For CissyWahWah and the WahWahettes who want some sort of invasion of Vietnam, here ya go: 1857 - Napolean's decision; France invades Vietnam and makes Vietnam a colony.
how about the 'british invasion' of the beatles....???? that was an 'invasion' of sorts....only the people here in america could have made them poor and they would have went back home.....unlike the military police forces in other countries....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
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France succeeded! How many coups in Vietnam rejecting the US puppets?
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January 27, 1973 All warring parties in the Vietnam War sign a cease fire. Henry Kissenger's initials on the Cease Fire March 1973 The last American combat soldiers leave South Vietnam,
They are called HISTORY BOOKS Cicero. You really should try opening one!
~ 1858-1884 - France INVADES Vietnam and makes Vietnam a colony.
~ 1940 Japan INVADES Vietnam
~ 1949–55 State of Vietnam (Quốc gia Việt Nam). Internationally recognized in 1950. Vietnam was partitioned at the 17th parallel in 1954. Bảo Đại (1949–55). Abdicated as emperor in 1945.
~1955–75 Republic of Vietnam[a] (Việt Nam Cộng Hòa). Fought Vietnam War (1959–75) against Hanoi.
~Ngô Đình Diệm (1955–63).
~Nguyễn Văn Thiệu (1965–75). Prime Minister Nguyễn Cao Kỳ
~ 1975 North Vietnam INVADES South Vietnam.
~Trần Văn Hương (1975).
~Dương Văn Minh (2nd time) (1975).
~ 1975–76 Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam (Chính phủ Cách mạng lâm thời Cộng hoà miền Nam Việt Nam). Authority nominal as South was occupied by the People's Army of Vietnam. Huỳnh Tấn Phát (1975–76)
~ 1978 Vietnam INVADES and occupies Cambodia.
~ 1979 People's Republic of China INVADES the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.
~ 1989 Vietnamese troops leave Cambodia
See Cicero... if you just bothered to read history instead of inventing it, you would have known of several INVASIONS in and from Vietnam.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Another direction? You brought up France and Napolean. Talk about switching directions!lol
The coups were against US propped up puppets in S Vietnam. Not the US government in America.
You wanted INVASION of Vietnam, so I gave it to you...how is that a misdirection...DUH!!!! So again, so me proof of these alleged fantasy cups you speak of. Where were they, when, what happened, who was involved...put something of "fact" in your statement, because I am really anxious to know about these alleged coups you have fabricated. Another CissyWahWah empty statement!!!!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
how about the 'british invasion' of the beatles....???? that was an 'invasion' of sorts....only the people here in america could have made them poor and they would have went back home.....unlike the military police forces in other countries....
are you even a living real person?????? are the wires in your head even connected??????
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
are you even a living real person?????? are the wires in your head even connected??????
the only time it's an 'invasion' is when someone tells you that it is?
so are there 'soft' invasions,,,,,like a military police action? being invited by the authorities of said country where the police action is occurring makes it a 'non-invasion', and more like a 2year olds birthday party?
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
the only time it's an 'invasion' is when someone tells you that it is?
so are there 'soft' invasions,,,,,like a military police action? being invited by the authorities of said country where the police action is occurring makes it a 'non-invasion', and more like a 2year olds birthday party?
tired yet?
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
the only time it's an 'invasion' is when someone tells you that it is? so are there 'soft' invasions,,,,,like a military police action? being invited by the authorities of said country where the police action is occurring makes it a 'non-invasion', and more like a 2year olds birthday party?
I think termites have INVADED Senders brain!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
All you have to do is Google "Vietnam Coups", and you will see the multiple "leaders" of an illegitimate government you were allegedly protecting(propping up).
BS...why don't you go back and post confirmation in the other thread...WAITING!!!!!! and your post should support your specific allegations, not a redirect to some other non-existent fabrication....just to be helpful, I will repeat this in the other thread for you!
Russia took control of one of our drones in Crimea today, This after Iran took control and successfully landed one of ours not to long ago as well
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CissyWahWah....still waiting!!!! Show us your proof!!!!
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On November 11, 1960, a failed coup attempt against President Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam was led by Lieutenant Colonel Vuong Van Dong and Colonel Nguyen Chanh Thi of the Airborne Division of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN).
The rebels launched the coup in response to Diem's autocratic rule and the negative political influence of his brother Ngo Dinh Nhu and his sister-in-law Madame Ngo Dinh Nhu.
