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Box A Rox
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This was happening long before Sam Walton was born...I know you want to tie everything from Fukashima to Climate Change to Walmart, but c'mon..


OK, I'll post it again:
The WalMart mentality didn't CAUSE Christmas to be on Dec 25, they just exploited a religious
holiday for their own greed.  



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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OK, I'll post it again:
The WalMart mentality didn't CAUSE Christmas to be on Dec 25, they just exploited a religious
holiday for their own greed.  



and I'll post my response..you know, the part you left out since it doesn't fit your DNC talking points:

If you want to talk about Greed... you have to go way beyond retailers... try popular culture...sports and entertainment stars are what most people look up to...and its not what they are.. it's what they earn and what they have...problem is, baiters won't get very far with the public slamming Beyonce and Jennifer Aniston.... it's much easier to get the public on your side slamming the faceless entities.


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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and I'll post my response..you know, the part you left out since it doesn't fit your DNC talking points:

If you want to talk about Greed... you have to go way beyond retailers... try popular culture...sports and entertainment stars are what most people look up to...and its not what they are.. it's what they earn and what they have...problem is, baiters won't get very far with the public slamming Beyonce and Jennifer Aniston.... it's much easier to get the public on your side slamming the faceless entities.


NO I didn't want to talk about Greed... it was only one word in my post about Christmas.
If I wanted to post about GREED, I'd post this:

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises
in moral philosophy;that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness."
-- John Kenneth Galbraith


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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NO I didn't want to talk about Greed... it was only one word in my post about Christmas.
If I wanted to post about GREED, I'd post this:

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises
in moral philosophy;that is, the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness."
-- John Kenneth Galbraith


Umm. yeah... I guess you didn't post this just two hours ago

"Yea!  Rampant Consumerism... a "Christian Value!  "

What you don't want to do is talk about  greed when it involves something other than  conservatives, big business, or Christians...
got it,, thanks for clearing that up


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Umm. yeah... I guess you didn't post this just two hours ago

"Yea!  Rampant Consumerism... a "Christian Value!  "

What you don't want to do is talk about  greed when it involves something other than  conservatives, big business, or Christians...
got it,, thanks for clearing that up


Tbird seems to be confused today.  Just to be clear, "Rampant Consumerism" and
"Greed" are not the same thing.

The term "Rampant Consumerism... a "Christian Value" does not mention  "GREED", does it?

I'd be glad to discuss "GREED" if that's what you want... so why not start a thread on the subject?

(So I hope this cleared up your confusion)  



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Tbird seems to be confused today.  Just to be clear, "Rampant Consumerism" and
"Greed" are not the same thing.

The term "Rampant Consumerism... a "Christian Value" does not mention  "GREED", does it?

I'd be glad to discuss "GREED" if that's what you want... so why not start a thread on the subject?

(So I hope this cleared up your confusion)  



The best definition of rampant consumerism I could find

rampant consumerism means an unchecked or an unrestrained attitude to consumption resulting in an excessive attachment to possessions or alternatively what might be characterized as conspicuous consumption.        

Now compare that to a defintion of greed:
greed  (grd)
n.
An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth: "Many . . . attach to competition the stigma of selfish greed" (Henry Fawcett).


Sounds pretty similiar ...Of course Boxy, won't think so..
Here's another Boxy post in this thread that he'll say has nothing to do with greed
"For most in America, the 'true meaning of Christmas is... "WHAT DID I GET FOR CHRISTMAS!"

I refer to my footer...

"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious."


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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The best definition of rampant consumerism I could find
rampant consumerism means an unchecked or an unrestrained attitude to consumption resulting in an excessive attachment to possessions or alternatively what might be characterized as conspicuous consumption.        
That sure sounds like greed to me...

Lets see, definitions...
Rampant:
~ growing luxuriantly
~ in full sway; prevailing or unchecked


Consumerism:
the concept that an ever-expanding consumption of goods is advantageous to the economy.

greed:
excessive or rapacious desire, especially for wealth or possessions.

Greed it appears is a DESIRE for wealth or possessions
while Rampant Consumerism is prevailing or unchecked ever-expanding consumption
of goods is advantageous to the economy.


