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bumblethru
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News reporters need to be reminded that they 'report the news'!
They aren't movie stars!
They aren't political figures or religious leaders!
They also should be reminded that they 'should be' investigative reporters....journalists!
And this is why I don't watch ANY of them!!!




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Debate brews over whether Williams can survive controversy
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NEW YORK (AP) — A vigorous debate over Brian Williams' future is brewing as "NBC Nightly News" aired Monday without the decade-long anchor.


Some critics suggest that Williams, who apologized last week for falsely claiming that he was in a helicopter that had been hit by a grenade while in Iraq in 2003, should be fired. Others wonder if commerce will win out, since Williams has kept "Nightly News" at the top of the ratings while much of his news division crumbled around him. How much are the years of good work worth?

"This is one of the toughest calls that I've ever seen," said Paul Levinson, professor of communications and media studies at Fordham University. "On the one hand, the public is right to expect nothing but the truth from our reporters and our news anchors."

Williams announced Saturday he was stepping away from the show for a few days. NBC News, which launched an internal probe, hasn't given a timetable for how long its look into Williams' statements, coordinated by the division's investigative editor Richard Esposito, will take or if its report will be made public.

Williams' sub, Lester Holt, told viewers midway through Monday's broadcast that Williams had taken himself off the air because questions have been raised about how he recalled several stories. Holt did not specify what the stories or questions were.

"He'll be off while this issue is dealt with," Holt said.

Levinson pointed out that this isn't a case of someone deliberately inventing news sources or, in the case of Dan Rather at CBS a decade ago, reporting during a presidential campaign a story casting doubt on President George W. Bush's wartime record that could not be backed up.

"The real difficulty for a news organization, or a reporter, is that once you've made one misstep, it's really hard to earn (trust) back," said David Westin, former ABC News president. "You can. But it takes a lot of time."

The incident should remind news organizations that it's more important to report the news than "brand" their personalities, he said.


More than 1,000 comments were posted to NBC's "Nightly News" Facebook page. The majority supported Williams, with some posters suggesting they wouldn't watch the broadcast until he returned. But some commenters said they wouldn't trust him again.

Williams took a pounding in the ratings for his final night on the air Friday, but it's unclear whether the drop in viewership was related to the controversy.

The Nielsen ratings company said ABC's "World News Tonight" had 8.46 million viewers on Friday, while NBC's "Nightly News" had just under 8 million.

For this television season as a whole, Williams' newscast has led in the ratings by an average of roughly 600,000 viewers each night over ABC.

On Thursday, the night after Williams' apology, NBC beat ABC by about 800,000 viewers, Nielsen said.

Although NBC leads in the ratings this season as it has for much of the past decade, ABC's broadcast with David Muir does win occasional nights. ABC has beaten NBC on nine nights since the beginning of the TV season in September, six of them Friday nights, which in general is NBC's weakest evening. On the Friday before Williams made his admission, ABC won by 400,000 viewers.

Meanwhile, another instance emerged of Williams appearing to embellish a wartime reporting experience.

Williams traveled to Israel in July 2006 to cover that country's military campaign against Hezbollah. The anchor reported on MSNBC that he flew in a Black Hawk helicopter with Israeli military officials at a height of 1,500 feet. He said he saw a trail of smoke and dust where Katyusha rockets had landed in the uninhabited Israeli countryside. Then, he said he witnessed two rockets being launched toward Israel some 6 miles from where he was flying, according to the network transcript.

In an interview at Fairfield University more than a year later, Williams said Katyusha rockets passed "just underneath the helicopter I was riding in," according to a film of the interview, described in The Washington Post on Monday.

Williams was even more descriptive in an August 2006 appearance with Jon Stewart on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show."

"Here's a view of rockets I have never seen, passing underneath us, 1,500 feet beneath us," Williams said. "And we've got the gunner doors on this thing, and I'm saying to the general, some four-star, 'It wouldn't take much for them to adjust the aim and try to do a ring toss right through our open doors, would it?'"

Also Monday, the newspaper Stars and Stripes released a transcript of its interview with Williams last week, made before his apology, in which he attempted to explain his story. Williams was asked about a claim by military involved in the 2003 Iraq mission that his helicopter was flying about an hour behind the Chinook helicopter that had been hit by the rocket-propelled grenade.

Williams said it was the first he'd heard of that.

"I could not see in front of us, and I thought we were just in one flotilla, for lack of a better word," he said.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Hillary did the exact same thing as Williams.

How come Williams is being held to a higher standard than Hillary?




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Quoted from BuckStrider
Hillary did the exact same thing as Williams.

How come Williams is being held to a higher standard than Hillary?


Because politicians are expected to be liars!  


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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what about the WMD?????
people actually died for that one!!!
It would be a pipe dream....but WHO CAN YOU BELIEVE these days???


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Star power/personality is developed today to represent the media.   They are a commodity to be promoted to be used to sell a product.   More attraction to the reporter/newscast results in more viewership.   Increased viewership leads to higher rates to be charged for the ads.   As usual, follow the $$$.   Whats most annoying (unethical?) is when a reporter injects their view/philosphy into the story they are reporting on.   Injecting editorial license when all that is required is for them to report the story.   This is done repeatdly by our local news media.   Their duty is to report the facts as they know them and to let the viewing public come to their own conclusions/determinations in regard to the news that is reported.   Wonder what Waler Cronkite would think of all this self promotion.
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Quoted from joebxr


Because politicians are expected to be liars!  


BINGO!!!!!


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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it was stated to me a very LONG time ago froma very good surce........you will never hear the truth as it is.....

as far as I am concerned I have always maintaned the thought that the news media is holding hands with the government and the celebreties are just

smoke to the real truth.....

Williams should be fired.....Hillary brought to justice......Congress ousted......along with the leaders of this country....

When are we going to take care of our own ....and WITH THE TRUTH.....
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