Geez...you and box are the queens of dictionary definitions.
Again... Cicero hates it that the dictionary differs with his preferred definition of words. He even resents the 'authority' of the dictionary!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
An Oklahoma bill that passed one legislative chamber this week rewrites the state’s marriage-licensing process, and asks clergy and notaries to sign off on new marriage papers.
The change is intended to get judges and clerks out of most or all of the marriage process.
The Oklahoma House of Representatives voted Tuesday to change state law to require couples to get a marriage certificate from an authorized member of the clergy after a formal ceremony. Couples who do not wish to have a religious ceremony may get a notarized common-law marriage affidavit.
Clerks would record these documents but no longer would issue marriage licenses. Judges who wish to officiate at a marriage ceremony may do so, but would not be required to do so.
The aim of the bill is to get the government out of marriage-licensing activities and “leave marriage in the hands of the clergy,” state Sen. Todd Russ, the bill’s lead sponsor, said according to KFOR NewsChannel 4 in Oklahoma City.
The measure passed the Oklahoma House in a 67-24 vote.
It now goes to the Senate, where it is sponsored by state Sen. Anthony Sykes, chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
If enacted, the bill would go into effect on Nov. 1.
In 2004, 76 percent of Oklahoma voters approved a state constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. However, it was struck down as unconstitutional, and a 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling in 2014 legalized gay marriage in Oklahoma.
The new bill doesn’t mention same-sex marriage per se, but refers to applicants, persons, parties and “first spouse” and “second spouse” instead of brides and grooms.
Gay rights groups, such as Oklahomans for Equality and Freedom Oklahoma, and their allies have opposed the bill, saying the recorded certificates and “common-law marriage” affidavits might not be accepted as proper marriage licenses by other states or the federal government.
The state needs to be involved in the marriage-licensing process, state Rep. Emily Virgin said, according to News9.com in Oklahoma.
“Marriage was historically a religious covenant first and a government-recognized contract second,” Mr. Russ said, according to KFOR NewsChannel 4.
“Under my bill, the state is not allowing or disallowing same-sex marriage. It is simply leaving it up to the clergy,” he said.
The Oklahoma bill would “accomplish two things,” said the Tenth Amendment Center, an organization in Los Angeles that seeks to preserve and defend the 10th Amendment of the Constitution.
“First, it would render void the edicts of federal judges” who have overturned state marriage laws, the center said.
Second, it would get the state government “out of defining marriage” and end “the squabble between factions that seek to harness the power of the state.”
Once the state is removed from the equation, the center added, “no one can force another to accept their marriage, nor can they force another to reject that person’s own beliefs regarding an institution older than government.”
Geez...you and box are the queens of dictionary definitions.
Below is what you are the WORST at.
con·ver·sa·tion·al·ist ˌkänvərˈsāSHən(ə)ləst/ noun a person who is good at or fond of engaging in conversation.
BWAHAHAHAH...exactly what I expected from the QUEEN DWEEB of the forum. Useless banter to deflect from Sissy-poo...never mans up... ummmmm, might be a reason for that one!!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAH...exactly what I expected from the QUEEN DWEEB of the forum. Useless banter to deflect from Sissy-poo...never mans up... ummmmm, might be a reason for that one!!!!
LOL! Even when I respond directly to Joeppi's posts, he still says it's "deflection". BWAHAHAHAHA!!
Thanks for the evidence of WORST CONVERSATIONALIST on the forum.
LOL! Even when I respond directly to Joeppi's posts, he still says it's "deflection". BWAHAHAHAHA!!
Thanks for the evidence of WORST CONVERSATIONALIST on the forum.
CONVERSATIONALIST noun 1. a person who enjoys and contributes to good conversation; (Huh! Not Cicero) an interesting person in conversation. (Again, not him)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
LOL! Even when I respond directly to Joeppi's posts, he still says it's "deflection". BWAHAHAHAHA!!
Thanks for the evidence of WORST CONVERSATIONALIST on the forum.