Although possibly related to each other, one is not the same as the other.

Sorry Tbird, but your view does not agree with the dictionary.


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Lets see, definitions...
Rampant:
~ growing luxuriantly
~ in full sway; prevailing or unchecked


Consumerism:
the concept that an ever-expanding consumption of goods is advantageous to the economy.

greed:
excessive or rapacious desire, especially for wealth or possessions.

Greed it appears is a DESIRE for wealth or possessions
while Rampant Consumerism is prevailing or unchecked ever-expanding consumption
of goods is advantageous to the economy.


Although possibly related to each other, one is not the same as the other.

Sorry Tbird, but your view does not agree with the dictionary.


Show me where you supposedly found the definition of the phrase, not the words but the phrase...you certainly didn't find it in a dictionary.
My guess is you cobbled up your own, which I took in consideration when writing what is below.

Sorry Tbird, but your view does not agree with the dictionary. Boxy's DNC lexicon...


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Black Friday is just as it should be. Christmas is about Santa Clause. The kids LOVE IT!!!
The parades, the Christmas trees, the lights, the food, the party......and most importantly.....a day off from work!!! It is the biggest economic booster of the year. Stocks sore and in the end will emerge the corporate winners and losers and who will still be around next year. The church baskets make out better too since more folks go to church at Christmas time and feel a bit more generous. It's a win-win!!

For those folks who still look at Christmas as a religious holiday are free to do so, of course.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Sorry Tbird, but your view does not agree with the dictionary. Boxy's DNC lexicon...



My definitions were from dictionary.com.
I didn't know that Dictionary.com was a subsidiary of the DNC!  


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My definitions were from dictionary.com.
I didn't know that Dictionary.com was a subsidiary of the DNC!  


Putting two words together in a phrase is NOT always a simple addition of their individual definitions..but of course, you knew that already.
A simple example is "Black Friday"... haven't seen one yet that is all black


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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Putting two words together in a phrase is NOT always a simple addition of their individual definitions..but of course, you knew that already.
A simple example is "Black Friday"... haven't seen one yet that is all black


Of course I knew that.  That's why I posted separate definitions of the words Rampant and
Consumerism.

Perhaps when you combine those two words, you come out with GREED, but again... as you posted:
"Putting two words together in a phrase is NOT always a simple addition of their individual definitions"


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the early 'christian church' and christ's birthday were great propaganda for the Roman empire....much like the exultation of
Roman soldiers....just like soldiers of today....



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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the 'christmas holiday' was allowed to be taken hostage by the federal government coining it a national holiday...kinda like
saying war is necessary for freedom and we need 'freedom fighters' to promote such group think....

PRICELESS.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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4 Companies Control the U.S. Banking Sector — This Chart Shows How
Benjamin Cosman's avatar image By Benjamin Cosman  19 hours ago 1766 VIEWS  |  361 SHARES
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As of September 30, there are 6,891 federally-insured banks in the United States. While that may seem like a lot, that number is actually down considerably in recent years from a peak of 18,000. And it's trending downward. This summer, the number of U.S. banks dropped below 7,000 for the first time since 1934.

Much of the decline stems from the closure of small banks (less than $100 million in assets), a lot of that coming in the form of bank mergers. Which leaves a very small number of banks controlling a very large share of financial assets in the U.S. In 2010, just 10 financial institutions controlled 54% of financial assets, more than double what they held in 1990.

Taking it one step further, what were 37 banks in 1990 have merged into just four financial behemoths. Check it out:



Source: Mother Jones

Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo now dominate the U.S. financial sector. So much so that startup banks have stopped popping up. The Bank of Bird-in-Hand in Pennsylvania is the first federally approved startup in almost three years.

But maybe the decline of small banks isn’t such a bad thing. Matt Yglesias of Slate argues that, if anything, the U.S. needs even fewer banks. Small banks are poorly managed, harder to regulate, and fail to compete with the financial giants. Competition holds banks accountable, but a local startup bank vs. Chase isn’t much of a competition at all.

Regardless, it’s a stark picture to see just four companies control U.S. banking. These four have become the definition – and poster children – for "too big to fail." And if trends are any indication, it’s only going to get worse.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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