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Libertarian4life
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Just for clarification Henry... How would you classify the link that you posted?

Anti war?
Pro war?
Middle of the road?



How would you classify yourself?

Anti war? = Supporter of peace
Pro war?  = Supporter of death and destruction
Middle of the road? = Supporter of being afraid to express an opinion because you might get targeted.

Box, you are pro-death and pro-government oversight of all that people wish to do.




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Just look at this logic... It's a One Way Street for the HATERS!

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Are you claiming no babies were killed by the military?
You are collectively baby killers.
Entire villages were killed by your collective.
You are the baby killers.



Some Haters blame all US Servicemen for the entire war, and every act in that war.
SO...
BY THAT (FLAWED) LOGIC, lets look down the street in the other direction, OK?
Since everyone in the military is being blamed for any action by anyone in the military...

Then The CIVILIANS Are the Pedophiles of this country...
The CIVILIANS are the murderers of this country...
The CIVILIANS are the masterminds of our WARS...l
The CIVILIANS ARE TO BLAME FOR EVERY CRIME, EVERY MURDER, EVERY RAPE, EVERY WIFE BEATING
THAT HAPPENED IN THIS COUNTRY...
As the HATERS PUT IT:
Are you claiming no babies were killed by CIVILIANS?
You are collectively baby killers.
Thousands were killed by your collective.
You are the baby killers.


HATERS One Way Street logic is really amazing... every one of US Troops, even those
who never served overseas or fired a shot, are guilty...
BUT
HATERS absolve themselves of crimes committed by CIVILIANS... Their Collective Group.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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calling a veteran a hero is like calling jesus god

it's all in what the person themselves labels what they hope to be, actually is.

I'm not saying all veterans are not a hero in a sense
I'm not saying jesus is not god

we do funny things in the world of worship....and it doesn't even have to occur under a steeple......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from Box A Rox
Just look at this logic... It's a One Way Street for the HATERS!



Some Haters blame all US Servicemen for the entire war, and every act in that war.
SO...
BY THAT (FLAWED) LOGIC, lets look down the street in the other direction, OK?
Since everyone in the military is being blamed for any action by anyone in the military...

Then The CIVILIANS Are the Pedophiles of this country...
The CIVILIANS are the murderers of this country...
The CIVILIANS are the masterminds of our WARS...l
The CIVILIANS ARE TO BLAME FOR EVERY CRIME, EVERY MURDER, EVERY RAPE, EVERY WIFE BEATING
THAT HAPPENED IN THIS COUNTRY...
As the HATERS PUT IT:
Are you claiming no babies were killed by CIVILIANS?
You are collectively baby killers.
Thousands were killed by your collective.
You are the baby killers.


HATERS One Way Street logic is really amazing... every one of US Troops, even those
who never served overseas or fired a shot, are guilty...
BUT
HATERS absolve themselves of crimes committed by CIVILIANS... Their Collective Group.


Box, a civilian is a person that doesn't belong to a group or organization.  You don't join the group "civilians" and get trained in the art of organized murder, or any other organized crime.  There is no civilian costume that identify you with the civilian group.  The military has a defined function, it's an organization authorized by a society to use lethal force.  Did you know that when you signed up?  A solider that refuses orders to kill can serve jail time.  I don't believe that to be true of civilians.  


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Box, a civilian is a person that doesn't belong to a group or organization.
You don't join the group "civilians" and get trained in the art of organized
murder, or any other organized crime.  There is no civilian costume that
identify you with the civilian group.  The military has a defined function, it's
an organization authorized by a society to use lethal force.  Did you know
that when you signed up?  A solider that refuses orders to kill can serve jail
time.  I don't believe that to be true of civilians.  


Cissy is bailing out of his group... no surprise there.
Of course Cissy just defined HIS GROUP as one who isn't in the military.  Cissy's
group can elect a President who's aim is Health Care Reform or Cutting Taxes
or Waging a war... but Cissy doesn't vote so he's exempt from any responsibility
and that's the way he likes it.  



Cissy thinks that a cook who spends the entire war in Oklahoma is guilty of MURDER
if some corporal actually DOES commit murder.  Since they are in the same US
Military... any infraction by even one of that group means ALL ARE GUILTY.
Of course in Cissy's group... anarchists,  "murder" in the name of freeing the
masses" is justified.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Just look at this logic... It's a One Way Street for the HATERS!
Some Haters blame all US Servicemen for the entire war, and every act in that war.
SO...
BY THAT (FLAWED) LOGIC, ...





"Some" haters probably do.

I'm not the hater.

You homicidal maniacs are.

You hate me for not supporting and absolving you for your collective atrocities.

