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Box A Rox
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No, depleted uranium causes cancer and birth defects.  Fracking earthquakes do not.  As long as the depleted uranium isn't being dropped on your side of the earth, too bad for those other poor bastards.

Fracking...what a silly debate.


We've all seen this before.  Cissy will take off on a tangent and follow it forever regardless of the subject
of the thread.  
So go ahead Cissy... have at Depleted Uranium if it makes ya feel better.
BTW, I used to work with depleted uranium occasionally.  

Civilian uses include counterweights in aircraft, radiation shielding in medical radiation therapy
and industrial radiography equipment and containers used to transport radioactive materials.


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Some folks are worried about a few small earthquakes which may or may not be caused by fracking.  Some folks are worried about other things

Personally, I think we should be more worried about the super-volcano under Yellowstone National Park erupting -- It is overdue for an eruption according to those who study these things.


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Hey Jar of Jasper, I'm surprised you haven't picked up on this yet. Since it does support your position on fracking, and apparently Alabama is a freakin' frackin' state, and since I've been bustin' your balls all morning I'll post it for you. You're welcome.


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Swarm of Earthquakes Rattles Rural Alabama; Reason Unclear
EUTAW, Ala. — Jun 13, 2015, 9:46 AM ET
By JAY REEVES Associated Press
Associated Press

Jim Sterling didn't know what had hit his 156-year-old antebellum home when an earthquake struck Alabama's old plantation region early one morning last November. Startled, he grabbed a gun and ran outdoors.

In the pre-dawn chill, Sterling said, he found an odd scene: horses were galloping, cows mooing and dogs barking.

"I heard a boom and felt the shaking," Sterling said. "It really upset me."

More than a dozen weak earthquakes have followed in the seven months since in west Alabama's rural Greene County, and geologists are trying to figure out what is causing the seismic swarm in an area of the South more prone to tornadoes than earthquakes.

"It is interesting that recently there has been more activity there than in the last four decades," said Sandy Ebersole, an earthquake expert with the Geological Survey of Alabama.

Records from the U.S. Geological Survey show the first of 14 earthquakes occurred on Nov. 20, when a magnitude 3.8 earthquake was recorded about 10 miles northwest of the community of Eutaw. The second occurred in mid-December, followed by another in January and three within a few hours of each other on Feb. 19.

The tremors have continued ever since, with the most recent occurring June 6, when a magnitude 3.0 quake rattled the area. All the tremors have been weaker than the initial jolt in November, and Ebersole said some have been too slight for residents to detect.

Located about 35 miles from Tuscaloosa, the whole of Greene County has only about 8,700 residents, and the area where the quakes are occurring is sparsely populated. Farmlands and forests are dotted by hunting preserves and old homes left over from Alabama's past as a cotton-producing, slave-holding state.

Experts have installed a seismic monitor in a field to enable them to get better information about the quakes, none of which has caused major damage. Ebersole said researchers are trying to rule out potential causes such as blasting for quarries and sonic booms. They've even held meetings with rattled area residents.

The quakes could be linked to underground cracks, or faults, found in the area in recent years at varying depths, Ebersole said. But just what has been causing the ground to shake is unclear.

One potential source that regulators are discounting is hydraulic fracturing or "fracking," a process for extracting underground oil or natural gas that has been blamed for earthquake swarms elsewhere, including Oklahoma. Wastewater is sometimes injected underground, a method the government has blamed for quakes.

While Greene County is on the edge of Alabama's primary region for oil and gas production, state geologist Nick Tew said no such production or disposal work is going on in the area where the quakes are occurring.

The mysterious shaking has left residents like Mark McClelland to protect themselves in the only way they can.

"After the second or third one I went to get some earthquake insurance," said McClelland. "It's not bad, about $150 a year."

The hearty construction methods and thick timbers used in his 163-old Greek Revival mansion provide some comfort to Barden Smedberg, who operates the house as a wedding venue and a bed and breakfast. One of the earliest quakes shook loose curtain rods from window frames at his Everhope Plantation, he said. But no other damage has occurred.

"This house has been here since 1852. I don't think it's going anywhere," said Smedberg.

Even without much damage or a major shake to date, Sterling said he would still like to know what is causing the quakes.

"A lot of people are wondering what's going on," he said.


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Hey Jar of Jasper, I'm surprised you haven't picked up on this yet. Since it does support your position on fracking, and apparently Alabama is a freakin' frackin' state, and since I've been bustin' your balls all morning I'll post it for you. You're welcome.




The federal govt concluded that Fracking causes Earthquakes in the early 1960's, when their wastewate
disposal facility at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal caused hundreds of quakes in an area that previously had
a low quake history.

Fracking and Earthquakes is old news... but some still don't want to believe it.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/colorado/history.php


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The federal govt concluded that Fracking causes Earthquakes in the early 1960's, when their wastewate
disposal facility at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal caused hundreds of quakes in an area that previously had
a low quake history.

Fracking and Earthquakes is old news... but some still don't want to believe it.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/colorado/history.php


Alva is making the point that NOT all earthquakes occur in areas where fracking is taking place.  

Upstate New York (we happen to live between 3 major fault lines) has many very minor earthquakes every year.  There is always the chance that someday one of them will have a big earthquake.  We don't have fracking .. but we still face the threat of an earthquake.  


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Alva is making the point that NOT all earthquakes occur in areas where fracking is taking place.  

Upstate New York (we happen to live between 3 major fault lines) has many very minor earthquakes every year.  There is always the chance that someday one of them will have a big earthquake.  We don't have fracking .. but we still face the threat of an earthquake.  


LOL, actually I really wasn't trying to make any point at all. I just posted the article because I was surprised that Cask of Calcium hadn't picked up on it. That being said,and although I really don't have any thoughts on the topic, nor done any research on it myself, I do have a friend in Pennsylvania who relates to me that there are plenty of folks who are quite happy with the economic impact that fracking has had there. Thanks for thinking of me though. LOL


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Q.   Who Has The Most Earthquakes In the World???
A.   Oklahoma.  Ever since they started Fracking.


Oklahoma Has More Earthquakes Than Anywhere Else in the World
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Oklahoma now has more earthquakes than anywhere else in the world, according to a spokesman from
the Oklahoma Corporation Commission (OCC), which oversees the Sooner State’s oil and gas industry.”


“Oklahoma went from two earthquakes a year before 2009 to two a day. This year, roughly 700 earthquakes
of magnitude 3 or higher has shook the state, compared to 20 in 2009.”
“Scientists have linked this never-ending spate of tremors to the state’s drilling boom. The Oklahoma Geological
Survey concluded that the injection of wastewater byproducts into deep underground disposal wells from fracking
operations has triggered the seismic activity in Oklahoma.”


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