Nahhh, no "inside' info. Just a little intuitive understanding of how politics works.
I don't see a politician standing up in front of the senior on a fixed income and telling them - "the leaf pick up service you've had for all these years was really free, and now we are going to charge you $50...If you don't want to pay the $50, then you can opt out of the service and get rid of your leaves yourself granny."
Yes...It should be interesting...If a politician doesn't make this an issue to, and run on a senior citizen deduction or exemption on leaf service, they don't know how to win elections.
and just exactly how is that any different than your options Mr. 0.177"...why do you always have to spin it about a certain class, or occupation, or group....when it's NOT!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
and just exactly how is that any different than your options Mr. 0.177"...why do you always have to spin it about a certain class, or occupation, or group....when it's NOT!
The same reason you have a veterans exemption...BECAUSE IT ALWAYS IS ABOUT CLASS, OCCUPATION, OR GROUP...It's not spin, it's the reality of politics.
The same reason you have a veterans exemption...BECAUSE IT ALWAYS IS ABOUT CLASS, OCCUPATION, OR GROUP...It's not spin, it's the reality of politics.
DON'T LEAVE OUR SENIORS ON THE CURB.
No, it's spin...answer my question...what is different about the Seniors opting out option versus yours...what is the benefit for one versus the other? Why is your option any different?
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
No, it's spin...answer my question...what is different about the Seniors opting out option versus yours...what is the benefit for one versus the other? Why is your option any different?
It's a political benefit. You are either raising taxes($50) on a leaf pick up service that has been around for decades and now telling people it was "free". Or the other option is telling granny to "opt out" and take care of their own leaf removal.
Seniors were up in arms when the Town Hall was going to stop selling leaf bags a few years back.
It's a political benefit. You are either raising taxes($50) on a leaf pick up service that has been around for decades and now telling people it was "free". Or the other option is telling granny to "opt out" and take care of their own leaf removal.
Seniors were up in arms when the Town Hall was going to stop selling leaf bags a few years back.
DON'T LEAVE OUR SENIORS ON THE CURB
You still don't answer the question, HOW IS IT DIFFERENT THAN YOUR OPTIONS?
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
You still don't answer the question, HOW IS IT DIFFERENT THAN YOUR OPTIONS?
What option are you talking about? Exempting seniors? Seniors will get the service without paying. Raise the "fee" from $50 to $55 on everybody else, and exempt the seniors. That will win votes. Kinda like they do with your veterans exemption, just increase it a little on everybody else to pick up what you don't pay.
We have never used the town's brush clean-up service but have paid for it out of our taxes for years. At least now, we have the opportunity to opt out of the service and the fee. However, the fee only covers a portion of the cost of the service - so we will still be paying for unmandated and, in our humble opinion, unnecessary town service.
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What option are you talking about? Exempting seniors? Seniors will get the service without paying. Raise the "fee" from $50 to $55 on everybody else, and exempt the seniors. That will win votes. Kinda like they do with your veterans exemption, just increase it a little on everybody else to pick up what you don't pay.
Still no answer...you continue playing your being a jerk game. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE....you have same options as seniors.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Still no answer...you continue playing your being a jerk game. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE....you have same options as seniors.
Not really because the cost will still be the same for the service that was once paid for by taxes, except now you just won't receive the service. If those who opt out receive a reduction of taxes as well then I wouldn't see a problem. Personally I like the system of being able to opt out of services but with that we shouldn't be charged for them, the fee is just for show.
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Still no answer...you continue playing your being a jerk game. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE....you have same options as seniors.
Hey dumb a**, I can't help it you can't handle debate. The premise is... THAT LEAF PICK UP WILL BECOME POLITICAL. And seniors will be used for political leverage. Somebody will appeal to the senior voter after seniors realize they have to pay $50 for leaf pickup that has been included as a service for 30-40-50 years, and now their other option is to opt out and dispose of their own leaves. I am just saying, there will soon be a 3rd option...Seniors receive leaf pickup at a deeply discounted fee or completely free.
Here's a question, does the code enforcement officer cite the senior that opted out of leaf pickup and now their lawn if piled with leaves? Will the neighbors complain to the town when their neighbor doesn't rake their leaves and it blows on to their property?
Yup, grandma on a fixed income can't afford $50 leaf pick up, so now grandma doesn't rake her leaves and they blow all around the neighborhood.
Hey dumb a**, I can't help it you can't handle debate. The premise is... THAT LEAF PICK UP WILL BECOME POLITICAL. And seniors will be used for political leverage. Somebody will appeal to the senior voter after seniors realize they have to pay $50 for leaf pickup that has been included as a service for 30-40-50 years, and now their other option is to opt out and dispose of their own leaves. I am just saying, there will soon be a 3rd option...Seniors receive leaf pickup at a deeply discounted fee or completely free.
DON'T LEAVE OUR SENIORS ON THE CURB!
Hey $hit for brains, debate what. Can't help it if you simply can't answer questions directed to you. You fabricate comments without foundation and think we all must swallow your lamea$$ bull$hit and not question your jacka$$ game...guess what, we don't.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Hey $hit for brains, debate what. You fabricate comments without foundation and think we all must swallow your lamea$$ bull$hit and not question your jacka$$ game...guess what, we don't.
Nineteen cops made more than double Rotterdam's average household income and these politicians are going to tell seniors on a fixed income they have to pay extra for a service they've received since the inception of the road side leaf pick-up service, or they can opt out? Hmmmmm...Nobody is going to ask where the money they've been paying is going? Nobody is going to look at the 6 figure police salaries?
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