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1. 70% of wealthy eat less than 300 junk food calories per day. 97% of poor people eat more than 300 junk food calories per day. 23% of wealthy gamble. 52% of poor people gamble.

2. 80% of wealthy are focused on accomplishing some single goal. Only 12% of the poor do this.

3. 76% of wealthy exercise aerobically four days a week. 23% of poor do this.

4. 63% of wealthy listen to audio books during commute to work vs. 5% of poor people.

5. 81% of wealthy maintain a to-do list vs. 19% of poor.

6. 63% of wealthy parents make their children read two or more non-fiction books a month vs. 3% of poor.

7. 70% of wealthy parents make their children volunteer 10 hours or more a month vs. 3% of poor.

8. 80% of wealthy make Happy Birthday calls vs. 11% of poor.

9. 67% of wealthy write down their goals vs. 17% of poor.

10. 88% of wealthy read 30 minutes or more each day for education or career reasons vs. 2% of poor.

11. 6% of wealthy say what’s on their mind vs. 69% of poor.

12. 79% of wealthy network five hours or more each month vs. 16% of poor.

13. 67% of wealthy watch one hour or less of TV every day vs. 23% of poor.

14. 6% of wealthy watch reality TV vs. 78% of poor.

15. 44% of wealthy wake up three hours before work starts vs. 3% of poor.

16. 74% of wealthy teach good daily success habits to their children vs. 1% of poor.

17. 84% of wealthy believe good habits create opportunity luck vs. 4% of poor.

18. 76% of wealthy believe bad habits create detrimental luck vs. 9% of poor.

19. 86% of wealthy believe in lifelong educational self-improvement vs. 5% of poor.

20. 86% of wealthy love to read vs. 26% of poor.

This is from a website called RichHabitsInstitute.com. It looks to me like a site for people who want to become wealthy, to see what tips they can pick up. A financial advisor put the list on his own website, and there was a firestorm of criticism by people who decided they were "blaming" poor people for being poor. I highly doubt that truly needy people are even looking at websites about how to improve their financial health. The people who jump in and criticize like that probably don't even know any actual poor people, and if someone who
considers himself poor because he is chronically broke has the energy to search out these sites and be offended, all I can say is, if the shoe fits, wear it. I compared myself to the list, I have some of the habits more like poor people, that could be why although I'm far from poor, I'm also far from rich.
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This is from a website called RichHabitsInstitute.com. It looks to me like a site for people who want to become wealthy, to see what tips they can pick up. A financial advisor put the list on his own website, and there was a firestorm of criticism by people who decided they were "blaming" poor people for being poor. I highly doubt that truly needy people are even looking at websites about how to improve their financial health. The people who jump in and criticize like that probably don't even know any actual poor people, and if someone who
considers himself poor because he is chronically broke has the energy to search out these sites and be offended, all I can say is, if the shoe fits, wear it. I compared myself to the list, I have some of the habits more like poor people, that could be why although I'm far from poor, I'm also far from rich.


very true in the fiat system that we have......so when people say  "poor poor poor people" WHAT exactly do they mean? because
they look different and bought 'cheaper' clothes and don't truly want to seek out a home theater to invest in etc etc....but they
like to give that sad sad look to the people who look different, act different because they may not live in a center hall colonial with 5 bedrooms and 5 bathrooms, but live a 3 bedroom with 1 bathroom and call that poor and attempt to turn them into 'feelgood
friends'....or the 'look what I did don't hate me because I have 3 giant flat screens and 3 cars, I give to the poor too"....
kinda like what Paris stupid Hilton and her buddy did there a few years back...pretending to work.....talk about poor poor
stupid rich people.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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1. 70% of wealthy eat less than 300 junk food calories per day. 97% of poor people eat more than 300 junk food calories per day. 23% of wealthy gamble. 52% of poor people gamble.

2. 80% of wealthy are focused on accomplishing some single goal. Only 12% of the poor do this.

3. 76% of wealthy exercise aerobically four days a week. 23% of poor do this.

4. 63% of wealthy listen to audio books during commute to work vs. 5% of poor people.

5. 81% of wealthy maintain a to-do list vs. 19% of poor.

6. 63% of wealthy parents make their children read two or more non-fiction books a month vs. 3% of poor.

7. 70% of wealthy parents make their children volunteer 10 hours or more a month vs. 3% of poor.

8. 80% of wealthy make Happy Birthday calls vs. 11% of poor.

9. 67% of wealthy write down their goals vs. 17% of poor.

10. 88% of wealthy read 30 minutes or more each day for education or career reasons vs. 2% of poor.

11. 6% of wealthy say what’s on their mind vs. 69% of poor.

12. 79% of wealthy network five hours or more each month vs. 16% of poor.

13. 67% of wealthy watch one hour or less of TV every day vs. 23% of poor.

14. 6% of wealthy watch reality TV vs. 78% of poor.

15. 44% of wealthy wake up three hours before work starts vs. 3% of poor.

16. 74% of wealthy teach good daily success habits to their children vs. 1% of poor.

