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"They"....seriously???? Assuming you are lumping me in that category.
You just keep getting it wrong by trying to make me someone I'm not.
Didn't realize that it's so important for you to know everything about me and fabricate who I am
and what I stand for if I don't tell you the details you want....really kinda creepy!


When you piped in and commented on my post, which was in response to sombody's post that suggested criminalizing student loan default, I figured you were defending sombody's position.  Now that you clearly state your position, I wonder why you made that post in the first place, since you don't agree with criminalizing default.


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These Nazis even want to recreate debtor's prison! Holy crap/thought their lust for control/power and tyranny had some limits


3rd Nazi Post Today!  

"Graham seems to be fixated with Nazis, gas chambers and communists.  It doesn't matter what the
subject, Graham manages to work his fixation into the text."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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When you piped in and commented on my post, which was in response to sombody's post that suggested criminalizing student loan default, I figured you were defending sombody's position.  Now that you clearly state your position, I wonder why you made that post in the first place, since you don't agree with criminalizing default.


Go back and read several of the posts and maybe you'll figure it out without my help.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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When you piped in and commented on my post, which was in response to sombody's post that suggested criminalizing student loan default, I figured you were defending sombody's position.  Now that you clearly state your position, I wonder why you made that post in the first place, since you don't agree with criminalizing default.


jaywalking is more of a crime than illegal immigration-  


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jaywalking is more of a crime than illegal immigration-  


Really?  I get the analogy you are trying for, and I would agree if there was no government social welfare.  But in this case, many of the jaywalkers are crossing the street expecting free healthcare and housing.


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Tell that to these little girls:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/23/texas-police-arrest-2-illegal-immigrants-gang-rape/
http://www.wwaytv3.com/2012/05/11/illegal-immigrant-pleads-guilty-to-raping-6-year-old-girl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3070680/posts
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Sex-Predator-Terrorized-Little-GirlPolice-131844788.html
http://immigrationclearinghouse.org/illegal-alien-charged-with-raping-13-year-old-girl-in-nebraska/
http://www.stltoday.com/news/l.....5e-001a4bcf6878.html

This toddler:
http://www.njcic.com/njcic-news/deported-illegal-immigrant-rapes-kills-1-month-baby.htm

These people who had their identities stolen:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/2256.....turn-identity-theft/
http://cjonline.com/news/2013-03-25/topeka-illegal-immigrant-sentenced-identity-theft
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013.....-in-18-month-prison/

This woman:
http://www.ketv.com/news/local.....1l8tiqz/-/index.html

Here is one about a jaywalker who the liberal demoCRAPS hold up as a hero:
http://mediatrackers.org/monta.....es-child-rape-incest

This lady:
http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-who-put-nj-woman-a-coma-gets-9-years-prison-600-fine

This person:
http://www.examiner.com/article/previously-deported-illegal-alien-charged-with-fatal-dui-utah

These farm animals:
http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-charged-with-raping-farm-animals-la

There are thousands of cases if you have the time, but the scum of the earth democrap has focused on destroying America and Americans who stand up for America. I focus my intentions on him and his loved ones getting terminal diseases without cures. I also hope he gets his identity stolen by one of his buddies who he loves so much. That would be a hoot! Karma is a b**ch! When a virulent democrap goes into the ground from a terminal illness, I party. I know that my intentions contribute to that. One of them recent schit the bed a few months ago at a young age. Too bad, how sad. You try to destroy people and look how it comes around. It will come you way too. Karmaaaaaaa! YEAH!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Tell that to these little girls:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/23/texas-police-arrest-2-illegal-immigrants-gang-rape/
http://www.wwaytv3.com/2012/05/11/illegal-immigrant-pleads-guilty-to-raping-6-year-old-girl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3070680/posts
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Sex-Predator-Terrorized-Little-GirlPolice-131844788.html
http://immigrationclearinghouse.org/illegal-alien-charged-with-raping-13-year-old-girl-in-nebraska/
http://www.stltoday.com/news/l.....5e-001a4bcf6878.html

This toddler:
http://www.njcic.com/njcic-news/deported-illegal-immigrant-rapes-kills-1-month-baby.htm

These people who had their identities stolen:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/2256.....turn-identity-theft/
http://cjonline.com/news/2013-03-25/topeka-illegal-immigrant-sentenced-identity-theft
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013.....-in-18-month-prison/

