers.  Righties will be OUTRAGED by this altered video...
so it is already a success.  
There is already 3 congressional investigations into the video (of course), and they will drag
on as long as possible.
The Gullible, and the Blind will follow.  And when the story is shown to be bogus... it will be
old news.

"You Can Fool Some Of The People All The Time"


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Box  I just posted the full unedited video which is almost three hours long. Not hacked up.
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Quoted from rpforpres
Box  I just posted the full unedited video which is almost three hours long. Not hacked up.


Here are 5 FACTS from that video:

1. Nowhere does anyone from Planned Parenthood discuss “selling” fetal tissue.
Even the heavily edited video from extreme anti-abortion activists doesn’t show this or make this accusation. It simply doesn’t happen.

On the video, the Planned Parenthood staff member talks about standard reimbursement fees for costs associated with tissue donation programs, which every health care provider has and which the federal law provides for.

2. Planned Parenthood helps patients who wish to donate fetal tissue, just like other health care providers do.
Some Planned Parenthood affiliates have programs for women and families who want to donate tissue to leading research institutions that will use it to help find treatment and cures for diseases like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s.

These programs are just like any other high-quality health care provider’s — they follow all ethics and laws, patients consent fully, and nobody benefits financially.

3. The people who launched this campaign have a track record of making totally false claims.
The person leading this campaign used to be a senior staff member at Live Action, which for seven years has made false claims that have been widely discredited by journalists and independent organizations; Forbes Magazine noted that their claims about Planned Parenthood “fall apart upon close inspection.”

4. The fact that far-right, anti-abortion politicians are latching onto this doesn’t make it any more credible or real.
GOP politicians remain in a race to prove who can be the worst on women’s health, and this story is no exception.

Whether it’s Carly Fiorina’s social media page or Bobby Jindal’s sham “investigation,” none of the partisan attempts to make this a real story change the fact that it’s a highly edited video from anti-abortion activists who have made false charges for years, now making claims with no basis in reality and no evidence to back them up.

5. The full, 2.5-hour video shows selective editing that twists and distorts what was said on the tape.
Late in the day, the Live Action-offshoot group released a longer video. It shows that the Planned Parenthood staffer was talking in the context of stem cell research, and was talking about standard reimbursement rates for costs associated with tissue donation — all of which was edited to change the meaning.

The 2.5-hour video also shows that the Planned Parenthood staffer’s discussion of brain stem tissue that can help researchers study brain tumors and spinal chord injuries was distorted by editing to make it appear that she was talking about trafficking body parts, which she clearly wasn’t.”


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In a statement released by Planned Parenthood on July 15, they call out the lies:

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“These outrageous claims are flat-out untrue, but that doesn’t matter to
politicians with a longstanding political agenda to ban abortion and defund
Planned Parenthood. Women and families who make the decision to donate
fetal tissue for lifesaving scientific research should be honored, not attacked and
demeaned. Our medical practices and guidelines in this area are clear, and we do
this important work just like other high-quality health care providers — with full,
appropriate consent from patients, under the highest ethical and legal standards,
and with no financial benefit for the patient or Planned Parenthood.”


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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It is sad that the extreme left, Pro-Deathers" can only express outrage at those who are trying defend and protect the dignity of Human Life.  They can't express outrage at the inhumane destruction of life that takes place in abortion.  They can't accept the REALITY - proved by science - that yes, a fertilized embryo and, later, a fetus is IN FACT a human baby.  ---- The Pro-Deathers are either stupid or believe that most people are too stupid to know enough to challenge them.  
Abortion is wrong.  Selling or "arranging for the transfer of the body parts of aborted babies to another party" is wrong.  Trying to justify the medical experimentation on aborted human babies by saying it is for a higher good or the common good is wrong.
Next thing you know -- Obama, Pelosi, Tonko and the whole Pro-Death team will try to tell us that .. hey those old people or disable people aren't really 100% human and their organs and tissues can be used better by some other people .. so let's "put them to sleep" and take their organs.   Sadly, folks like Box will fall for it .. hook, line and sinker.


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Listen at 32:40  Holy shi*  
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The Pro-Deathers are either stupid or believe that most people are too stupid to know enough to challenge them.  


they aren't stupid.........they are PURE EVIL to their core!
Let God deal with them....


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Claim:   A video shows Dr. Deborah Nucatola admitting that Planned Parenthood sells organs from aborted fetuses.
image: http://www.snopes.com/images/m/undetermined.png

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Example:     [Collected via e-mail, July 2015]

I’ve been seeing videos today supposedly showing a top doctor for Planned Parenthood bragging about selling baby parts from aborted fetuses.

This seems incredibly unlikely but I can’t find any info denying it.


Read more at http://m.snopes.com/pp-baby-parts-sale/#oiDEEOOk2ztxPtXv.99


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Box, please provide links to your quoted posts.
thank you


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