and the lame stream media doesn't help the situation either!!!
If the officer was black or Michael Brown was white, this would be just another state sanctioned legal homicide. Make sure you focus on the race, not legalized homicide for state agents.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
it's clear that the people have already become the 'enemy of the state'!! that is ONLY since the cops have become 'out of control'!! people are fed up!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I just love Bumbler's sources: William "Bill" Adama (callsign "Husker") is a fictional character portrayed by Edward James Olmos in the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica television series produced and aired by the SyFy cable network.
Much of bumbler's life seems to from the SyFy network!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I just love Bumbler's sources: William "Bill" Adama (callsign "Husker") is a fictional character portrayed by Edward James Olmos in the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica television series produced and aired by the SyFy cable network.
Much of bumbler's life seems to from the SyFy network!
science 'fiction' is more real in your lifetime than climate change will ever be....because you'll be dead before the climate change affects you.....
philip k dick.....had more premonition than your pink finger when you pick your nose....
science 'fiction' has the ability to chew on new technologies/the state and human response to them, in a conversation that is able to break apart both sides of your mind......that is if one is able to allow themselves the freedom to see for themselves instead of just eating the canned ham served on the state's plate.
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele criticized grand jury decisions to not indict white police officers in the deaths of black men in New York and Ferguson, MO, The Hill reports.
Said Steele: “They tell us, at least, a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich. Well clearly a black man’s life is not worth a ham sandwich when you put these stories together. And that is the frustration.”
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
what's even stranger is that both of them were killed over tobacco products and the 'illegal' handling of them.....
so now the police are our 'healthcare' managers and tax collectors......FU(KING PRICELESS.....
the government making sure they are protecting the sh!t out of the taxpayers by protecting big business(tobacco companies) and the state's tax collection....
SOUNDS LIKE THE KING/QUEEN OF OLD....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
this ain't just happening in Cleveland....it's happening ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!!
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US: Cleveland police poorly trained, reckless
Associated Press By MARK GILLISPIE 52 minutes ago
CLEVELAND (AP) — The U.S. Justice Department and Cleveland reached an agreement Thursday to overhaul the city's police department after federal investigators concluded that officers use excessive and unnecessary force far too often and have endangered the public and their fellow officers with their recklessness.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Phoenix police shooting is latest to ignite outcry By TERRY TANG, Associated Press | December 4, 2014 | Updated: December 4, 2014 6:17pm
PHOENIX (AP) — The deadly shooting of a black, unarmed drug suspect by a white Phoenix police officer who mistook a pill bottle for a gun demonstrates the challenges law enforcement agencies face at a time of unrest over police tactics.
Phoenix police say the officer feared the suspect was armed during their struggle, but some critics say the officer went too far. Despite the department's efforts to be transparent with information, protesters planned a vigil and march Thursday night against the fatal shooting of 34-year-old Rumain Brisbon.
The police chief and top prosecutor in metro Phoenix met with the president of the NAACP's Maricopa County Branch and other civil rights leaders in the hours after the incident, which came as emotions are running high in New York, Missouri and elsewhere over what protesters call heavy-handed law enforcement efforts.
The NAACP official, the Rev. Oscar Tillman, said friends and family members of Brisbon are devastated. He cautioned them about channeling their anger as the investigation into the shooting unfolds.
"I told them not to be openly explosive or whatever because the fact is ... as you can see what happened to Michael Brown's (stepfather) now. They're talking about going after him. I said 'just be very careful,'" Tillman said.
According to Sgt. Trent Crump, the officer responded Tuesday to reports of someone selling drugs out of a Cadillac SUV. Upon locating the SUV, he ordered Brisbon, the sole occupant, to show his hands.
Authorities say Brisbon ran inside an apartment building and then got into a struggle with the officer. Brisbon put his hand in his pocket, and when the officer grabbed the hand, he thought he felt the handle of a gun through Brisbon's pants, police said.
Police say the officer repeatedly told Brisbon to keep his hand in his pocket, then shot him twice when he didn't.
Brisbon, an ex-convict, was hit in the torso and later pronounced dead at the scene. Investigators recovered a semi-automatic handgun and a jar of marijuana from his SUV.
An internal investigation is already underway, Crump said Thursday. The Maricopa County attorney's office will determine whether the officer will face criminal charges. Police did not identify the 30-year-old officer but said he is a seven-year veteran of the department.
Marci Kratter, an attorney representing Brisbon's family, said she was unable to immediately comment when reached Thursday.
