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Of course, CBS news would make talking about God and prayer sound like a bad thing.  That network has been peddling extreme leftist garbage for years in BOTH its "news" and "entertainment" divisions.  

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Some parents said a no-cost soccer camp in Queens has a catch – lessons about God are slipped in as part of the program.
As CBS 2’s Kathryn Brown reports, the summer soccer camp sponsored by the South Asian Community Center is usually packed with dozens of kids.
“Every Wednesday and Thursday, they get a crew of people that come from out of state, and then they get the people from this area that just get involved with the soccer,” said parkgoer Albert Dispinseri.
Organizers said the goal of the camp was never to create controversy, but it has. Several church groups from around the country coach the kids at Rory Staunton Field in Jackson Heights, and they finish each day’s lesson with a bit of religion.
“They asked them first — would you mind if we say a prayer? Kids say no, and all they do is thank Jesus for their parents and, for their friends that they have, and all the good things they have in life, and that’s it,” said parkgoer Louise Ross.
But some parents said they were stunned to find out their kids were learning about God and Jesus while learning to kick and pass.
“Families have been up in arms about it, saying, ‘Don’t let your kids play with this group,’” said parkgoer Cari Sobolewski.
Rory Staunton Field is popular and diverse, so much so that officials there recently closed off the tennis courts so a large group could hold Ramadan prayers. Frequent parkgoers said religion and freedom of religion is generally embraced.
“At the end of the day, if they don’t want their children participating, they just send a note saying at the end of the practice keep my child out of it — very simple,” said parkgoer Steven Arroyo.
South Asian Community Center director Larry Holcomb said the prayers are exactly that — an invitation — like many of the culturally diverse activities they sponsor.
“We never, ever tell anybody to pressure anybody, but we also, we never say, ‘Don’t ever mention that you’re a Muslim or mention that you’re a Christian because someone might be offended,’” Holcomb said. “We just don’t do that.”
Still, Holcomb said he is tweaking the rules to make sure activities with a religious connotation plainly state that in the future.


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Of course, CBS news would make talking about God and prayer sound like a bad thing.  That network has been peddling extreme leftist garbage for years in BOTH its "news" and "entertainment" divisions.  

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Some parents said a no-cost soccer camp in Queens has a catch – lessons about God are slipped in as part of the program.
As CBS 2’s Kathryn Brown reports, the summer soccer camp sponsored by the South Asian Community Center is usually packed with dozens of kids.
“Every Wednesday and Thursday, they get a crew of people that come from out of state, and then they get the people from this area that just get involved with the soccer,” said parkgoer Albert Dispinseri.
Organizers said the goal of the camp was never to create controversy, but it has. Several church groups from around the country coach the kids at Rory Staunton Field in Jackson Heights, and they finish each day’s lesson with a bit of religion.
“They asked them first — would you mind if we say a prayer? Kids say no, and all they do is thank Jesus for their parents and, for their friends that they have, and all the good things they have in life, and that’s it,” said parkgoer Louise Ross.
But some parents said they were stunned to find out their kids were learning about God and Jesus while learning to kick and pass.
“Families have been up in arms about it, saying, ‘Don’t let your kids play with this group,’” said parkgoer Cari Sobolewski.
Rory Staunton Field is popular and diverse, so much so that officials there recently closed off the tennis courts so a large group could hold Ramadan prayers. Frequent parkgoers said religion and freedom of religion is generally embraced.
“At the end of the day, if they don’t want their children participating, they just send a note saying at the end of the practice keep my child out of it — very simple,” said parkgoer Steven Arroyo.
South Asian Community Center director Larry Holcomb said the prayers are exactly that — an invitation — like many of the culturally diverse activities they sponsor.
“We never, ever tell anybody to pressure anybody, but we also, we never say, ‘Don’t ever mention that you’re a Muslim or mention that you’re a Christian because someone might be offended,’” Holcomb said. “We just don’t do that.”
Still, Holcomb said he is tweaking the rules to make sure activities with a religious connotation plainly state that in the future.



Well care to address the FACT that some people don't believe in YOUR God?   Some people don't believe in ANY God.

But I guess you believe that others who do not share your belief are not allowed to have their freedoms.

How about it the radical Islamics forced you go pray to their god?   If you attended a school graduation or a soccer game, would you want to say their prayers?   You will never experience being a husband and father so you don't know what it would be like if your children were forced to say prayers and express beliefs that the extremist branches of various religions.

You sound like an extremist Catholic who you think everyone must abide by what the Catholic church says.   Sorry to bust your bubble but we have freedom of religion in this country and NO religion's belief must EVER rule those who are not members of that faith.  You would want HAMAS to rule your life.  You would not what the Taliban to rule your life.   You would not want Boko Haram to rule your life.   So stop forcing your beliefs on others.  

Just remember what Catholic priests did to little children.


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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The extreme left's attempt to deny God and destroy religion has proven a tremendous failure.  It has had all kinds of negative impacts on our nation and society.  It is time for America to get back on its knees and pray to God (Yahweh, Allah, The Great Spirit or whatever name you call God by) for wisdom and guidance.


