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joebxr
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and you don't have to be justified by the rest of us to patronize you above all others.....


I have no idea what you are saying or why,
and I am not addressing you at all.
I've asked nothing of you or others on my behalf,
only that people should show respect for those that this thread was started for.
Maybe you should start there!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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SO is the reverse also true???
IS no CIVILIAN (your group) innocent or is the entire group GUILTY if ONE is GUILTY.
Are you GUILTY for CIVILIAN Atrocities???  Or does your twisted logic only apply to
OTHERS, never to Innocent YOU???



Let's examine your false premise.

You present the argument that there can be only 2 outcomes.

You attempt to justify the actions of the military by blaming only a component.

Please feel free to point out the individual that killed a half million civilians in Vietnam.

A half a million deaths is not a bad apple or two.

It is willful intent.

It is reckless disregard for human life resulting in mass death tolls.

You don't need to prove your innocence.

All I said was there should be a day of acknowledgement and and apology to the families of those half a million civilians.

The US military makes no effort at all to discontinue the practice.

Just as the crypts and bloods continue to shoot bystanders.

Just as they learned it from watching you.









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Yes, YOU just like the Westboro Baptist Church decide what is appropriate... they
protest a funeral... I'm sure your twisted anti military views see nothing wrong with
that!



Apparently you don't know the difference between protesting at a funeral or celebrating the deaths of the soldiers.

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for all of your talk, I'm sure you're glad that our soldiers "murdered" for you some 70 years ago.
Otherwise, you'd be speaking German, Russian, or Japanese and Freedom of Speech would only be in  Historybooks someones recollection


I am not glad that anyone was murdered.

No one has ever killed on my behalf.

Anyone claiming to do so is lying.





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I have no idea what you are saying or why,
and I am not addressing you at all.
I've asked nothing of you or others on my behalf,
only that people should show respect for those that this thread was started for.
Maybe you should start there!


And I ask that people respect my wishes and not claim to be killing civilians for me.

I do not celebrate the deaths of anyone.

Those who honor the soldiers celebrate the deaths of those who dare to oppose the US.


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I have no idea what you are saying or why,
and I am not addressing you at all.
I've asked nothing of you or others on my behalf,
only that people should show respect for those that this thread was started for.
Maybe you should start there!


AGAIN you didn't answer my earlier question....what is your definition of 'respect'? is it different? is it a more special
respect? is it god-like? show respect based on what? who said? why?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I am not glad that anyone was murdered.

No one has ever killed on my behalf.

Anyone claiming to do so is lying.







agree....it's just an accepted premise that war/killing and all the collateral damage are norms to deliver freedom
that is legislated and regulated and makes $$$$ for the world status quo.....

so it must be OK and I'm to believe this without asking....take your Soma and agree......



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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AGAIN you didn't answer my earlier question....what is your definition of 'respect'? is it different? is it a more special
respect? is it god-like? show respect based on what? who said? why?


Where was the respect for the 20,000 Japanese civilians roasted to death?

Or the half million dead Vietnamese civilians?

Like you said, respect is earned.

If you want respect, stop being blood thirsty civilian killing maniacs.


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agree....it's just an accepted premise that war/killing and all the collateral damage are norms to deliver freedom...




Is it acceptable to kill more civilians than soldiers because we can't win unless we use the "kill em all and let God sort it out" method?

It would be a little bit different if we actually won a war.

Then you could say it was necessary and get less resistance.

But slaughtering the innocent wholesale and then leaving without victories seems a lot like population control to me.

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Is it acceptable to kill more civilians than soldiers because we can't win unless we use the "kill em all and let God sort it out" method?

It would be a little bit different if we actually won a war.

Then you could say it was necessary and get less resistance.

But slaughtering the innocent wholesale and then leaving without victories seems a lot like population control to me.




that doesn't seem to be an acceptable view by the status quo....you should know better....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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1. God doesn't hate.

2. God does not want thanks for people who have been killed.

3. God does not want thanks from those that have killed.

4. God wants the sins to be confessed so that they may be forgiven.

It's a very simple process.

Confess/admit your sins and ask forgiveness and it is granted.

Newman confessed and admitted being part of the actions against North Korea.

They accepted his confession and dropped all charges.

The problem we have is that box and those who share his mindset think that killing as many civilians as you need to is acceptable.

They won't even admit that killing a half million Vietnamese civilians was wrong.

It's very simple.

I admitted it and apologized on behalf of our murderous nation.




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that doesn't seem to be an acceptable view by the status quo....you should know better....


Apparently not, but...

Every single military action since 1950 has resulted in more civilian deaths than military deaths.

Sure, they deny it is acceptable, yet it is still happening today.

That is what is commonly known as lying.

They simply won't admit it.


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for all of your talk, I'm sure you're glad that our soldiers "murdered" for you some 70 years ago.
Otherwise, you'd be speaking German, Russian, or Japanese and Freedom of Speech would only be in  Historybooks someones recollection


That's conjecture.  The only attacks on America were a one way suicide missions.  The fact is, a lot of Eastern European people were speaking Russian after WWII.  Ask an East German if they liked the outcome of the war.  

The American people haven't suffered the affects of War since the civil war.  So the only collective view of war is through war propaganda like the commonly used phrase "we'd all be speaking add language here if...".


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ENUF ALREADY.....THE DAY HAS COME AND GONE......THESE FOLKS KEEP IT GOING LIKE A BAD CASE OF DIAHHREA
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"Eastern European people were speaking Russian after WWII"
I find that very interesting. In my travels to Germany, I've never heard of this.
The Germans were amazingly candid about discussing WWII and wanted to
understand views by other countries.
Would love to read about it....can you provide link to info.  I've searched and
found nothing.


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