The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I wonder how Germany, Japan and Vietnam feel about how we celebrate the folks who killed and rapped their innocent men, women and children. How we celebrate with song (the star spangled banner), parades, days off from work, banks close, no mail delivery....blah blah blah.
We kill their innocent, ravage their country, leave emotional scars and our young men and women come back as damaged property!! Hurray....let's celebrate and make it a national holiday!!
THAT-IS-JUST-SICK!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I wonder how Germany, Japan and Vietnam feel about how we celebrate the folks who killed and rapped their innocent men, women and children. How we celebrate with song (the star spangled banner), parades, days off from work, banks close, no mail delivery....blah blah blah.
We kill their innocent, ravage their country, leave emotional scars and our young men and women come back as damaged property!! Hurray....let's celebrate and make it a national holiday!!
THAT-IS-JUST-SICK!!
Don't know about Japan or Germany or other places, but can tell you experience I had today.
In grocery line and heading out the door when I heard a voice asking me to wait up..... It was a Vietnamese gentlemen with his wife. He wanted to ask me a question....thought he needed directions. He said (I'll paraphrase): "Were you in my country? Did you go to Vietnam?" I said yes and he reached out his hand and said "Thank you! Thank you for me and my wife. Thank you for coming to help my people." It turns out he is only a few years younger than me and had served in the South Vietnamese Army during that time. Now I know that there will be plenty of haters on here that will attack this... but I could care less. It was the first time something like this has happened, and it was the most touching and important thing that could have happened to me this day. My new friend and I plan to meet and spend time together. He wants to tell me more about that time in our lives, and I look forward to it....someone who understood!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Don't know about Japan or Germany or other places, but can tell you experience I had today.
In grocery line and heading out the door when I heard a voice asking me to wait up..... It was a Vietnamese gentlemen with his wife. He wanted to ask me a question....thought he needed directions. He said (I'll paraphrase): "Were you in my country? Did you go to Vietnam?" I said yes and he reached out his hand and said "Thank you! Thank you for me and my wife. Thank you for coming to help my people." It turns out he is only a few years younger than me and had served in the South Vietnamese Army during that time. Now I know that there will be plenty of haters on here that will attack this... but I could care less. It was the first time something like this has happened, and it was the most touching and important thing that could have happened to me this day. My new friend and I plan to meet and spend time together. He wants to tell me more about that time in our lives, and I look forward to it....someone who understood!!!
I'm not going to attack your experience. That's not for me to do. It is just that personal.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Don't know about Japan or Germany or other places, but can tell you experience I had today.
In grocery line and heading out the door when I heard a voice asking me to wait up..... It was a Vietnamese gentlemen with his wife. He wanted to ask me a question....thought he needed directions. He said (I'll paraphrase): "Were you in my country? Did you go to Vietnam?" I said yes and he reached out his hand and said "Thank you! Thank you for me and my wife. Thank you for coming to help my people." ...
Once again I must say that performing actions known to likely kill the innocent is initiation of the use of force on non-combatants.
Killing the innocent to further your agenda is the tactics of terrorists.
Civilian deaths in Vietnam war
195,000-430,000 South Vietnamese civilians died in the war.
50,000-65,000 North Vietnamese civilians died in the war
18.2 million gallons of Agent Orange (Dioxin) was sprayed by the U.S. military over more than 10% of Southern Vietnam, as part of the U.S. herbicidal warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam's government claimed that 400,000 people were killed or maimed as a result of after effects, and that 500,000 children were born with birth defects.
That's just about a half a million civilians that won't be shaking any American hands.
Seven massacres officially confirmed by the American side. My Lai and My Khe claimed the largest number of victims with 420 and 90 respectively, and in five other places altogether about 100 civilians were executed. - Two further massacres were reported by soldiers who had taken part in them, one north of Duc Pho in Quang Ngai Province in the summer of 1968 (14 victims), another in Binh Dinh province on 20 July 1969 (25 victims). - Tiger Force, a special operations force, murdered hundreds, possibly over a thousand, civilians. - In the course of large-scale operations an unknown number of non-combatants were killed either accidentally or deliberately – with some estimating more than 5,000 allegedly died in the course of Operation Speedy Express. Excluding deaths from artillery and air attacks, the total number of victims may have reached tens of thousands during the entire war. - According to the 'Information Bureau of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of South Vietnam' (PRG), between April 1968 and the end of 1970 American ground troops killed about 6,500 civilians in the course of twenty-one operations either on their own or alongside their allies. Three of the massacres reported on the American side were not mentioned on the PRG list.
There is absolutely no justification for any of the above deaths.
As a Libertarian, and also a human being with the ability to differentiate right from wrong, I cannot support any organization that commits these types of unjustified deaths.
These same actions knowingly likely to kill the innocent, are still being used today.
I wonder how Germany, Japan and Vietnam feel about how we celebrate the folks who killed and rapped their innocent men, women and children. How we celebrate with song (the star spangled banner), parades, days off from work, banks close, no mail delivery....blah blah blah.
We kill their innocent, ravage their country, leave emotional scars and our young men and women come back as damaged property!! Hurray....let's celebrate and make it a national holiday!!
THAT-IS-JUST-SICK!!
Celebrating death and supporting killers is something I want no part of.
If you abominate robbery, this is what war teaches; if you abhor murder, this is the lesson of war. For who will shrink from killing one man in hot blood when he has been hired for a pittance to slaughter so many? If neglect of the law is the most imminent threat to civil authority, why, ‘the law says nothing when arms hold sway.’ If you believe that fornication, incest, and worse are loathsome evils, war is the school where these are taught. If irreverence for and neglect of religion is the source of every evil, religion is entirely swept away by the storm of war. If you judge the state of your country to be worst when the worst people in it have the most power, in time of war the lowest kinds of criminal are the rulers; was has most need of those whom in time of peace you would nail to the cross.
If you abominate robbery, this is what war teaches; if you abhor murder, this is the lesson of war. For who will shrink from killing one man in hot blood when he has been hired for a pittance to slaughter so many? If neglect of the law is the most imminent threat to civil authority, why, ‘the law says nothing when arms hold sway.’ If you believe that fornication, incest, and worse are loathsome evils, war is the school where these are taught. If irreverence for and neglect of religion is the source of every evil, religion is entirely swept away by the storm of war. If you judge the state of your country to be worst when the worst people in it have the most power, in time of war the lowest kinds of criminal are the rulers; was has most need of those whom in time of peace you would nail to the cross.
LewRockwell by Laurence M. Vance
Cissy seems addicted!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
My grandfather, and those that emerged damaged from the ravages of war, had a moral thread running thru them BEFORE they entered the military. Killing and violence was NOT part of their moral fiber. My grandfather, and many other war veterans, lived and continue to live the rest of their lives with the sights, sounds and murder that 'they' were 'forced' to take a part in. He and many others 'lived' with the guilt and were unable to forgive themselves for these atrocities they committed in the name of God and country. My grandfather never made it fully back into a loving society he left behind before the war. He left society with the memory of a loving family and a young pregnant wife and came back a trained killer.
My grandfather was absolute proof of that.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Most Americans do honor our veterans, but as you can see, a very few actually Hate US Vets.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Most Americans do honor our veterans, but as you can see, a very few actually Hate US Vets.
Nope don't hate, just don't see the glorification some get especially when a conflict has nothing to do with us
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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