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Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on US
Will Americans ever know the full story of what happened in BChinese state-run media revealed for the first time this week that Beijing’s nuclear submarines can attack American cities as a means to counterbalance U.S. nuclear deterrence in the Pacific.
On Monday, leading media outlets including China Central TV, the People’s Daily, the Global Times, the PLA Daily, the China Youth Daily and the Guangmin Daily ran identical, top-headlined reports about the “awesomeness” of the People's Liberation Army navy’s strategic submarine force.

“This is the first time in 42 years since the establishment of our navy’s strategic submarine force that we reveal on such a large scale the secrets of our first-generation underwater nuclear force,” the Global Times said in a lengthy article titled “China for the First Time Possesses Effective Underwater Nuclear Deterrence against the United States.”

The article features 30 photos and graphics detailing, among other things, damage projections for Seattle and Los Angeles after being hit by Chinese nuclear warheads and the deadly radiation that would spread all the way to Chicago.

China’s sub fleet is reportedly the world’s second-largest, with about 70 vessels. About 10 are nuclear-powered, and four or more of those are nuclear ballistic submarines capable of launching missiles.

Heavily influenced by Soviet naval models that stressed underwater forces, China’s nuclear submarine development began with the reverse-engineering of a Soviet Golf-class conventional-powered sub in the 1950s.

In the 1980s, China developed its first ballistic missile sub, the Type 092 Xia-class, which has 12 launch tubes for the Julang (Giant Wave)-1 missiles. The JL-1 had a limited range and failed multiple test launches.

In 2010, a new class of missile sub, the Type 094 Jin class, entered the service. It is capable of launching 12 to 16 JL-2 missiles with a range of about 8,700 miles, covering much of the continental U.S. with single or multiple, independently targetable re-entry vehicle warheads.

Chinese calculations for nuclear attacks on the U.S. are chillingly macabre.

“Because the Midwest states of the U.S. are sparsely populated, in order to increase the lethality, [our] nuclear attacks should mainly target the key cities on the West Coast of the United States, such as Seattle, Los Angeles, San Francisco and San Diego,” the Global Times said.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com.....despr/#ixzz2jOSmfvnQ

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so what?? It's the nuclear deterrent ...
either Country launches an attack, the other responds and both are laid to waste...


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so what?? It's the nuclear deterrent ...
either Country launches an attack, the other responds and both are laid to waste...


Exactly! More smoke and mirrors!


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China decommissions first nuclear submarine
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October 29, 2013  Beijing: China has decommissioned its first nuclear-powered submarine
after more than 40 years of service amidst the maiden display of its fleet of atomic submarines.

Though the media has not revealed the number of nuclear submarines, international defence
experts estimate China has eight to 10 such vessels backed by 50 to 60 diesel and electric
submarines.




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so what?? It's the nuclear deterrent ...
either Country launches an attack, the other responds and both are laid to waste...


Except that US nukes will kill 150 million Chinese at a time.

Chinese nukes could kill maybe 10% of that.

China has 2 billion people

The US has 0.3 billion.
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OH FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE..............Russia has been able to do the same thing since the 60's!!!!!

With todays satellites.....they would be blown out of the sky before they ever reached the earth....everybody knows that!!!

subs and rockets are old fashion now..........they can make a nuke, put it in a back pack and BANG!!!

the capability was ALWAYS there..........just ask anyone serving in the armed forces....past and present!


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OH FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE..............Russia has been able to do the same thing since the 60's!!!!!

With todays satellites.....they would be blown out of the sky before they ever reached the earth....everybody knows that!!!

subs and rockets are old fashion now..........they can make a nuke, put it in a back pack and BANG!!!

the capability was ALWAYS there..........just ask anyone serving in the armed forces....past and present!


"With todays satellites.....they would be blown out of the sky before they ever
reached the earth....everybody knows that!!!"

HUH!  I don't know that.
  Please post the source so I can learn more about it.


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"With todays satellites.....they would be blown out of the sky before they ever
reached the earth....everybody knows that!!!"

HUH!  I don't know that.
  Please post the source so I can learn more about it.


He heard it from a friend whose son is married to a lady that works at
Walmart, that heard it from the girl in the nail salon, whose
husband works as a house painter!    


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Our nephew is in the Marines and our best friend's son-in-law is in the air force.

BOTH....high security jobs....TRUTH!

You folks don't have a clue!!!

Yer not in Vietnam anymore  boys and girls!!


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Its actually pretty well known, our missile defense systems have been in place for years, we now have the capability to shoot ICBM's right out of the air.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Our nephew is in the Marines and our best friend's son-in-law is in the air force.

BOTH....high security jobs....TRUTH!

You folks don't have a clue!!!

Yer not in Vietnam anymore  boys and girls!!


So... Either this is a top secret weapons system that no one knows about... and these
two "high security" people blabbed...
OR...
This is a weapons system that is public knowledge that I just haven't heard of and Bumbler
won't post a link...
OR...
Bumbler is posting out of his butt again!  


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Its actually pretty well known, our missile defense systems have been in place for years, we now have the capability to shoot ICBM's right out of the air.


Are you talking about the Patriot missiles???   They've been around for a long time but weren't very
effective against even old "first gulf war" scud missles.

I remember the "star wars" weapons systems in the Reagan era.  They were proposed but never funded.


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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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So... Either this is a top secret weapons system that no one knows about... and these
two "high security" people blabbed...
OR...
This is a weapons system that is public knowledge that I just haven't heard of and Bumbler
won't post a link...
OR...
Bumbler is posting out of his butt again!  


I vote for "butt"!

"BOTH....high security jobs....TRUTH!"
If that is true and they are telling people this information,
then they have no place in any security position, not even Mall cop!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Henry,
The system that you posted in the video is an onboard defense system and the Obama Administration
has also proposed two land based systems in Europe.

As of this month, the system (as near as I can tell) is still in the test and development stages and
not deployed for use that would be effective for an attack on US soil.
See below for test data:

October 04, 2013, DOD
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Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System Completes Successful Intercept Flight Test

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=16291


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