The Phoenix shooting occurred the day before a grand jury in New York City decided not to indict a white police officer in the chokehold death of a black man. Video shows Eric Garner repeatedly gasped "I can't breathe" while Officer Daniel Pantaleo detained him in a chokehold. Dozens of protesters were arrested on New York streets Wednesday, police said.
A grand jury decided Nov. 24 not to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson in the shooting death of unarmed teenager Brown. The decision sparked violent protests, lootings and the destruction of several businesses.
Gerald Richard, an assistant to the Phoenix police chief who oversees police-community relations, said he began reaching out to community leaders after Brisbon was killed, but not because of the events in Missouri, he said.
"It is better for individuals to know the facts as opposed to be going off of rumors and hunches," Richard said. "I sincerely believe that type of communication is vital."
Tillman said he was appreciative that he was able to get a meeting with Chief Daniel Garcia as well as a call from County Attorney Bill Montgomery.
"That says something in a community when you're able to, bright and early less than 12 hours after it happened, sit down with the police chief and his top staff and communicate with the county attorney."
However, he called on the Phoenix mayor, city manager and other officials to also start a dialogue with black community members. He said he is hoping to speak with witnesses to decide whether he thinks the shooting was justified.
"That's what needs to be done, because the fact is, as we can see across this country, if we don't deal with it, we're going to keep dealing with it," Tillman said.
The Cleveland Cops Who Fired 137 Shots and Cried Victim They unleashed a hail of bullets to rival the final scene in ‘Bonnie and Clyde.’ But the man and women killed in 2012 were unarmed—and now these cops are claiming racial discrimination.
Nine of the 13 Cleveland cops who fired 137 shots at two apparently unarmed black civilians following a high-speed chase in 2012 have filed a federal lawsuit saying they are victims of racial discrimination.
Really.
Eight of the aggrieved cops are white. The ninth is Hispanic. They charge that the city of Cleveland has “a history of treating non-African American officers involved in the shootings of African Americans substantially harsher than African-American officers.”
As if their race was the deciding factor in the cops being kept on restricted duty for 16 months after a backfire mistaken for a gunshot and an ensuing cross-town chase led to police firing nearly as many shots at the unarmed Melissa Williams and Timothy Russell as were unleashed upon Bonnie and Clyde in their famous final shootout—leaving Melissa with 24 gunshot wounds to Bonnie’s 23 and Timothy with 23 to Clyde’s 25.
Replay the last scene of the movie Bonnie and Clyde in your mind, only replace the decidedly armed and deadly pair with a homeless duo armed with nothing in the car besides a couple of crack pipes and an empty Coca-Cola can.
The Cleveland Nine should count themselves lucky that they were returned to full duty after 16 months.
Just imagine if one of them had been the cop who fatally shot a black 12-year-old named Tamir Rice after he flashed a realistic looking toy gun in a Cleveland park late last month.
There is already a damning common denominator between the two shootings: the Cleveland police department itself.
After the 2012 shooting, an investigation by the Ohio Attorney General’s Office found the department far more to blame than the individual cops.
And some of the same failures in communication and tactics seem to have played a major role in the more recent tragedy involving young Tamir.
In announcing the results of his investigation into the 2012 deaths, Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine did make clear that no report would have been necessary if Russell had not sped wildly away from police in his 1979 Malibu with Williams at his side, reaching speeds in excess of 100 miles per hour. Russell had been pulled over for the most minor of traffic violations by a cop who had a hunch that he and Williams had been buying drugs.
“To state the obvious, the chase would have ended without tragic results if Timothy Russell had simply stopped the car in response to the police pursuit,” DeWine said as he released the report in February 2013. “Perhaps the alcohol and cocaine in his system impaired his judgment. We will never know.”
DeWine went on: “We do know that each officer at the scene believed he or she was dealing with a driver who had fled law enforcement. They each also believed they were dealing with a passenger who was brandishing a gun—and that the gun had been fired at a police officer. It is now clear that those last two beliefs were likely not true.”
He said something that applies to cops of whatever race in whatever jurisdiction.
“Police officers have a very difficult job. They must make life and death decisions in a split second based on whatever information they have in that moment. But when you have an emergency, like what happened that night, the system has to be strong enough to override subjective decisions made by individuals who are under that extreme stress.”
He continued: “Policy, training, communications, and command have to be so strong and so ingrained to prevent subjective judgment from spiraling out of control. The system has to take over and put on the brakes.”
As it was, the chase was accompanied and spurred on by apparently erroneous radio reports of the occupants firing and reloading a gun. And it all culminated in a middle-school parking lot with the cops mistaking gunfire from other cops as coming from inside the suspect’s car and blazing away as if they had encountered a modern day Bonnie and Clyde rather than just unarmed Melissa and Timothy.
