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Box A Rox
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New York State Is Set to Loosen Marijuana Laws

ALBANY — Joining a growing group of states that have loosened restrictions on marijuana,
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York plans this week to announce an executive action that
would allow limited use of the drug by those with serious illnesses.

NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01.....tw-bna&_r=1&


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New York State Is Set to Loosen Marijuana Laws

ALBANY — Joining a growing group of states that have loosened restrictions on marijuana,
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York plans this week to announce an executive action that
would allow limited use of the drug by those with serious illnesses.

NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01.....tw-bna&_r=1&


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Shocking!

Oh wait, no it's not.




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It's a shame that it's still so restricted, could you imagine needing a prescription to buy a beer!!! Great to see what's happening in Colorado now. For once we are actually allowing a tiny bit of freedom in the "land of the free"
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Of course, expanding the liberal control network.

This will create more government jobs.
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It's a shame that it's still so restricted, could you imagine needing a prescription to buy a beer!!! Great to see what's happening in Colorado now. For once we are actually allowing a tiny bit of freedom in the "land of the free"


In time it will be legal, these baby steps are there way of trying to say the drug war wasn't a complete failure. Its just a shame more people will be killed and arrested because of the drug war between now and the time they legalize it.



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Of course, expanding the liberal control network.

This will create more government jobs.


they used to be called the hebrew slave masters, but at least there will be jobs


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because they said so


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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It's a shame that it's still so restricted, could you imagine needing a prescription to buy a beer!!! Great to see what's happening in Colorado now. For once we are actually allowing a tiny bit of freedom in the "land of the free"



What's happening in Colorado is not a good thing.

The government is enacting more laws regulating and allowing selected government approved entities to own the entire marketplace.

Marijuana laws need to be completely ignored, not replaced with a government mafia controlled organization to sit alongside the alcohol regulating agencies.

The entire industry needs no government supervision.

Once again they deny free trade in favor of government approved select dealerships and protection from competition.

Why shouldn't everyone be allowed to grow and sell pot?

This is just further government control of all businesses and industries.

The government is the new mafia.

Marijuana laws need to be erased.

Making new laws will merely start a new marijuana underground war that the government will still spend billions on enforcement.

Repealing all marijuana laws would leave the only enforcement against those who fail to claim income from their sales.

The Colorado and Washington models will only grow government and government regulation, and will not save money.

More trickle down legalization from the hands of the government overlords.




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...could you imagine needing a prescription to buy a beer!.


Allowing pot to be a medicine would suggest that prescription marijuana must be paid for by your health insurance.

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What's happening in Colorado is not a good thing.

The government is enacting more laws regulating and allowing selected government approved entities to own the entire marketplace.

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Colorado residents will be allowed to grow their own plants, up to 6 I believe. So some power is given to the people. Its small steps but in the right direction.




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Colorado residents will be allowed to grow their own plants, up to 6 I believe. So some power is given to the people. Its small steps but in the right direction.


Colorado expects to sell $578 million worth of pot this year bringing in $67 million in tax revenue.

That money will be eaten up by the regulators and the new law enforcers.

There will be no net gain.

Uraguay legalized pot. They intend on having licensed government dealers sell pot for $1 per gram.

Paraguay sells pot for 6 cents per gram.

This brings new smuggling illegal imports costs to the table.

Reregulation and reinventing enforcement to give the illusion of legality, will cost more than the original war on pot.

Pot laws need to be repealed in full.

Nothing more is needed.

No get rich quick schemes are needed that will only pay for more cops salaries.

Let the free market do the rest.

Restricting growing, distribution and sales merely prohibits economic growth and limits the tax revenue.

Without government restrictions, there would be 10 million new jobs the first month and property values would skyrocket.

Cuomo is just another idiot liar using the word legalize as if he knows the meaning of it.


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New York State Is Set to Loosen Marijuana Laws

ALBANY — Joining a growing group of states that have loosened restrictions on marijuana,
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York plans this week to announce an executive action that
would allow limited use of the drug by those with serious illnesses.

NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01.....tw-bna&_r=1&


Thank You Gov Cuomo for taking the first steps to legalize this medicine.  There is science ready to
expand cannabis's active ingredient (THC).  Until now, most research grants would shy away from
THC because of it's illegal drug implications.  Hopefully the full benefits of THC will now be put to use
treating a variety of ailments.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cuomo is just another idiot liar using the word legalize as if he knows the meaning of it.[/b]



I agree with everything you said, on the other side if the price is to high due to taxes it will simply fall back to the black market which I'm sure is still taking place in Colorado right now. I haven't heard anything on the laws regarding hemp or hemp products, that is where jobs and money would really be useful to this economy.


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Thank You Gov Cuomo for taking the first steps to legalize this medicine.  There is science ready to
expand cannabis's active ingredient (THC).  Until now, most research grants would shy away from
THC because of it's illegal drug implications.  Hopefully the full benefits of THC will now be put to use
treating a variety of ailments.



I hope private research is allowed to take part, if left to big drug companies expect outrageous prices and limiting its full potential. Since they're limiting it to 20 hospitals in the state and only recommending it to certain sicknesses and ailments this is far from where we need to be.


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