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Thank you, that is brilliant.

The Fed already said they would pay all food, medical and shelter costs.

That way I get to help people and get paid well to do it.


Who is the fed?  Who funds the fed?  How does the fed get the money to pay for the food, medical, and shelter costs?  Ohhhh...That's right, by forcibly taking it from the citizens.  

So you can help people and get paid well by the government defined by the boarders you don't believe in, and a government that obtained the money to pay for the food, medical and shelter, from the people within those boarders through the use of force.  



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Tonko...the creepy uncle that shows up for every holiday for a free meal, talk about how he's missed everyone and will
be back to help with painting the house. Although you really don't want his help because he eats you out of house and home.
If the taxpayers can't supply him with family then DAMN IT! he's going to go get one from Mexico and give them jobs as
janitors/housekeepers and maybe waitstaff depending if he can afford to send them to school to learn fluent english.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Immigrants have drastically changed over the years.....who gave those who came over in the past anything....they came with nothing and earned their way.  

and learning how to speak English to become a naturalized citizen...   now, they come with the excuse of tyranny, torture, etc.,....I am very sympathetic

to those in need especially children.....but their parents are either her or back in their own land.....what's up with that.....they leave their kids behind

and or send them ahead.....it's not fair to our country and the way immigrants are accepted.....my relatives had to earn their way in order to eat and

survive.

We have to concentrate on what is going on in our backyard....we have impoverished , indigent, and helpless people here in the USA....kids don't have a

home a good meal....a safe place ...and so we ignore our own and chastise them if they are in need...

seems like things have to turn around...close our doors and have immigrants come the legal way......and then speak the English language....

just sayin'....these are my thoughts after hearing my friends in CA and AZ and TX talk about what is happening in their states....and not for the good.



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I am confused by your contradictory post.  First, you don't believe in nationalism or boarders, but in the same post, you cite the statue of liberty.   If you don't believe in boarders, what is the statue of liberty referring to when it says, "give ME your tired, your poor"?  Is that referring to a clearly defined boarder of a nation that is governed?


At the time the Statue was erected America took pride in being a free country.

Now America is a bunch of haters of non-American born people.

There is no contradiction.

US borders are the ultimate discrimination based on national origin.

Which should be unconstitutional.



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Who is the fed?  Who funds the fed?  How does the fed get the money to pay for the food, medical, and shelter costs?  Ohhhh...That's right, by forcibly taking it from the citizens.  

So you can help people and get paid well by the government defined by the borders you don't believe in, and a government that obtained the money to pay for the food, medical and shelter, from the people within those borders through the use of force.  



I see that you are desperate for an argument, so I will humor you.

1. I didn't forcibly take money from anyone. I am a victim of the same use of force as you.

2. If the fed is looking to spend money, and I have a home available, why would it be wrong for me to take back some "our" money taken from us by the use of force, by leasing them my home?

For some reason you are making me out to be the bad guy for wanting to provide a service to those willing to pay.

By your logic I must just accept my losses to the government through forced taxation and never be allowed to get any of the money back, by providing a service that they are willing to pay for.

So, I could never be a teacher or a government employee of any kind?

You are making the issue about me, when the issue is refugees that need help.

I am willing to help and you simply don't like it.



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So back on topic ... I continue to hear talk of Draper school being identified as a location to house these undocumented children.  Does anyone know who I could speak with to determine if it is truly being considered? I am guessing that our Congressman is working hard to support the President's agenda of shipping these immigrants all around the country so that they can disappear into the general population. I am concerned about the reported diseases being carried by some of these illegal aliens and also the crime associated with those in drug cartels and gangs. Rotterdam doesn't need more problems to contend with
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So back on topic ... I continue to hear talk of Draper school being identified as a location to house these undocumented children.  Does anyone know who I could speak with to determine if it is truly being considered? I am guessing that our Congressman is working hard to support the President's agenda of shipping these immigrants all around the country so that they can disappear into the general population. I am concerned about the reported diseases being carried by some of these illegal aliens and also the crime associated with those in drug cartels and gangs. Rotterdam doesn't need more problems to contend with


see v-dare link i posted in post #6 of this thread....