17. 84% of wealthy believe good habits create opportunity luck vs. 4% of poor.

18. 76% of wealthy believe bad habits create detrimental luck vs. 9% of poor.

19. 86% of wealthy believe in lifelong educational self-improvement vs. 5% of poor.

20. 86% of wealthy love to read vs. 26% of poor.


3. 76% of wealthy exercise aerobically four days a week. 23% of poor do this.
The poor are working at buying food and paying the bills.  
The wealthy don't share machines at the YMCA... they often have a room (or a building) for
their exercise equipment, their sauna, their hot tub, their pool, their physical trainer...
Gee? Wonder why the poor don't have that stuff!  

4. 63% of wealthy listen to audio books during commute to work vs. 5% of poor people.
Audio Books?  LMAO!  The poor listen to the bus or the traffic as they walk to work on
"their commute"!
OMG!  Funny!
To listen to 'audio books' you assume the poor own a car, and have a job, and enough spare
dollars to buy audio books and a player!  
Lets see... do I want dinner for myself and my kids... or do I want an audio book on Wall Street
Trading??? Let me see.... I THINK I'LL TAKE F'N DINNER!!!  

5. 81% of wealthy maintain a to-do list vs. 19% of poor.
Rich To DO LIST:
~Plan a polo party this spring...
~Make sure the pool is cleaned on the yacht before we leave for Spain.
~Get the seats reupholstered on our GulfStream.

Poor TO DO LIST:
~Find a way to make a few extra bucks so the kids will have a nutritious meal on Christmas.
~Stop at the Salvation Army to see if they have any used kids shoes that fit my kids.
~Look in the ditch on my walk home from work to see if there are any cans or bottles for redemption.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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4. 63% of wealthy listen to audio books during commute to work vs. 5% of poor people.
Audio Books?  LMAO!  The poor listen to the bus or the traffic as they walk to work on
"their commute"!
OMG!  Funny!
To listen to 'audio books' you assume the poor own a car, and have a job, and enough spare
dollars to buy audio books and a player!  
Lets see... do I want dinner for myself and my kids... or do I want an audio book on Wall Street
Trading??? Let me see.... I THINK I'LL TAKE F'N DINNER!!!    


nope...the working poor that I work with listen to their smart phones on the bus/taxi commute(cost subsidized by company)
$10/hour


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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3. 76% of wealthy exercise aerobically four days a week. 23% of poor do this.
The poor are working at buying food and paying the bills.  
The wealthy don't share machines at the YMCA... they often have a room (or a building) for
their exercise equipment, their sauna, their hot tub, their pool, their physical trainer...
Gee? Wonder why the poor don't have that stuff!    


I'm not 'rich' but I'm richer than folks I work with...I don't have any of that...I have a tv with dvd player and smart phone
just like my 'poor' coworkers....
I choose NOT to go to Y because it STILL COSTS and sweat swapping isn't my to my liking...rich or poor...YUCK!!!!!

a hike is free...rich OR poor


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Oh, for Heaven's sake, Box, you are doing exactly what the people I am talking about did! Taking a list meant for people to measure themselves by, in their quest for wealth, and totally turn it around into look at me! I understand those poor people so much better than they do! look at all my empathy and deep understanding!
I am so very impressed, Box, at your deep understanding of what it is like to be poor. I'm glad you told me.
You know what? When kid A, coming up in Hamilton Hill in Schenectady, grows up in poverty, but still graduates high school, and from there goes on to join the middle class, and moves away, as I've seen FIRSTHAND, and kid B, growing up in similar circumstances, finishes school, and then manages, all things now being EQUAL, kid B goes on to languish in poverty, I think that it might be a good idea to look at personal habits as a factor in where you end up in life, financially.
However, my point with the posting, was to show how a bunch of pious phonies took something useful and twisted it, to make themselves feel better than other people who weren't doing anything wrong.
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5. 81% of wealthy maintain a to-do list vs. 19% of poor.
Rich To DO LIST:
~Plan a polo party this spring...
~Make sure the pool is cleaned on the yacht before we leave for Spain.
~Get the seats reupholstered on our GulfStream.

Poor TO DO LIST:
~Find a way to make a few extra bucks so the kids will have a nutritious meal on Christmas.
~Stop at the Salvation Army to see if they have any used kids shoes that fit my kids.
~Look in the ditch on my walk home from work to see if there are any cans or bottles for redemption.


working poor $10/hour that I work with work a crap load of hours to get as much $$ as they can for xmas and make sure
they don't go over their allotment to qualify for services and then don't work any more hours until next holiday/school season...

this has been the routine for the 20 years I have been working in healthcare...and that was AFTER the fu(king minimum wage
was raised over those 20years.....

so when a person is used to working in the system and getting their housing/food/heating etc subsidized it becomes 'part of
their job' and the government becomes their 'bossman'....no freedom in that....you don't have to work anymore hours because
the essentials are paid for....

as for the REAL poor I'm not sure they have the ability to function in this messed up system...

