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joebxr
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Yah, Henry, you posted this before, so what!
You even admitted it may have happened to a few.
Now you want to say again that it never happened.
Amazing how we have selective belief in articles...if it
supports our belief then it must be true....
if it goes against our beliefs then it must be lies!
Sorry I can't provide a YouTube video for you!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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I don't know why you  bother....really!
This is just a typical REIDRECT....avoiding the real issue regarding folks who are against the killing machine. Folks who have seen the ravages of war. It's blow back. It senseless violent wars. Folks who question the men/women who willing join such a 'killing machine'...and let's not forget....let's celebrate by singing the STAR SPANGLED  BANNER!! It's disgraceful.

and my grandfather was DRAFTED.....he would have NEVER 'joined'! He had NO CHOICE!! Knowing what I do today....he would have been a draft dodger and moved his family to Canada if only draft dodging was in fashion then.....and we would have been  better for it.


The draft was the ultimate use of force against the US citizens.

Imprisonment for failing to join the killing machine the defends no one's freedom.

I'll bet George Washington would spit on soldiers who kill unarmed civilians a half million at a time.

I am completely ashamed that the world views all Americans as part of this massive war machine, that we can't seem to keep from interfering around the world. Spreading death and destruction, leaving trails of bodies behind.


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Libertarian4life
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Yah, Henry, you posted this before, so what!
You even admitted it may have happened to a few.
Now you want to say again that it never happened.
Amazing how we have selective belief in articles...if it
supports our belief then it must be true....
if it goes against our beliefs then it must be lies!
Sorry I can't provide a YouTube video for you!


Hooray, baby killing homicidal maniacs everywhere can now rejoice at their murderous ways being magically justified by someone admitting to spitting!

Half a million dead Viet Namese civilians.

I spit proudly on their behalf.

Go ahead, ridiclue me.

It is meaningless coming from soulless teachers of death and destruction to our children.




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Henry
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Quoted from joebxr


Yah, Henry, you posted this before, so what!
You even admitted it may have happened to a few.
Now you want to say again that it never happened.
Amazing how we have selective belief in articles...if it
supports our belief then it must be true....
if it goes against our beliefs then it must be lies!
Sorry I can't provide a YouTube video for you!


First time I posted that article I believe. And how does it change if this is a myth or not, if it happened to 1 or 2 soldiers and a lie was made saying it was common place guess what part of that story is a lie. Will you at least admit it was not common place and the stories of it being common was a lie?

Here is a GI Joe cartoon which spread the propaganda of this story and sold the story as fact.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Libertarian4life
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The last word???
Lets give the "last word" to the "spitter".  


Proudly spitting on homicidal maniacs since the 60s.

While you honor and respect them.

That's the same type of honor and respect earned by all homicidal gangsta's.


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First time I posted that article I believe. And how does it change if this is a myth or not, if it happened to 1 or 2 soldiers and a lie was made saying it was common place guess what part of that story is a lie. Will you at least admit it was not common place and the stories of it being common was a lie?

Here is a GI Joe cartoon which spread the propaganda of this story and sold the story as fact.


Read my earlier reply...already replied that I never said it was the norm,
but that I experienced it! If it was a common myth or fact or common
occurrence in the 60's, I am not able to comment on that, as I only know of my
own experiences and those of my friends and fellow Vets. To be clear, I have not
heard of any of my Vet friends that experienced it. But many of them have
been subjected to claims of being baby killers...even those that never
set foot in Vietnam.


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JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Henry, unless you experienced the issue, you are in no position to say it didn't happen...
and if you read posts I've made before you would know that I was a victim of this idiocy in 1968.
So if you choose to continue believing it was a fantasy, then that's your issue.

As for bringing it up, it's because Mr. L for L has clearly stated he would spit on me simply because
I'm a Vietnam veteran.  ...


A death and destruction supporting victim?  No psychological issue there.

Because L for L stands Libertarian "for Life."

You are marines "for death."

Death of those who's guilt has not been proven is murder.

You will never escape from people being horrified and insulted for the atrocities committed,
then adding further insult by claiming to be doing for me.




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First you say it never happened....
now you say it may have happened a little....

I don't need you to believe me!
I related what happened and never said it was the norm rather than the exception.
It happened, and I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK!
Your validation is irrelevant to me!
By the way, it happened when I was coming home
from boot camp for Xmas, and 1-1/2 yrs before I went to Nam.


And you still believed you were doing it for them.

You have lived a lifetime of denial.


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Are the soldiers are fighting, dying and killing for THIS??? All for RESOURSES AND CONTROL!!!
Hey.....do I hear the star spangled banner playing somewhere so the sheople can be  brainwashed even more???
Our military folks are starting to smarten up and see the scam for what it is!




You are correct.

They come home to a country that has become the place where everybody just kills their problems.

They serve to defend the freedom of no American citizens.

They serve to kill for world domination and corporate expansion worldwide.

Drugs, oil, political control of all countries, while making corporations rich.

Bankrupting the country in the process.

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First time I posted that article I believe. And how does it change if this is a myth or not, if it happened to 1 or 2 soldiers and a lie was made saying it was common place guess what part of that story is a lie. Will you at least admit it was not common place and the stories of it being common was a lie?

Here is a GI Joe cartoon which spread the propaganda of this story and sold the story as fact.



The moral of the story is "if you don't want to be spit on stop being a baby killing homicidal maniac."

Support life, not death.


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But many of them have
been subjected to claims of being baby killers...even those that never
set foot in Vietnam.


Are you claiming no babies were killed by the military?

You are collectively baby killers.

Entire villages were killed by your collective.

You can't claim the "I wasn't the Nazi who turned on the ovens" defense.

You wear the colors.

You accept the reputation that goes along with it.

You didn't leave the organization when you found out it was committing war crimes.

You are the baby killers.




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It seems some posters are ready today to spit on US troops for their service.

It's funny how some among us will blame the military for going to war.  No one in the US Military has a
vote on going to war... but Civilians DO have a vote and they DO have public political protest that is
not available to US troops in uniform.

Decisions to go to war are made by civilians... not by the military.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from Henry
Spitting on the Troops: Old Myth, New Rumors

By Jerry Lembcke

Just for clarification Henry... How would you classify the link that you posted?

Anti war?
Pro war?
Middle of the road?

Kind of like me using FoxSnooze as a valid link to attack MSNBC!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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There might of been a case or 2 but you know just as much as I do the myth was blown out
of proportion to make it seem as if it were common place, it was not. Most of the myths like
this were lies to discredit the anti-war movement and that is a fact. I don't buy for a second
you were spit on for your service in Nam'.

OK Henry.  You said it didn't happen... Read an eyewitness attesting to the event.
It appears you are wrong and there is a board member willing to dispute your view
that no one spit on Veterans.

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Proudly spitting on homicidal maniacs since the 60s.

While you honor and respect them.

That's the same type of honor and respect earned by all homicidal gangsta's.





The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from Box A Rox
It seems some posters are ready today to spit on US troops for their service.

It's funny how some among us will blame the military for going to war.  No one in the US Military has a
vote on going to war... but Civilians DO have a vote and they DO have public political protest that is
not available to US troops in uniform.

Decisions to go to war are made by civilians... not by the military.


The actual baby killing was not done by civilians.

Plus, stop using the Nuremberg defense, "I was just following orders."

You always had the option of saying no to death and destruction.

You made a willful choice to aid and abet.


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