I guess you didn't read the part of my post that said EXEMPTIONS
Exempt taxes on the poor below a certain income..or a sliding scale, make the VAT universal on for-profit businesses. How do you tell who is poor when buying something? With a government issued tax status card...
There are MANY ways to implement this successfully, but I guess it's easier to use the ridiculously complicated IRS process and b$tch about the rich...
Yadda Yadda Yadda... the poor spend all their income. If from the govt or from a low paying job. The Rich are not taxed on their income... so a billionaire who makes his $$$ in the USA but spends his $$$ abroad will pay almost nothing. Now for the real losers... The Middle Class... will pay the taxes now paid by rich.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yadda Yadda Yadda... the poor spend all their income. If from the govt or from a low paying job. The Rich are not taxed on their income... so a billionaire who makes his $$$ in the USA but spends his $$$ abroad will pay almost nothing. Now for the real losers... The Middle Class... will pay the taxes now paid by rich.
Import tax or duty at the rate of the VAT plus 10%...There are always to combat it...
Box, you crack me up, for such a progressive, you are stuck in the mud when it comes to certain things.. Lets just keep the same old bureaucratic IRS, and I can guess you are in complete agreement with the NEA that the only thing wrong with our education system is lack of money...all the while, the countries that are miles ahead of us in achievement do it with less money per student, even when figuring cost of living.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Import tax or duty at the rate of the VAT plus 10%...There are always to combat it...
Box, you crack me up, for such a progressive, you are stuck in the mud when it comes to certain things.. Lets just keep the same old bureaucratic IRS, and I can guess you are in complete agreement with the NEA that the only thing wrong with our education system is lack of money...all the while, the countries that are miles ahead of us in achievement do it with less money per student, even when figuring cost of living.
Bucky suddenly jumped ship on his VAT issue...
I am open to any reasonable tax plan that is progressive, taxing those who make the most (and often use the most of our taxes) to pay the most. The poor or near poor should pay no or low taxes. Those with the highest incomes should pay at a higher rate than the poor or middle class.
Then Buck blows smoke up the boards @ss with another diversion from HIS topic with: "I can guess you are in complete agreement with the NEA".
Give it up Bucky...
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
It doesn't matter who gets taxed, it rolls down to the middle and poor classes anyways. If the "rich" get taxed, then the poor and middle class will see a reduction of pay and benefits. It's government spending as a percentage of GDP is what squeezes money from the poor and middle classes. They always pay, either directly(through taxation)or indirectly(through wages). The tax the rich rhetoric is to distract people from the real culprit - government spending.
I am open to any reasonable tax plan that is progressive, taxing those who make the most (and often use the most of our taxes) to pay the most. The poor or near poor should pay no or low taxes. Those with the highest incomes should pay at a higher rate than the poor or middle class.
Then Buck blows smoke up the boards @ss with another diversion from HIS topic with: "I can guess you are in complete agreement with the NEA".
Give it up Bucky...
Boxy, whatever Alzheimer's drug you're on, up the dosage...I'm not Bucky...and at the same time, take a Valium... you're overwrought.
I guess I hit a nerve with the NEA... Boxy, you ARE predictable... All I have to read is the DNC platform and I've got you down to a "T"
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
Boxy, whatever Alzheimer's drug you're on, up the dosage...I'm not Bucky...and at the same time, take a Valium... you're overwrought.
I guess I hit a nerve with the NEA... Boxy, you ARE predictable... All I have to read is the DNC platform and I've got you down to a "T"
Ah yes. I should up the dosage. Tbird/Bucky seem to be one in the same.
I'm glad that you are up on the latest from the DNC and the NEA. I have not read any of it as yet.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Ah yes. I should up the dosage. Tbird/Bucky seem to be one in the same.
I'm glad that you are up on the latest from the DNC and the NEA. I have not read any of it as yet.
Sure...Just like DV and Alva...in your words, Yadda Yadda Yadda...
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
I am open to any reasonable tax plan that is progressive, taxing those who make the most (and often use the most of our taxes) to pay the most. The poor or near poor should pay no or low taxes. Those with the highest incomes should pay at a higher rate than the poor or middle class.
Then Buck blows smoke up the boards @ss with another diversion from HIS topic with: "I can guess you are in complete agreement with the NEA".
Give it up Bucky...
WTF are you going on about? VAT?
Since when have I ever mentioned VAT?
Are you ok? You seem a bit disturbed.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
Cicero, you seem a bit confused. Government spending comes from that free government money. Taxes are what you owe the government 'just because'. I'll give you an example. Here in Schenectady, people are losing their houses because they couldn't pay their taxes. The mayor blames the school district, but the school district provides something for the taxes they receive, while the city can choose not to. Why? Because you owe the city your money 'just because'. Does that clear things up?
Jeb Bush Advocates Raising Social Security Age To 70
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Jeb Bush Advocates Raising Social Security Age To 70
That certainly won't impact his generation. Just like Obamacare, transferring the costs of the boomer generation onto their children and grandchildren.
Um... Cissy. Jeb is 62. How could it NOT impact HIS GENERATION? If passed, Jeb's contemporaries just had another 3 or 5 years stolen from their retirement.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
There are few policies as popular with politicians, but unpopular with voters, as raising Social Security's retirement age. It's a perennial feature of bipartisan budget negotiations — the Simpson-Bowles report proposed it, for instance — and both Jeb Bush and Chris Christie have endorsed it. If establishment Washington has a platform, raising the Social Security retirement age is squarely at its core.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Um... Cissy. Jeb is 62. How could it NOT impact HIS GENERATION? If passed, Jeb's contemporaries just had another 3 or 5 years stolen from their retirement.
Um...read the actual transcripts of Bush's plan.
Quoted Text
BUSH: I think it needs to be phased in over an extended period of time. I have seen ideas that are 68, for example.
So people that already have the supplemental retirement system, which is a contract, I don't think we violate that. For people that are about ready to be beneficiaries of their supplemental retirement, I don't think we change that.
But we need to look over the horizon and begin to phase in over an extended period of time going from 65 to 68 or 70. And that by itself will help sustain the retirement system for anybody under the age of 40.
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