By your logic, Nazis should be honored and respected, since not all committed atrocities.


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calling a veteran a hero is like calling jesus god

it's all in what the person themselves labels what they hope to be, actually is.



Heroes don't support the slaughter of civilians.

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Box, a civilian is a person that doesn't belong to a group or organization.  You don't join the group "civilians" and get trained in the art of organized murder, or any other organized crime.  There is no civilian costume that identify you with the civilian group.  The military has a defined function, it's an organization authorized by a society to use lethal force.  Did you know that when you signed up?  A solider that refuses orders to kill can serve jail time.  I don't believe that to be true of civilians.  


Really, you're trying to explain logic to the box of illogical conclusions?

Joining and supporting the US killing machine is exactly the same as not joining and supporting homicidal maniacs.

He will never accept that he willingly joined and fully supported the murder of over a half million Viet Namese civilians.


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Cissy is bailing out of his group... no surprise there.
Of course Cissy just defined HIS GROUP as one who isn't in the military.  Cissy's
group can elect a President who's aim is Health Care Reform or Cutting Taxes
or Waging a war... but Cissy doesn't vote so he's exempt from any responsibility
and that's the way he likes it.  



Cissy thinks that a cook who spends the entire war in Oklahoma is guilty of MURDER
if some corporal actually DOES commit murder.  Since they are in the same US
Military... any infraction by even one of that group means ALL ARE GUILTY.
Of course in Cissy's group... anarchists,  "murder" in the name of freeing the
masses" is justified.


Collective guilt.

You are sworn accomplices.

Obama ran on a platform of powering down the war machine.

You can't blame the voters for his lies.

You just keep trying to blame away the half million civilians that were killed by the group that you joined.


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So the Marine cook who never voted for Nixon is responsible for those killed in the Cambodian
invasion, but  RICHARD NIXON IS EXEMPT FROM ALL BLAME EVEN THOUGH HE WAS THE ONE
WHO ORDERED THE INVASION.

The cook should be jailed...
Nixon is guilt free.
Totally ridiculous!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cissy thinks that a cook who spends the entire war in Oklahoma is guilty of MURDER
if some corporal actually DOES commit murder.  Since they are in the same US
Military... any infraction by even one of that group means ALL ARE GUILTY.
Of course in Cissy's group... anarchists,  "murder" in the name of freeing the
masses" is justified.


The cook in Oklahoma can be ordered to to kill at any time.  He took that oath when he joined.  Though he didn't personally commit the murder, he  took an oath to do so if ordered.  Very different than the civilian.


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The cook in Oklahoma can be ordered to to kill at any time.  He took that oath when he joined.  Though he didn't personally commit the murder, he  took an oath to do so if ordered.  Very different than the civilian.


Maybe I didn't understand your post... but it looks like you are suggesting that anyone in the
us military can be ordered to MURDER, and you say he took an oath to murder if ordered...
Is that really your position Cicero, or are you just posting out of your butt again?


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The cook should be jailed...
Nixon is guilt free.
Totally ridiculous!

If the cook refused order to kill, he would be jailed.  Only in the military is the refusal to conduct antisocial behavior a crime.

Both should be jailed.  But as you see in this great democracy called America, NEITHER are held accountable for these mass atrocities.  All these war crimes, yet nobody holding them responsible.  

Keep pulling that lever.  Maybe the next president will charge Bush as a war criminal.  We know Obama didn't.  That's what hope gets ya.


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If the cook refused order to kill, he would be jailed.  Only in the military is the
refusal to conduct antisocial behavior a crime.



IF you want to see how Cicero runs from his own words, check out his post, then his reply when
I called him out on his charge that US Troops can be ordered to MURDER:
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"The cook in Oklahoma can be ordered to to kill at any time.  He took that oath when he joined.
Though he didn't personally commit the murder, he  took an oath to do so if ordered.
Very different than the civilian.


First Cissy posts MURDER, then he runs from his words.  What happened Cicero... are you
afraid of your own words???
Are you ready to retract your words:
" Though he didn't personally commit the murder, he
  took an oath to do so if ordered.
"
My guess, Cissy will run from his "Commit MURDER if ordered to do so" words
and pretend that he never posted them!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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So the Marine cook who never voted for Nixon is responsible for those killed in the Cambodian
invasion, but  RICHARD NIXON IS EXEMPT FROM ALL BLAME EVEN THOUGH HE WAS THE ONE
WHO ORDERED THE INVASION.

The cook should be jailed...
Nixon is guilt free.
Totally ridiculous!



Stop trying to pass the blame for your collective atrocities.

Just say, "yes, I participated, and I'm not proud of the half a million civilians we killed."



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