"The truth is, fetal tissue research has saved a countless amount of lives and will continue to do so. While the issue is certainly controversial, especially when it is sensationalized as ” baby body parts,” the fetal tissue of an unborn fetus would be discarded after an abortion. This way it can be used in a constructive way. Conservatives never bring up that point. Instead, they try to pervert the issue and make it seem that Planned Parenthood has a financial incentive to coerce more women to get abortions, to further an alleged black market for human baby parts. They will bend this issue frontwards and backwards until they can take a woman’s right to choose away."
I am sure that Dr. Mengele used the same argument - the medical rearch would save countless human lives - when performing his horrific experiments on death camp prisoners. I am sure that the Nazi used the same argument - the tissue would just be discarded so lets use it in a constructive way - when they turned the skin, hair and other body parts into lampshades and other "useful products." The Pro-Death movement (Pelosi, Tonko, Box, et al) will bend the issue frontwards and backwards so that they can continue to take away the Right to Life of millions of unborn human babies in the womb.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
The organs that are donated are not those of the mother. Unless the mother has two hearts are two livers. I have to check with Dr Box, but I am pretty sure those organs are from another human being.
No Cissy. Not a HUMAN BEING. The tissue is from what might some day become a human being. It is from a human zygote or a human embryo.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I asked Bumbler if this story is true... He refused to answer.
Like many of Bumbler's Right Wing Conspiracy Crazy posts... This one is NOT TRUE.
Look at Bumbler's title of this thread: "Planned Parenthood - selling fetus body parts" PP is selling nothing. The story is a lie.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I asked Bumbler if this story is true... He refused to answer.
Like many of Bumbler's Right Wing Conspiracy Crazy posts... This one is NOT TRUE.
Look at Bumbler's title of this thread: "Planned Parenthood - selling fetus body parts" PP is selling nothing. The story is a lie.
They are selling fetal organs for research - "$30 - $100". They are performing the abortion in ways to preserve the organs in return they receive money. The woman admits there is a financial transaction.
This is PURE EVIL at it's core!! It is PURE EVIL to think a woman would allow this atrocity on their unborn child. It is PURE EVIL to think people in the 'so called' medical field would delight in taking part in this atrocity. It is PURE EVIL to think there are people who 'want' body parts from a murdered unborn child.
This is the cornerstone of human civilization that has been shaken to it's core. This is a holocaust atrocity of epic proportions.
Isaiah 59:3 For your hands are defiled with blood And your fingers with iniquity; Your lips have spoken falsehood, Your tongue mutters wickedness.
God help us all!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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The Center for Medical Progress, which recorded and edited the video, says the footage proves that Planned Parenthood is breaking the law by selling fetal organs. But the video does not show Nucatola explicitly talking about selling organs. The Planned Parenthood official says the organization is “very, very sensitive” about being perceived as illegally profiting from organ sales and charges only for the cost, for instance, of shipping the tissue.
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The accusation that Planned Parenthood is illegally selling the organs of fetuses is not new among antiabortion advocates. The controversy gained national attention in 2000, after the publication of an undercover investigation by a Texas-based antiabortion group, Life Dynamics, which was also involved in Tuesday’s video release.
The FBI also investigated the Kansas clinic for any wrongdoing, but later concluded that it did not break any laws.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
This is PURE EVIL at it's core!! It is PURE EVIL to think a woman would allow this atrocity on their unborn child. It is PURE EVIL to think people in the 'so called' medical field would delight in taking part in this atrocity. It is PURE EVIL to think there are people who 'want' body parts from a murdered unborn child.
I wonder if BUMBLER knew that this story was a hoax when he posted it. I asked him if he believed the story was true... he/she still hasn't responded.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I wonder if BUMBLER knew that this story was a hoax when he posted it. I asked him if he believed the story was true... he/she still hasn't responded.
Just curious...regardless if it is a hoax, hypothetically, if this was not a staged conversation, do you see anything wrong with harvesting fetal organs in return for money?
Just curious...regardless if it is a hoax, hypothetically, if this was not a staged conversation, do you see anything wrong with harvesting fetal organs in return for money?
