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So how did all this start anyway??? Oh yea.  G Worst Bush's Failed Oil War In Iraq.


No. It began with Saddam Hussein funding and encouraging terrorism in the region and around the world, committing Human Rights violations by killing his own people and otherwise violating UN resolutions.

We did WIN the war to remove Saddam Hussein.  The problems emerged after that in trying to secure a stable, self-sustaining government.  The results there were mixed.  Iraq does have an elected government -- one with problems for sure -- but no democracy runs before it learns how to walk.

The FAILURE was when Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary "how can I line my pockets at the expense of the taxpayer" Clinton decided that America should surrender its role as a world leader and let the terrorists (Hamas & ISIS) and thugs (Putin) have free reign.


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So do you agree with Obama arming and funding ISIS, only now to arm and aid militia fighters to fight them. You always say more guns equals more violence, where is your outrage to this?


Where I have always been... more guns = more violence.
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Where I have always been... more guns = more violence.
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You would think President Gun Control would be consistent with that belief.  


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You would think President Gun Control would be consistent with that belief.  


President Gun Control??? What gun control is that???


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Where I have always been... more guns = more violence.
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So you admit Obama has blood on his hands with the deaths of thousands of civilians due to his actions?


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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So you admit Obama has blood on his hands with the deaths of thousands of civilians due to his actions?


LOL!  Is that what I admit??? I didn't realize that when I posted it... but that is what you wanted
to read into it when you asked the question.

Did Obama know that this would happen? NOPE.
Did G Worst Bush know that there were no WMD's???
YUP.  The plans to invade Iraq were drawn up before G Worst Bush was even elected... they knew
they'd find an excuse after the election.


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LOL!  Is that what I admit??? I didn't realize that when I posted it... but that is what you wanted
to read into it when you asked the question.

Did Obama know that this would happen? NOPE.
Did G Worst Bush know that there were no WMD's???
YUP.  The plans to invade Iraq were drawn up before G Worst Bush was even elected... they knew
they'd find an excuse after the election.


So Obama isn't at fault for arming insurgents but yet the NRA is to blame for school shootings....hmmm


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So Obama isn't at fault for arming insurgents but yet the NRA is to blame for school shootings....hmmm


You see, in this instance, the guns the USG sold to ISIS did not kill on their own, it was how those holding the guns used them.  Here at home, it is not the gun owners actions that kill, but it's the gun itself that causes the killing.  

It's very strange how  weapons sold by the government do not kill on their own.  The characteristics of a gun must change once the weapons leave the US borders and enter international water.


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So Obama isn't at fault for arming insurgents but yet the NRA is to blame for school shootings....hmmm


I didn't say that Obama wasn't at fault did I?  
Try again.  


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You see, in this instance, the guns the USG sold to ISIS did not kill on their own, it was how those holding the guns used them.  Here at home, it is not the gun owners actions that kill, but it's the gun itself that causes the killing.  

It's very strange how  weapons sold by the government do not kill on their own.  The characteristics of a gun must change once the weapons leave the US borders and enter international water.


Yup must be some new gun technology the government is trying out


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Yup must be some new gun technology the government is trying out


Yes, control guns in America because they may get into the hands of violent criminals...BUT...let's give weapons to an unstable region of the world with known warring faction with deep religious divides and hope for the best.  Then when it goes horribly wrong, send in Americans in to provide "humanitarian" air strikes.

And these are supposedly the actions of a sane government.


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You would think President Gun Control would be consistent with that belief.  



President Gun Control??? What gun control is that???


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President Gun Control??? What gun control is that???


SUMMARY: PRESIDENT OBAMA'S GUN-CONTROL PROPOSALS
http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx


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AH YES! Proposals.  


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AH YES! Proposals.  


Oh, he didn't support his own proposal?  


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