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HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (CNN Newsource) -- An Alabama man says all he wants to do is live off the grid, but he says the city he calls home won't let him do that.

Reporter Lauren Bale has his story.


http://www.cbs6albany.com/news.....id-26400.shtml?wap=0


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This news item is about a Vet living in Alabama.  Where is the connection to New York State?


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why does it have to be NYS?????
the point is..........IT HAPPENED......PERIOD!!!


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I think this is normally the case, bt, I just don't think it comes up much because people who live in cities don't usually have an interest in going off the grid.
Also I personally believe that many people today are brainwashed into not even believing you can possibly do things for yourself. I know some people who are of the opinion that hanging your clothes out on the line is somehow dirty. Also saving scraps for compost, some people find that disgusting.
Slightly off topic, anybody know anyone who is going with that solar power company that's been going around? Solar City, I think?
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why does it have to be NYS?????
the point is..........IT HAPPENED......PERIOD!!!


The point is .. you posted under the category New York State.  I was just wondering what the connection was -- if any.


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What is the purpose of declaring that he's a veteran?

Does that make him somehow more deserving of better treatment by the government?

The term veteran was added to increase the hype.
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What is the purpose of declaring that he's a veteran?

Does that make him somehow more deserving of better treatment by the government?

The term veteran was added to increase the hype.


'I' didn't.....it was the article that did.
Question is.....can 'anyone' live off the grid?
just askin'.


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'I' didn't.....it was the article that did.
Question is.....can 'anyone' live off the grid?
just askin'.


Nope, in the new America you can't be anything other than mainstream.

He should give up and surrender to the authorities.

Apply for welfare and food stamps.

Let the government do their job.

Just how is the NSA supposed to keep us safe if people are allowed to live off the grid?

>end sarcasm mode<

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Quoted from bumblethru


'I' didn't.....it was the article that did.
Question is.....can 'anyone' live off the grid?
just askin'.


Of course they can.

http://www.realfarmacy.com/in-the-news/off-grid/

http://www.realfarmacy.com/inc.....e-in-the-wilderness/

http://www.realfarmacy.com/vancouver-secret-island-everybody-lives-offgrid/


Adversely there's this, which does support L4L's post.


http://www.realfarmacy.com/flo.....an-electricity-grid/


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As of 2013, current estimates are that 1.7 billion people in the world live off the grid.
According to Home Power Magazine, at least 180,000 families are living off the grid
in the United States and that number increases each year.


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I think this is normally the case, bt, I just don't think it comes up much because people who live in cities don't usually have an interest in going off the grid.
Also I personally believe that many people today are brainwashed into not even believing you can possibly do things for yourself. I know some people who are of the opinion that hanging your clothes out on the line is somehow dirty. Also saving scraps for compost, some people find that disgusting.
Slightly off topic, anybody know anyone who is going with that solar power company that's been going around? Solar City, I think?


its not such a hot deal you basically rent your roof to them you get credit for the power your (their) panels put into the grid.
just read the fine print a couple times.










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its not such a hot deal you basically rent your roof to them you get credit for the power your (their) panels put into the grid.
just read the fine print a couple times.


we dont have solar...but 2 people we know do....and you are correct
the way it was explained to me....
these panels collect energy that goes directly into the GRID.
the homeowner is given a credit for having panels on their roof, to collect energy FOR THE GRID.
the folks we know also pay a monthly fee of about $50-ish for the panels.
also folks need to add these panels to their homeowners insurance.
that is just some of the stuff we were told...not my own personal experience.
basically....it sounds like a scam...but i could be wrong.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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We chose Vivant Solar.  They put the panels on the house for free it cost us nothing.  The energy generated from the panels goes to the grid, and we pay a significantly reduced rate to use that power (50+% less than buying from National Grid directly).

If there's ever a need to replace the roof, they'll come in and remove the panels, store them if necessary and re-install for a one time $495 fee - which is covered by my homeowners insurance if the roof needs to be replaced because of damage.  If I use one of their contractors to replace the roof, the $495 becomes $0, and the replacement of the roof fee is guaranteed to be equal to or less than the quotes I receive.

Basically, we've paid nothing for the panels, they're keeping snow OFF the roof, we're generating more electricity than our home uses (it's cool to see the meters spinning backwards) and our electric rates are half what they were before using just National Grid.  

PLUS - this was the selling point for me - all my energy bills get a tax credit of (I think) 25% every year.  So, if my electric bills are $300/month ... x12=$3600/yr, I get a $900 cash rebate on my taxes, every year through .. I forgot, 2020?!!  Ka-Ching!

If anyone is interested, I'll gladly give you the name of my sales rep that handles Schenectady and Saratoga counties - she was awesome to work with.  I'm not getting a commission, just extremely pleased with their services!


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My sister has had solar on their detached garage for several years in Vermont.  They purchased the system (quite expensive then, but the prices have dropped
considerably since then).  Their system runs the meter backwards at 100% of the RETAIL price for electricity.  On a cold sunny winter day, they produce all, or
most of their electric needs.  The system purchase originally was subsidized by state funds.


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We chose Vivant Solar.  They put the panels on the house for free it cost us nothing.  The energy generated from the panels goes to the grid, and we pay a significantly reduced rate to use that power (50+% less than buying from National Grid directly).

If there's ever a need to replace the roof, they'll come in and remove the panels, store them if necessary and re-install for a one time $495 fee - which is covered by my homeowners insurance if the roof needs to be replaced because of damage.  If I use one of their contractors to replace the roof, the $495 becomes $0, and the replacement of the roof fee is guaranteed to be equal to or less than the quotes I receive.

Basically, we've paid nothing for the panels, they're keeping snow OFF the roof, we're generating more electricity than our home uses (it's cool to see the meters spinning backwards) and our electric rates are half what they were before using just National Grid.  

PLUS - this was the selling point for me - all my energy bills get a tax credit of (I think) 25% every year.  So, if my electric bills are $300/month ... x12=$3600/yr, I get a $900 cash rebate on my taxes, every year through .. I forgot, 2020?!!  Ka-Ching!

If anyone is interested, I'll gladly give you the name of my sales rep that handles Schenectady and Saratoga counties - she was awesome to work with.  I'm not getting a commission, just extremely pleased with their services!


Could you install a powerwall ?  http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall

Maybe you have  a no batteries allowed contract ?



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