This woman:
http://www.ketv.com/news/local.....1l8tiqz/-/index.html

Here is one about a jaywalker who the liberal demoCRAPS hold up as a hero:
http://mediatrackers.org/monta.....es-child-rape-incest

This lady:
http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-who-put-nj-woman-a-coma-gets-9-years-prison-600-fine

This person:
http://www.examiner.com/article/previously-deported-illegal-alien-charged-with-fatal-dui-utah

These farm animals:
http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-charged-with-raping-farm-animals-la

There are thousands of cases if you have the time, but the scum of the earth democrap has focused on destroying America and Americans who stand up for America. I focus my intentions on him and his loved ones getting terminal diseases without cures. I also hope he gets his identity stolen by one of his buddies who he loves so much. That would be a hoot! Karma is a b**ch! When a virulent democrap goes into the ground from a terminal illness, I party. I know that my intentions contribute to that. One of them recent schit the bed a few months ago at a young age. Too bad, how sad. You try to destroy people and look how it comes around. It will come you way too. Karmaaaaaaa! YEAH!


did a Mexican with a leaf blower wake you up this morning ?


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Quoted from GrahamBonnet

There are thousands of cases if you have the time, but the scum of the earth democrap has focused on destroying America and Americans who stand up for America.


Are you talking about Obama or his clone that shills for him here?

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I focus my intentions on him and his loved ones getting terminal diseases without cures. I also hope he gets his identity stolen by one of his buddies who he loves so much. That would be a hoot! Karma is a b**ch! When a virulent democrap goes into the ground from a terminal illness, I party. I know that my intentions contribute to that. One of them recent schit the bed a few months ago at a young age. Too bad, how sad. You try to destroy people and look how it comes around. It will come you way too. Karmaaaaaaa! YEAH!


I don't think you really understand the Philosophy of Karma.

Your stated "bad intentions" being directed against loved ones of the one you hate, is misguided
at the very least.

If we held all Mexicans accountable for the child rapists among them, it would be like condemning all
religion because of the molesters in their ranks.

Here is some advice.  

Learn to control the hatred for groups based on the actions of individuals.

I realize it is hard, but it isn't right to hate all the, as you say, "Muzzies, Mexicans, Police, and democraps"
based on the actions of some of them.

The hate will cause more harm to you, than to those you seek to cause punishment to, with your wishful intent.

You seem to be becoming drawn into the occult and magick.

You would be better served by using the power of intention to heal the person and seek him to change
in a positive manner. Pushing negative intentions his way will merely empower him further in his negative
actions.

Do no harm.

Attempting to cause pain and suffering through the use of intent is contrary to your goals.

Seeking to stop a person causing pain and suffering to others, by wishing pain and suffering on him,
again, adds to his negativity.

People that feel they must kill others, or make people suffer must be given good intent, not
supporting and refueling their negative beliefs and actions.

In a world full of negativity and hatred, adding more hatred and negativity will be self defeating.

Sure the morons support, murder, death, pain and suffering.  That's all they know and understand.

People need to learn to say no to these ideas and set them on the proper course.
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I realize it is hard, but it isn't right to hate all the, as you say, "Muzzies, Mexicans, Police, and democraps"
based on the actions of some of them.


Being Mexican isn't a belief system.  I would say you are correct that you shouldn't hate someone because of what they are born.  Same can be said for Muslims or any religion, because many times children are raised in that belief system without choice, and their actions my reflect the teachings of an extreme religious leader.  Now police?  That is a choice that an adult chooses to identify with knowing what their job duties are.  Knowing what your job will be as a cop means you choose to extort money, detain, restrain, and incarcerate your fellow citizens based on arbitrary laws.  That takes a special sociopath to wake up everyday and put a costume on so you can fu(k with people.  


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Being Mexican isn't a belief system.  I would say you are correct that you shouldn't hate someone because of what they are born.  Same can be said for Muslims or any religion, because many times children are raised in that belief system without choice, and their actions my reflect the teachings of an extreme religious leader.  Now police?  That is a choice that an adult chooses to identify with knowing what their job duties are.  Knowing what your job will be as a cop means you choose to extort money, detain, restrain, and incarcerate your fellow citizens based on arbitrary laws.  That takes a special sociopath to wake up everyday and put a costume on so you can fu(k with people.  