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The extreme left's attempt to deny God and destroy religion has proven a tremendous failure.  It has had all kinds of negative impacts on our nation and society.  It is time for America to get back on its knees and pray to God (Yahweh, Allah, The Great Spirit or whatever name you call God by) for wisdom and guidance.


your first bad argument is 'the left destroying religion and denying God'....it has no affect on you....

if god is god then no man can destroy god.....otherwise god would cease to be god....it's just that personal.....

it's NOT the job of government to prop up god.....it's everyone's personal job to live their lives as their god says to
no matter the persecution.....the point gone over again and again and again by jesus and the disciples....his kingdom
is not of this world.

you are to be a persecuted reflection of your beliefs.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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your first bad argument is 'the left destroying religion and denying God'....it has no affect on you....

if god is god then no man can destroy god.....otherwise god would cease to be god....it's just that personal.....

it's NOT the job of government to prop up god.....it's everyone's personal job to live their lives as their god says to
no matter the persecution.....the point gone over again and again and again by jesus and the disciples....his kingdom
is not of this world.

you are to be a persecuted reflection of your beliefs.


BRAVO!!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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your first bad argument is 'the left destroying religion and denying God'....it has no affect on you....

if god is god then no man can destroy god.....otherwise god would cease to be god....it's just that personal.....

it's NOT the job of government to prop up god.....it's everyone's personal job to live their lives as their god says to
no matter the persecution.....the point gone over again and again and again by jesus and the disciples....his kingdom
is not of this world.

you are to be a persecuted reflection of your beliefs.


Your first mistake was not reading very carefully.  No where in the article or my comments did I suggest that the government should prop up God.

Second, I specifically referred to the extremist left in Hollywood and the "media" for attempting to deny God and destroy religion.  I don't see anything in Jesus' teachings that forbid someone from tuning out and turning off Hollywood and the "media."

Third, Jesus certainly approved and urged prayers to God.  Therefore, I reiterate:  It is time for America to get back on its knees and pray to God (Yahweh, Allah, The Great Spirit or whatever name you call God by) for wisdom and guidance.


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Your first mistake was not reading very carefully.  No where in the article or my comments did I suggest that the government should prop up God.

Second, I specifically referred to the extremist left in Hollywood and the "media" for attempting to deny God and destroy religion.  I don't see anything in Jesus' teachings that forbid someone from tuning out and turning off Hollywood and the "media."

Third, Jesus certainly approved and urged prayers to God.  Therefore, I reiterate:  It is time for America to get back on its knees and pray to God (Yahweh, Allah, The Great Spirit or whatever name you call God by) for wisdom and guidance.


of course you did....all over the forum....you believe as if abortion is not allowed because your god sanctions mysterious
womb life...

hollywood cannot destroy your god or your religion....it can destroy the religious house of cards and it wouldn't matter
to a god because a god is a god and we are 'just human'

you did just 'america' needs to get back on it's knees and pray....you just mixed apples and oranges there....

I'm sure you meant to say "I/myself and my brothers/sisters in god need to get on our knees and pray them bloody."

it's just that personal.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Religion, the opiate of the masses.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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of course you did....all over the forum....you believe as if abortion is not allowed because your god sanctions mysterious
womb life...

hollywood cannot destroy your god or your religion....it can destroy the religious house of cards and it wouldn't matter
to a god because a god is a god and we are 'just human'

you did just 'america' needs to get back on it's knees and pray....you just mixed apples and oranges there....

I'm sure you meant to say "I/myself and my brothers/sisters in god need to get on our knees and pray them bloody."

it's just that personal.


No, I meant to say EXACTLY what I wrote.  America -- the people as individuals -- needs to get back on its knees and pray.  


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No, I meant to say EXACTLY what I wrote.  America -- the people as individuals -- needs to get back on its knees and pray.  


Nope.

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LMAO!
  The Jews are PRAYING to exterminate the Palestinians...
  The Palestinians are PRAYING to exterminate the Jews...
(as if PRAYER ever actually did anything except give false hope to the believers)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Religion, the opiate of the masses.


Democracy is the opiate of the masses.


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Democracy is the opiate of the masses.


^5


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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LMAO!
  The Jews are PRAYING to exterminate the Palestinians...
  The Palestinians are PRAYING to exterminate the Jews...
(as if PRAYER ever actually did anything except give false hope to the believers)


The Jews are praying for PEACE.  The Palestinians can have piece and their own nation IF they are willing to stop their violence and recognize Israel's right to exist.  The sad thing is that the U.S. is actually financing the Palestinian terrorists by sending "reconstruction aid" to Palestine which the Palestinians use to buy missiles to shoot at Israel and build intricate tunnels to run like terrorist rats underground to kidnap and/or kill Israelis.

Also, Prayer has done MUCH GOOD and those who seek God in prayer will always have REAL hope.


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I don't live in Israel. I'm not jewish. I'm not arab/muslum. I don't know all of the FACTS. All I know is what is pushed thru the cable lines that feed my tv and internet. With that said, and with the FACT that the LAME STEAM MEDIA reports only what they are 'allowed' to report, I and everyone else should have nothing more than an opinion based on what we are 'allowed' to know.....as assumed FACT!!!

It is very very difficult, if not impossible, to tell the difference between FACT and PROPAGANDA!!!


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