Yes... and it's illegal.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"These outrageous claims are flat-out untrue, but that doesn't matter to politicians with a longstanding political agenda to ban abortion and defund Planned Parenthood," said Eric Ferrero, vice president of communications at Planned Parenthood. "Women and families who make the decision to donate fetal tissue for lifesaving scientific research should be honored, not attacked and demeaned. Our medical practices and guidelines in this area are clear, and we do this important work just like other high-quality health care providers -- with full, appropriate consent from patients, under the highest ethical and legal standards, and with no financial benefit for the patient or Planned Parenthood."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
WASHINGTON (AP) — The searing political conflict over abortion flared anew Wednesday as two Republican-led House committees said they will investigate whether Planned Parenthood is selling organs from aborted fetuses.
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, criticized the group and said President Barack Obama should condemn and end the practice. Other GOP lawmakers and 2016 presidential hopefuls joined in, including some who said Congress should end federal aid to the organization.
The GOP offensive came a day after an anti-abortion group circulated a video it made secretly showing a Planned Parenthood official discussing the disposal of body parts from aborted fetuses.
"When an organization monetizes an unborn child — and with the cavalier attitude portrayed in this horrific video — we must all act," Boehner said in a brief written statement. He said Obama and Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell should "denounce, and stop, these gruesome practices."
Planned Parenthood, which provides abortions and other reproductive health services, says it legally helps women who want to make not-for-profit donations of their fetus' organs for scientific research. It says it makes no money by donating the organs to science, and says the video was heavily edited.
"These outrageous claims are flat-out untrue, but that doesn't matter to politicians with a longstanding political agenda to ban abortion and defund Planned Parenthood," Planned Parenthood spokesman Eric Ferrero said Wednesday. He said women donating fetal tissue for research "should be honored, not attacked and demeaned."
Minutes after Boehner released his statement, the House Energy and Commerce Committee said it would investigate the issue and "get to the bottom of this appalling situation." The House Judiciary Committee plans a review, too.
Republican leaders of the House Energy and Commerce Committee said the video "is abhorrent and rips at the heart," and promised to "get to the bottom of this appalling situation." Rep. Jerrold Nadler of New York, a top Democrat on the Judiciary panel, called the upcoming investigations "another witch hunt" by Republicans.
Commercial sale of human fetal tissue is illegal under federal law. Noncommercial tissue donation is allowed if the woman undergoing an abortion gives her consent.
Ferrero said Planned Parenthood guidelines for such procedures are carried out "just like other high-quality health care providers — with full, appropriate consent from patients, under the highest ethical and legal standards, and with no financial benefit for the patient or Planned Parenthood."
By early evening, the White House had not responded to requests for comment.
The video's release was a factor as GOP leaders postponed a House vote on a bill Tuesday creating a commemorative coin aimed at raising money for breast cancer research. Conservative lawmakers were angered because one of the groups that would have received the research money is the Susan G. Komen breast cancer foundation, which has affiliates that finance breast cancer services at some local Planned Parenthood clinics.
On Wednesday, the House removed the Komen group as an aid recipient and approved the legislation 421-9.
The video, made covertly last year, was produced by the Irvine, California-based Center for Medical Progress, which released it in collaboration with several national anti-abortion organizations.
It shows a lunchtime conversation between Dr. Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood's senior director of medical services, and anti-abortion activists posing as potential buyers for a human biologics company.
Nucatola is heard in the video referring to fetal hearts, lungs and livers and to efforts to retrieve these organs intact rather than crush them during an abortion procedure. She is heard giving a range of monetary estimates.
According to Planned Parenthood, Nucatola "was speculating on the range of reimbursement that affiliates can receive after patients state they wish to donate tissue after a procedure."
Among GOP presidential contenders lambasting the organization Wednesday was Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, who said, "The idea that the American taxpayers are being forced against their will to fund the sale of the body parts of unborn children is horrifying." Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said on Twitter that the video shows "why we must end federal taxpayer funding" for groups like Planned Parenthood.
Planned Parenthood receives millions annually in federal aid for family planning services that by law cannot be used for abortions.
It's not 'just a clump of cells'. It's hearts, lungs and livers and the abortionist is purposely avoiding damaging these areas for the purpose of harvesting.
It is illegal to buy or sell fetal tissue in any form.
It is also illegal to alter the timing and/or method of an abortion procedure for the sole purpose of using the tissue for research.
The video is pretty damning. It also extremely disturbing, no matter what side of the argument you are on.
And that statement from Eric Ferrero saying that it's "untrue" is hysterical. He's trying to convince you that your eyes and ears are lying to you.
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