While I am not disagreeing with your conclusion, you base it on a faulty premise that only a special sociopath would put on a costume to fucck with people.

Knowing what your job will be as a cop means you choose to extort money, detain, restrain, and incarcerate your fellow citizens based on arbitrary laws

These functions are not the only reasons or duties of the police.

The point I was trying to make to GB was that hating them and wishing them illness or death is no way to correct the concerns.

Hate the actions, not the group of people who share similar characteristics.

All persons that put on a costume are not sociopaths who choose to extort money, detain, restrain,
and incarcerate your fellow citizens based on arbitrary laws.

Some people actually become police to change the system from the inside.

Sure most of them fall victim to the overwhelming dark side, but most enter into the job with good intentions.

Dealing with people every day and arresting them for things that they know shouldn't be illegal makes many
adopt an attitude of take what I can get for myself, because I can't change anything. Do what I'm told, and
go home and forget about the job.

Sure some are homicidal haters of non-Americans, who go out of their way to make life miserable and cause
suffering, just as GB wishes. But these beliefs are held by people of all kinds of occupations.

There are racist, child-raping priests, Mexicans, Muslims, Jews, or any other group.

Hating the actions is valid, hating the groups is not.

Some people hate paying into socialist tax schemes against their wishes. ""Some"" even call it extortion.

Does that mean that you should hate every person who supports these "extortionists"?

Should these extortionists create terrorist watch lists for all people who feel threatened by them?

You can't reduce bigotry by adding more bigotry.

Mexicans are people.

Police are people.

All should be treated equally under the law unless they give a reason to take action against them
for their actions alone, not for whatever group they resemble.

Imagine being a Mexican coming to the US where everyone should be treated as equals and running
into people like GB who blame them for ruining their country.

Should peaceful wannabee immigrants be denied entry at gunpoint to the land of equality and freedom?

Should guns be used to solve "all" problems?

Of course not, but it is the leading use of force that backs up all laws.

Will more guns at the border enhance our belief in equality for all men, not just Americans?

We throw self defeating solutions at nearly every problem.

Should everyone stockpile weapons in case the militarized police turn on us?

What would it accomplish?

People need to be less dependent on the police and reduce their numbers not by adding more
guns and violence, but by addressing the issues that cause the need for so many police.

Taking away everyone's guns will only create a bigger need for more police.

It's a bad idea.

The people and the police need to learn to co-exist on the same side.

By addressing the issues that divide the people from the police.

Remove the issues and everyone will be on the same side.

Sure there are millions of issues, but you have to pick just one and resolve it.

Prohibition is a prime example. It divided the country. It failed, we learned from it and moved on.

Sort of. The government just took over all oversight of all alcohol production and distribution and
issued licenses to those deemed worthy. Still a heavy police presence, but much improved from
the days of prohibition.

Legalization and free market would have put us all on the same side completely.

Legalization and heavy regulation causes us to still be divided.

Licenses granting reduced competition allows price gouging.

So people spend their days trying to find ways around the regulations and the law
spends their days trying to catch them.

Deregulation and free markets.

No regulations to enforce ends the law vs the people approach.

Every law, every regulation creates a greater division.
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Every law, every regulation creates a greater division.


If every law and every regulation is meant to divide, wouldn't the cop be the muscle hired to enforce the division using threats of violence?  

Sure, I understand that a percentage of their job is showing up to domestic dispute calls and high school house parties, but the majority of it is hiding on the side of the road waiting for a reason to pull somebody over and ticket them.  Or like the title of thread, kick down the door of a 100 year old and kill him.


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If every law and every regulation is meant to divide, wouldn't the cop be the muscle hired to enforce the division using threats of violence?  

Sure, I understand that a percentage of their job is showing up to domestic dispute calls and high school house parties, but the majority of it is hiding on the side of the road waiting for a reason to pull somebody over and ticket them.  Or like the title of thread, kick down the door of a 100 year old and kill him.


Exactly my point.

We must learn to not need a SWAT team to deal with a cranky old man.

Society has lost all ability to handle situations without deadly force.

The government justifies it every day.

People must make changes.

Without using their tactics.

Use of force must be powered down.

Defunded.
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If every law and every regulation is meant to divide...


Laws aren't created to divide. They are created to favor one party over another.

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