RESPOND DIRECTLY...REALLY???? Wow, Sissy has applied another Sissy definition because the Queen Dweeb has not directly responded at all....question was simple and Sissy doesn't answer... SO WHICH IS IT???
any of the diverse forms of interpersonal union established in various parts of the world to form a familial bond that is recognized legally, religiously, or socially, granting the participating partners mutual conjugal rights and responsibilities and including, for example, opposite-sex marriage, same-sex marriage, plural marriage, and arranged marriage
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
RESPOND DIRECTLY...REALLY???? Wow, Sissy has applied another Sissy definition because the Queen Dweeb has not directly responded at all....question was simple and Sissy doesn't answer... SO WHICH IS IT??? OR IS IT:
any of the diverse forms of interpersonal union established in various parts of the world to form a familial bond that is recognized legally, religiously, or socially, granting the participating partners mutual conjugal rights and responsibilities and including, for example, opposite-sex marriage, same-sex marriage, plural marriage, and arranged marriage
I already answered. Based on the bible(which is what box posted) it's a religious ceremony, not a state license. If you are against same sex marriage licensing because of your belief in the bible, you shouldn't give two shits because a Christian marriage is between 3 parties, the bride, the groom, and God. A same sex marriage license issued by the state doesn't make a same sex Union anymore legitimate to a Christian. You can switch your Chevy hood orniment with a Ford orniment and call your Camaro a Mustang too, it doesn't make it so.
I know you want to forget about what box posted to remove all context, but most people that have conversations understand the importance of context. You have some sort of social retardation that prevents you from picking up the context of a conversations.
I already answered. Based on the bible(which is what box posted) it's a religious ceremony, not a state license. If you are against same sex marriage licensing because of your belief in the bible, you shouldn't give two shits because a Christian marriage is between 3 parties, the bride, the groom, and God. A same sex marriage license issued by the state doesn't make a same sex Union anymore legitimate to a Christian. You can switch your Chevy hood orniment with a Ford orniment and call your Camaro a Mustang too, it doesn't make it so.
I know you want to forget about what box posted to remove all context, but most people that have conversations understand the importance of context. You have some sort of social retardation that prevents you from picking up the context of a conversations.
"retardation"...coming from a low life scumbag like you, I would expect no less. You love hiding in cyberspace with your childish names and ignorant positions...but you avoid all of this in a public setting...shows just how much of a coward and cyber-bully you really are. Enjoy your pathetic sick demented life.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
"retardation"...coming from a low life scumbag like you, I would expect no less.
It's a medical term for your comprehension and context problem. Medical terms offend you?
Hey...BTW, marriage is a religious ceremony for Christian, not a state issued license.
Mental Retardation :subaverage intellectual ability equivalent to or less than an IQ of 70 that is accompanied by significant deficits in abilities (as in communication or self-care) necessary for independent daily functioning, is present from birth or infancy, and is manifested especially by delayed or abnormal development, by learning difficulties, and by problems in social adjustment
It's a medical term for your comprehension and context problem. Medical terms offend you?
Hey...BTW, marriage is a religious ceremony for Christian, not a state issued license.
Mental Retardation :subaverage intellectual ability equivalent to or less than an IQ of 70 that is accompanied by significant deficits in abilities (as in communication or self-care) necessary for independent daily functioning, is present from birth or infancy, and is manifested especially by delayed or abnormal development, by learning difficulties, and by problems in social adjustment
Queen Jackass continues her ignorant useless low life scumbag rants. Childish immature ignorance are Sissy-Wah-Wah's strong points...and that's it. Maybe if Sissy had stayed in school and gotten an actual degree there may have been some symptom of intelligence...but that was not to be and we are stuck with Sissy the cyber DUHmb DUHmb, poster child of mental deficiency.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
I haven't been on this board in five years and you all still have the same heads. Grow.....how the heck does gay marriage affect your life? It doesn't. What do any of you care what someone is doing in the privacy of their own residence?
I haven't been on this board in five years and you all still have the same heads. Grow.....how the heck does gay marriage affect your life? It doesn't. What do any of you care what someone is doing in the privacy of their own residence?
I agree with you. It doesn't affect my life...that's why I'm shocked the government feels the need to issue licenses(permit) to same sex or opposite sex couples. Quite intrusive.
I agree with you. It doesn't affect my life...that's why I'm shocked the government feels the need to issue licenses(permit) to same sex or opposite sex couples. Quite intrusive.
No Cissy... the question is about "gay marriage" you oppose the state being involved in any marriage, straight or gay.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
No Cissy... the question is about "gay marriage" you oppose the state being involved in any marriage, straight or gay.
Yeah...So, what's the problem?
Why does the state have to be involved in marriage at all?
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
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