New York State Refugee Coordinator: Dodie Wheeler 518-402-3096
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Just what Schenectady and Rotterdam need an out break of disease, the Dems have brought us everything else.
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Thank you sanfordy2.  I checked there yesterday and did not see Draper school listed. However, I'm not sure that all of the locations being considered are included on that site. I was inquiring more about an elected official with who I could speak. I doubt that the town officials would even know if Washington was considering that site for use.  According to news reports, it appears that local governments are not being notified in advance
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Thank you sanfordy2.  I checked there yesterday and did not see Draper school listed. However, I'm not sure that all of the locations being considered are included on that site. I was inquiring more about an elected official with who I could speak. I doubt that the town officials would even know if Washington was considering that site for use.  According to news reports, it appears that local governments are not being notified in advance
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I have no problem with children coming to this country. Our neighbors grandfather came here from Italy when he was only 16 years old....alone! His parents sent him here to have a better life. But he came here legally....via Ellis Island.........not smuggled in! And the government didn't pay a dime!!! 'His kind'....Italians....took him in until he got on his feet.

So what has changed in this country? Aren't these laws still in place today? Or are they just being ignored and we're flying by the seat of our pants?


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the plot thickens...

http://www.vdare.com/posts/catholic-church-urges-parishioners-to-house-illegal-aliens


Catholic Church Urges Parishioners to House Illegal Aliens
By Brenda Walker on July 8, 2014
A retired doctor and his wife phoned Rush Limbaugh on Tuesday to tell their story about the San Bernardino Catholic church urging members of the parish welcome illegal aliens into their homes. Not only did the archbishop invite parishioners to harbor lawbreakers (a felony, right?) but he also to keep quiet about it to the media. Furthermore, the government put the church up to the scheme.

One wonders how many diseased, non-English-speaking aliens Archbishop Barnes is taking in.

No problema about the cost though, since the church promised to reimburse the generous (if foolish) care providers........
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don't really care what the catholic church does....they ain't using any of my money.
wasn't it also catholics (and maybe other religious affiliations) that helped the jews when it was illegal to in Germany?

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the plot thickens...

http://www.vdare.com/posts/catholic-church-urges-parishioners-to-house-illegal-aliens


Catholic Church Urges Parishioners to House Illegal Aliens
By Brenda Walker on July 8, 2014
A retired doctor and his wife phoned Rush Limbaugh on Tuesday to tell their story about the San Bernardino Catholic church urging members of the parish welcome illegal aliens into their homes. Not only did the archbishop invite parishioners to harbor lawbreakers (a felony, right?) but he also to keep quiet about it to the media. Furthermore, the government put the church up to the scheme.

One wonders how many diseased, non-English-speaking aliens Archbishop Barnes is taking in.

No problema about the cost though, since the church promised to reimburse the generous (if foolish) care providers........




When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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don't really care what the catholic church does....they ain't using any of my money.
wasn't it also catholics (and maybe other religious affiliations) that helped the jews when it was illegal to in Germany?







but they are.....and jews/germany? this is nothing like that/nothing here in comparison would ever come close to that horror..

more from the same article above

No problema about the cost though, since the church promised to reimburse the generous (if foolish) care providers. However, the Catholic church receives millions of Americans’ tax dollars to pursue its alleged good works of refugee resettlement and other immigration services, shown as “Government Revenue” in the 2010 Catholic Charities graph, so it’s not so surprising that Washington and the church would work in partnership:

Catholic elites are highly invested in undermining American law and sovereignty. In 2013 they spent more than $3 million to lobby for amnesty for millions of foreign lawbreakers, most of whom are Catholics and are regarded by cassocks as reinvigorating the church’s dwindling attendance. Amnesty is seen by Vaticrats as a big plus for their side, but it would be terribly harmful for citizen workers who are already struggling in the jobless recovery.
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Anyone who seriously believes that these tens of thousands of children made it thru the 1800 miles  through Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and El Salvador, and through the entire length of the country of Mexico, through the groves of the human smugglers with absolutely no help from the governments of Mexico and the U.S. seriously needs to have his head examined. imho


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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