I'm about to just 'drop down' and
take assistance...why bother owning a home and sh!t!!!!! the value of time spent grinding in this stupid system isn't worth it
over our 70+ years short time on this earth.....

the homeless are more free than you or I...what they make of it I don't know...I don't live in their head...they are tougher than
any soldier who fought for the freedom of the homeless.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Oh, for Heaven's sake, Box, you are doing exactly what the people I am talking about did! Taking a list meant for people to measure themselves by, in their quest for wealth, and totally turn it around into look at me! I understand those poor people so much better than they do! look at all my empathy and deep understanding!
I am so very impressed, Box, at your deep understanding of what it is like to be poor. I'm glad you told me.
You know what? When kid A, coming up in Hamilton Hill in Schenectady, grows up in poverty, but still graduates high school, and from there goes on to join the middle class, and moves away, as I've seen FIRSTHAND, and kid B, growing up in similar circumstances, finishes school, and then manages, all things now being EQUAL, kid B goes on to languish in poverty, I think that it might be a good idea to look at personal habits as a factor in where you end up in life, financially.
However, my point with the posting, was to show how a bunch of pious phonies took something useful and twisted it, to make themselves feel better than other people who weren't doing anything wrong.


Box likes to project empathy....

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em·pa·thy noun \ˈem-pə-thē\
: the feeling that you understand and share another person's experiences and emotions : the ability to share someone else's feelings

Full Definition of EMPATHY

1
:  the imaginative projection of a subjective state into an object so that the object appears to be infused with it
2
:  the action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive to, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experience of another of either the past or present without having the feelings, thoughts, and experience fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner; also :  the capacity for this


empathy isn't bad....but one can lose context/logic/reasoning/respect of what the empathy is for....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I agree with you senders, about the 'real poor'. Where I get fed up is with the self-designated needy, the grown men and women who can't provide themselves with toilet paper, the freeloaders hogging and clogging the system, which makes less to go around for those who haven't got the ability to provide for themselves.
The guy writing about the habits in the first place, I guess he was guilty of using the term "poor" when writing about money and wealth, you can't do that, or the Holy Church of PC comes down on your head. What nobody seems to get is that most millionaires in this country are first generation wealthy. How do I know that? From reading actual research on wealth. That's what that list was, research, and the guy puts it out there, it is just data, but apparently you can't have data out there to analyze for yourself with your own brain, the PC police have to jump in there and tell you what to think about the data, and what conclusions must be reached.
It's like that in Cuba, it is illegal to think certain ways, I wonder why people bothered jumping in inner tubes to come here?
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7. 70% of wealthy parents make their children volunteer 10 hours or
more a month vs. 3% of poor.

When the "rich" "volunteer" it's seldom altruistic.  More often it's for the prestige and to be seen
and noticed.  

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Witnessing the donations made by the rich men, Jesus highlights how a poor
widow donates only two pennies, the least valuable coins available at the time. But,
Jesus observes, this sum was everything she had to her name, while the other people
give only a small portion of their own wealth.


It's been my experience that some wealthy actually give of themselves and their wealth
and so do some poor.  
(This excludes TeaBaggers of course.  They are all selfish B@stards!)  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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7. 70% of wealthy parents make their children volunteer 10 hours or
more a month vs. 3% of poor.

When the "rich" "volunteer" it's seldom altruistic.  More often it's for the prestige and to be seen
and noticed.  




It's been my experience that some wealthy actually give of themselves and their wealth
and so do some poor.  
(This excludes TeaBaggers of course.  They are all selfish B@stards!)  


BINGO!!!!! that's why the 'fair share' argument is wrong.....'fair share' is based on what? by who's standards? the media
hype?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I might as well not donate my measly $20.......I might as well not play the lotto it's only $3million......

my fair share isn't enough and your fair share isn't enough


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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I wonder if the 'poor' can afford to go skiing at Gore Mountain? Or if they even know where it is!

Looks like we all should be donating so even the poor can enjoy winter sports!

Perhaps GOV ALMIGHTY can buy a ski resort, subsidized by the taxpayers so ALL can EQUALLY enjoy!!

I know that me and my family can't afford that luxury!! OMG!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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I wonder if the 'poor' can afford to go skiing at Gore Mountain? Or if they even know where it is!

Looks like we all should be donating so even the poor can enjoy winter sports!

Perhaps GOV ALMIGHTY can buy a ski resort, subsidized by the taxpayers so ALL can EQUALLY enjoy!!

I know that me and my family can't afford that sport!! OMG!!


I wasn't going to respond to Bumbler's bumbling post but I just couldn't resits:
Here ya go Bumbler... Just for you!

NY STATE OWNS GORE MT, BELLEAYRE MT AND WHITEFACE MT
SKI AREAS!


LMAO!!!  I love skiing with Cicero's NY State Tax Dollars!!!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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It should be free skiing for ALL.....even the 'poor'!!!

they should be able to take their family for a nice  day/weekend/week of skiing at the taxpayer's expense.

I mean WHY NOT?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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