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In November 1963, President Ngô Đình Diệm of South Vietnam was deposed by a group of Army of the Republic of Vietnam officers who disagreed with his handling of both the Buddhist crisis and the Viet Cong threat to the regime.
The Kennedy administration had been aware of the coup planning,[3] but Cable 243 from the United States Department of State to US Ambassador to South Vietnam Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr., stated that it was US policy[4] not to try to stop it. Lucien Conein, the Central Intelligence Agency’s liaison between the US embassy and the coup planners, told them that the US would not intervene to stop it. Conein also provided funds to the coup leaders.
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Before dawn on January 30, 1964, General Nguyen Khanh ousted the military junta led by General Duong Van Minh from the leadership of South Vietnam without firing a shot. It came less than three months after Minh's junta had themselves come to power in a bloody coup against then President Ngo Dinh Diem. The coup was bloodless and took less than a few hours—after power had been seized Minh's aide and bodyguard, Major Nguyen Van Nhung was arrested and summarily executed.
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Before dawn on September 13, 1964, the ruling military junta of South Vietnam, led by General Nguyen Khanh, was threatened by a coup attempt headed by Generals Lam Van Phat and Duong Van Duc, who sent dissident units into the capital Saigon. They captured various key points and announced over national radio the overthrow of the incumbent regime. With the help of the Americans, Khanh was able to rally support and the coup collapsed the next morning without any casualties.
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Nguyen Van Thieu, (born April 5, 1923, Tri Thuy, Ninh Thuan province, Vietnam—died September 29, 2001, Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.), president of the Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) from 1967 until the republic fell to the forces of North Vietnam in 1975.
The son of a small landowner, Thieu joined the communist-oriented Viet Minh in 1945 but later fought for the French colonial regime against the Viet Minh. In 1954 he was put in charge of the Vietnamese National Military Academy and, after 1956, continued to serve under the regime of Ngo Dinh Diem in South Vietnam. Thieu played an important part in a successful coup against Diem in 1963. In 1965 he became chief of state in a military government headed by Premier Nguyen Cao Ky. In 1967 he was elected president under a new constitution promulgated in that year. He was reelected without opposition in 1971.
Thieu’s emergence coincided with the beginning of major U.S. intervention in the war against the Viet Cong insurgents and North Vietnam. Despite criticism of the authoritarian nature of his regime, he retained the support of the United States throughout the administrations of the U.S. presidents Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon. He continued to consolidate his power after the peace agreements of 1973 (in which his government was a somewhat reluctant participant) and the withdrawal of U.S. troops from South Vietnam.
Communist gains in South Vietnam’s northern provinces early in 1975 prompted Thieu to recall troops to defend the capital city, Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City). Badly managed, the retreat turned into a rout, allowing communist forces to surround the capital. After resisting for several days, Thieu was persuaded that his resignation might permit a negotiated settlement of the war. On April 21, 1975, in a speech denouncing the United States, he resigned in favour of his vice president, Tran Van Huong, and shortly afterward left the country. He went first to Taiwan and later to England, taking up residence in Surrey, before settling in the United States.
Cicero. What is your point? That coups occurred in S Vietnam???
Look at the history of the 50's, 60's & 70's. Coups occurred in these countries, some multiple times: Brazil, Turkey, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Afganistán, Algeria, Bolivia, Cambodia, Haiti Indonesia, Libya, Nigeria, Panama, Pakistan, Peru, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Thailand, Uganda, Yemen... This is just a partial list.
Is your point that a leader installed by a coup is somehow Pro or Anti American? Much of the leaders of the world were (and are) in power by coup or similar 'non elected' procedure. The coup ousting Diem was a popular coup, supported by the majority of the S Vietnamese people. Many of the rest were for political expediency. Are you so naive to think that governments of the world, even today, are all 'democratically elected by the masses"???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Now that is exactly right, and does not support your fabricated claim...so show us the ones that support your claim:
My claim was that you were fighting in support of an illegitimate government led by coups and not public support. So I ask again, WHO invited the US military invasion into South Vietnam?
My claim was that you were fighting in support of an illegitimate government led by coups and not public support. So I ask again, WHO invited the US military invasion into South Vietnam?
There you go again, deflecting attention from your false claims and redirecting them into something else false...US INVADING VIETNAM!!! Exactly what I expect from someone that talks out their blowhole more than anyone on this forum.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
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