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QUICK! Lets pass a Reichstag Law!!!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Reading Cicero's twisted logic, you can understand why he hates compulsory education.  If he didn't
learn anything... he doesn't want anyone to learn anything.  


Twisted logic?  You said all weapons aren't equal.  You don't think it would be best if everybody could protect themselves from violent people if they only had access to an equal weapon?  


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Twisted logic?  You said all weapons aren't equal.  You don't think it would be best if everybody could protect themselves from violent people if they only had access to an equal weapon?  


It's the entire argument that is flawed.  I and many others would be very capable of 'defending
myself with an AR15.  Many Americans would not.  So everyone having the same weapon would
not create your illusion of 'equal weapons.

If a dozen of us were threatened with one person with a chemical weapon... it's likely our weapons
would be useless... if our opponent had only a chemical weapon and a gas mask.
An expert with a bow and arrow could take out 5 or 6 people with machine guns if that 5 or 6
didn't know how to use a machine gun.

YES TWISTED LOGIC.  As if every American having access to all weapons would some how
create some kind of "weapon equality" and we'd all be safer.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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It's the entire argument that is flawed.  I and many others would be very capable of 'defending
myself with an AR15.  Many Americans would not.  So everyone having the same weapon would
not create your illusion of 'equal weapons.


Sure it would.  Not flawed at all.  It's actually very progressive and supports equality.  One class of people shouldn't have greater access to weapons than others.   I believe in equal access to equal weapons, not equal skills with the weapon.  You're a public education guy, give everybody equal access to training on the AR15 in gubmint skoolz.


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Sure it would.  Not flawed at all.  It's actually very progressive and supports equality.  One class of people shouldn't have greater access to weapons than others.   I believe in equal access to equal weapons, not equal skills with the weapon.  You're a public education guy, give everybody equal access to training on the AR15 in gubmint skoolz.


Or eliminate the weapon... also equal access.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Or eliminate the weapon... also equal access.


For EVERYBODY, including gubmint agents?  Or do you still believe there is a special class of Americans that are exempt?


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Before Henry jumps on the Military yet again, don't forget that most of the crazies are not let
into the military or if they do manage to get in, there is a good chance that they will be rejected
once in the military.
As to military training... Most of those who went to Vietnam never fired their weapons.  There were 8-10
in the rear with the gear, for every actual infantry man who engaged the enemy.
Do you consider those who were "well trained by the military" to pump gas, or clerks who worked in
an office to be "deadlier" than a civilian who did the same job?



As stated already they were trained to kill, it doesn't matter what job they take after boot camp, he didn't need to see action when the art of death was already engraved into his head.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Before Henry jumps on the Military yet again, don't forget that most of the crazies are not let
into the military or if they do manage to get in, there is a good chance that they will be rejected
once in the military.
As to military training... Most of those who went to Vietnam never fired their weapons.  There were 8-10
in the rear with the gear, for every actual infantry man who engaged the enemy.
Do you consider those who were "well trained by the military" to pump gas, or clerks who worked in
an office to be "deadlier" than a civilian who did the same job?





they don't have to be 'good' at firing the weapon....they just need their brain to tell their muscles to do it....
do you consider a bow hunter who is good at gutting a deer deadlier than mommy in the kitchen with a steak knife...

the military HAVE FU(KING GUN CONTROL LAWS......
the police HAVE FU(KING GUN CONTROL LAWS.......

you can grow your brain to accept shooting as a norm by playing any first player shooter games and be 'good'....

GUN CONTROL LAWS DON'T DO SQUAT


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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As stated already they were trained to kill, it doesn't matter what job they take after boot camp, he didn't need to see action when the art of death was already engraved into his head.


but it's 'safely' engraved......with 'rules'...hahahahahahahahahaha.....war is not normal so whatever those 'rules' are,
they are arbitrary.....if you can get a bunch of uniforms to believe those who put the guns into their hands are in
the righteous way, then BINGO!!!!

A Clockwork Orange


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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For EVERYBODY, including gubmint agents?  Or do you still believe there is a special class of Americans that are exempt?


Follow Cissy's silly logic further...
"Why Should the Cops Have All the Fun Speeding...
I WANT FLASHING RED LIGHTS AND A SIREN TOO!"


OR

"WHY SHOULD ONLY COPS PUT THEIR LIVES IN DANGER ANSWERING DANGEROUS CALLS...
WHY SHOULDN'T ALL CITIZENS BE FORCED TO DO THAT DANGEROUS WORK." (Equal opportunity)


Cissy's point of view is so ridiculous it doesn't even warrant a reply!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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but it's 'safely' engraved......with 'rules'...hahahahahahahahahaha.....war is not normal so whatever those 'rules' are,
they are arbitrary.....if you can get a bunch of uniforms to believe those who put the guns into their hands are in
the righteous way, then BINGO!!!!

A Clockwork Orange


A singer in a smokey room
A smell of wine and cheap perfume
For a smile they can share the night
It goes on and on and on and on


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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A singer in a smokey room
A smell of wine and cheap perfume
For a smile they can share the night
It goes on and on and on and on


small minds apparently require smaller answers....I'll try to accommodate you


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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small minds apparently require smaller answers....I'll try to accommodate you


Television mass mind control
Examples of what is correct
Are sold.
And what is not.
Through cathode rays beliefs
Opinions are presented as fact.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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I closed my eyes and the sun was gone, turned on some music to start my day, I lost myself in a familiar song, I closed my eyes and I slipped away


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Follow Cissy's silly logic further...
"Why Should the Cops Have All the Fun Speeding...
I WANT FLASHING RED LIGHTS AND A SIREN TOO!"


OR

"WHY SHOULD ONLY COPS PUT THEIR LIVES IN DANGER ANSWERING DANGEROUS CALLS...
WHY SHOULDN'T ALL CITIZENS BE FORCED TO DO THAT DANGEROUS WORK." (Equal opportunity)


Cissy's point of view is so ridiculous it doesn't even warrant a reply!


You false analogy logic is incorrect.  I didn't say anything about speeding and sirens.  

Cops aren't forced to do dangerous work, they choose to do it and get paid.  You suggest citizens be forced to restrict their weapon options while a select group of citizens have access to more powerful weapons.  I do not suggest restricting weapons for government agents, but giving them the same access as the rest of the citizens.

You still never answered why one class of citizen gets access to more powerful weapon than other citizens?  Why does one group need more powerful weapons?


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