“We are dealing with a systematic failure in the Cleveland Police Department,” DeWine concluded. “Command failed. Communications failed. The system failed.”
After such an indictment, you would expect the department to do all it could to remedy such failings. And that should have prominently included communications. A test came with a phone call to 911 on Nov. 22.
Dispatcher: “Cleveland Police…”
Caller: “Hey, how are you?”
Dispatcher: “Good.”
Caller: “I’m sitting in the park… by the West Boulevard rapid transit station and there’s a guy and like a pistol, you know. It’s probably fake, but he’s like pointing it at everybody.”
Dispatcher: “And where are you at, sir?”
Caller: “I’m sitting in the park at West Cudell, West Boulevard by the West Boulevard rapid transit station.”
Dispatcher: “So, you’re at the rapid station. Are you are the rapid station?”
Caller: “No, I’m sitting across the street at the park.”
Dispatcher: “What’s the name of the park, Cudell?”
Caller: “Cudell, yes. The guy keeps pulling it in and out of his pan… it’s probably fake, but you know what, he’s scaring…
Dispatcher: “What does he look like?”
Caller: “He has a camouflage hat on.”
Dispatcher: “Is he black or white?”
Caller: “He has a gray, gray coat with black sleeves and gray pants on.”
Dispatcher: “Is he black or white?”
Caller: “I’m sorry?”
Dispatcher: “Is he black or white?”
Caller: “He’s black.”
Dispatcher: “He’s got a camo jacket and gray pants?
Caller: “No, he has a camo hat on. You know what that is?...”
Dispatcher: “Yeah.”
Caller: “…Desert storm. And his jacket is gray and it’s got black sleeves on it. He’s sitting on the swing right now. He’s pulling it out of his pants and pointing it at people. He’s probably a juvenile, you know?”
Silence.
Caller: “Hello?”
Dispatcher: “Do you have a gun?”
Caller: “No, I do no not. I’m getting ready to leave, but you know what, he’s right nearby, you know, the youth center or whatever and he’s pulling it in and out of his pants. I don’t know if it’s real or not.”
Dispatcher: “OK, we’ll send a car there, thank you.”
Caller: “Thank you.”
A car was indeed dispatched, with no mention that the suspect was possibly a juvenile and that the gun might be a toy.
Dispatcher: "In the park by the youth center, there’s a black male sitting on the swings. He’s wearing a camouflage hat, a gray jacket with black sleeves. He keeps pulling a gun out of his pants and pointing it at people.”
A surveillance video shows the radio car driving directly into the park, just feet from the youngster. A white rookie cop named Timothy Loehmann was in the passenger seat and police would later insist that he repeatedly instructed Tamir Rice through the lowered window to raise his hands.
If that is so, Loehmann must have been shouting that even as the car was rolling up, for two seconds pass before the startled Tamir is fatally shot. The police say he reached for the gun in his waistband.
And if that is so, Tamir may have been trying to show the cops his gun was just a toy, though there seems not to have been time even for that. He more likely was just moving reflexively as a youngster might if a radio car suddenly materialized right before him in the park, with a cop in the window shouting something a stunned young brain might not immediately register.
Whatever exactly transpired, the Cleveland Police Department had not learned some important lessons from the 2012 shooting about imagined danger and restraint.
However the department deals with Loehmann is not likely to be directly determined by his race any more than race directly determined how the department dealt with the aggrieved nine who have filed the lawsuit.
Race becomes a big factor when the press and the public go generic; white cops and black victims with little attention paid to the details and the individuals and the circumstances. The department responds as press becomes pressure.
In their lawsuit, the Cleveland Nine say an unnamed black cop received only “the 45-day cooling off period” of restricted duty in the gym after shooting a black suspect.
Had the media made an issue of the shooting, you can be all but certain that the cop in question would not have just done a little “gym time,” no matter what his race.
One white cop who is not part of the suit is Michael Brelo, who somehow fired 49 of the 137 bullets unleashed in 2012, reloading twice. He faces manslaughter charges and is now awaiting trial. The city of Cleveland recently reached a $3 million settlement with the Russell and Williams families.
On Thursday afternoon, dozens of congressional staffers walked out in protest of the recent grand jury decisions failing to indict the two officers who killed Eric Garner and Michael Brown. The result was an incredible display of solidarity, with staffers raising their hands in the air to invoke Brown's "hands up, don't shoot" image.
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