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mikechristine1
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we have a friend who's daughter lives with her. The daughter will inherit the home when the mom dies.

and even tho it is still in the mom's name....the daughter is responsible for ALL the bills/taxes/fees...etc.

so even tho the daughter is not an actual homeowner...yet......she is paying all of the bills/taxes/fees.



A deed establishes ownership.  If the daughter's name is NOT on the deed, the daughter is in no way responsible for bills/taxes/fees, etc.   Not even under an L.E.

Can you cite the law that makes the daughter responsible


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A deed establishes ownership.  If the daughter's name is NOT on the deed, the daughter is in no way responsible for bills/taxes/fees, etc.   Not even under an L.E.

Can you cite the law that makes the daughter responsible


Of course she pays the bills!!!! It's the mom and daughter's agreement. The daughter gets the home (in the will), and the daughter pays the bills....since she lives there with her mom.  Sure...the taxbill, nat'l grid bill blah blah blah come in in the mom's name....but the DAUGHTER pays them! TRUTH!!

Now here it is in reverse...another friend of ours..she's a widow....she gave the home to both of her daughters. Both daughter's names are on the deed/tax bills. ....HOWEVER....the mother still lives in the house, until she dies, and the MOTHER pays the taxes/bills etc. The mother did this in case she ends up in a nursing home, they couldn't take the house and she would have something to leave her girls. (the daughters do NOT live in the house...they just own it) TRUTH!!

these things are done everyday!!


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You are paying for the brush service, just 50 bucks less than those using it.  


The service should be eliminated completely.  Then the fee would be eliminated and this ridiculous debate would be over.


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So lets get rid of the RPD and have the State Police patrol Rotterdam as well!


I don't happen to think that is a good idea.  However, if you think it is a good idea than you should start a petition drive and work towards that goal.  Just don't hold your breath waiting for me to sign your petition.


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The service should be eliminated completely.  Then the fee would be eliminated and this ridiculous debate would be over.




Listen, your two mommies have a lavish income that they can more than afford it the fee, really, not even eligible for the senior STAR exemption.  

But can you provide an answer what other people are supposed to do?  Would you care to explain how people, especially the elderly and disabled are supposed to carry heavy yard waste bags and squeeze the into a car to take them to the compost facility?  

Well, do you have an answer to that???????   Of course not, as you don't own a home nor pay taxes, you are speechless

Most people do NOT want to just mow their lawns because the weed seed goes back into the lawn and grows more weeds which is mowed and back on the lawn.   And leaves?  If you have lots of trees, you have no place to put the leaves and you CANNOT leave the mowed or unmowed leaves on the ground all winter.  See, your two mommies have a large enough area, no houses boarding the property on all three sides, so since they hire out to have professionals mow, they can dump piles in the kind of wooded areas bordering your two mommies' house.   now can you please state where most people are supposed to put their mowed leaves.  

And where do people put their weed clippings?



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Listen, your two mommies have a lavish income that they can more than afford it the fee, really, not even eligible for the senior STAR exemption.  

But can you provide an answer what other people are supposed to do?  Would you care to explain how people, especially the elderly and disabled are supposed to carry heavy yard waste bags and squeeze the into a car to take them to the compost facility?  

Well, do you have an answer to that???????   Of course not, as you don't own a home nor pay taxes, you are speechless

Most people do NOT want to just mow their lawns because the weed seed goes back into the lawn and grows more weeds which is mowed and back on the lawn.   And leaves?  If you have lots of trees, you have no place to put the leaves and you CANNOT leave the mowed or unmowed leaves on the ground all winter.  See, your two mommies have a large enough area, no houses boarding the property on all three sides, so since they hire out to have professionals mow, they can dump piles in the kind of wooded areas bordering your two mommies' house.   now can you please state where most people are supposed to put their mowed leaves.  

And where do people put their weed clippings?



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Listen, your two mommies have a lavish income that they can more than afford it the fee, really, not even eligible for the senior STAR exemption.  

But can you provide an answer what other people are supposed to do?  Would you care to explain how people, especially the elderly and disabled are supposed to carry heavy yard waste bags and squeeze the into a car to take them to the compost facility?  

Well, do you have an answer to that???????   Of course not, as you don't own a home nor pay taxes, you are speechless

Most people do NOT want to just mow their lawns because the weed seed goes back into the lawn and grows more weeds which is mowed and back on the lawn.   And leaves?  If you have lots of trees, you have no place to put the leaves and you CANNOT leave the mowed or unmowed leaves on the ground all winter.  See, your two mommies have a large enough area, no houses boarding the property on all three sides, so since they hire out to have professionals mow, they can dump piles in the kind of wooded areas bordering your two mommies' house.   now can you please state where most people are supposed to put their mowed leaves.  

And where do people put their weed clippings?



you are showing your democratic liberal side now. DVOR is sounding more like a conservative rep.
the dem party is all about the poor seniors and the disabled and that they need to take care of them!
ya can't have it both ways mc1.....either you pay taxes (and they set that cost) for the government to take care of you.....or you take care of yourself.
you are more of a dem than you think you are mc1 and dvor is more of a conservative than you are....well that's the way it's sounding.


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BT....why is that??????????.....never heard of that unless the daughter has agreed to be responsible......
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BT....why is that??????????.....never heard of that unless the daughter has agreed to be responsible......


the daughter will inherit the house. so in return, the daughter feels it's fair that she pays the bills and takes care of mom.

it is a win-win for both of them.

I personally think it's a great arrangement for both of them!!


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So lets get rid of the RPD and have the State Police patrol Rotterdam as well!


that would not be good for members of the 8 fire districts, Elks club and some club on hamburg st

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you are showing your democratic liberal side now. DVOR is sounding more like a conservative rep.  dvor is more of a conservative than you are....well that's the way it's sounding.


That is because I have ALWAYS been a conservative Democrat -- and proud of it.  



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That is because I have ALWAYS been a conservative Democrat -- and proud of it.  




ROFLMAO ! ! !     



Yeh, sure.    NOT fiscally conservative in the least bit.    

NON STOP spending of taxpayer dollars.  

WILD and UNCONTROLLED spending of taxpayer dollars.

STEAL from the financially struggling homeowners who are can barely afford to replace lightbulbs in their home and spend the money on UN-NECESSARY STUPID fancy light poles in the millionaires district downtown.

STEAL from long time TAXPAYING businesses downtown and give the money to millionaire political cronies of his buddy democrats (won't even remotely support him in an election        NO ONE wants him, not the politicians.   NOT even a woman--no woman wants a mamas' boy who is not an independent adult at 50+ years old

Take from the poor and give to the rich political conies.


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BT...thanks....for clarification....agree....
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Brad the OCD Realtor strikes again.


LMAO.  Yep, about what I figured.


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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the daughter will inherit the house. so in return, the daughter feels it's fair that she pays the bills and takes care of mom.

it is a win-win for both of them.

I personally think it's a great arrangement for both of them!!




That's fine, but the daughter is NOT the owner of the house, the daughter is NOT eligible to deduct taxes from her tax return.  

But who is the one eligible for STAR Senior tax exemption?   If mama is eligible for senior STAR and often senior aged (low income) tax exemptions, daughter is not paying much in taxes.   And that can be an issue.   Mama's name is the only one on the deed, her income could be $20,000 making her eligible for the low income exemptions, but daughter might have an income of $100,000.


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