Quoted from Box A Rox

Breitbart?  

You must be posting about another Breitbart right???

Not the Breitbart who posted the "video evidence" of Shirley Sherrod's "racism" ???
That Breitbart?
Or the Breitbart who posted the bogus story about "Nationwide ACORN child prostitution investigation" ?
That Breitbart?
Or the Bertha Lewis' nonexistent White House visit?
That Breitbart?
Or the Breitbart release of "shocking" video of community organizers "praying" to Obama?
Is that the Breitbart you are quoting???
Or how about the Breitbart story concerning the  "Transvestites, Mao And Obama Ornaments
Decorate White House Christmas Tree."
You MUST be quoting from a 'different' Breitbart... Right???

Errr...Ok. I'll post Forbes, but  it's not any better.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2013/10/30/the-worlds-most-powerful-people-2013/

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The World's Most Powerful People 2013

Who’s more powerful: the autocratic leader of a former superpower or the handcuffed commander in chief of the most dominant country in the world? This year the votes for the World’s Most Powerful went to Russian President Vladimir Putin. He climbs one spot ahead of U.S. President Barack Obama, who held the title in 2012.

Putin has solidified his control over Russia while Obama’s lame duck period has seemingly set in earlier than usual for a two-term president — latest example: the government shutdown mess. Anyone watching this year’s chess match over Syria and NSA leaks has a clear idea of the shifting individual power dynamics.

DERP!

Quoted from BuckStrider

Errr...Ok. I'll post Forbes, but  it's not any better.

Obama' record election victory in '12 was a statement from the people of their support...
But
With the obstructionist GOP, who hate Obama more than they love America, the power of this
presidency is viewed in the backdrop of a Republican House who were willing to shut down the
govt for no actual purpose other than because they can.


Putin's power happens in a vacuum of Russia, while Obama's in a democracy.  \

After the two dropped Atomic Bombs, the Japanese war council met at the Emperors residence. They voted on whether to surrender or not, they tied...tied after two atomic bombs..
It was Hirohito who broke the tie..The Japanese people were lockstep in their allegiance to the Emperor AND the Prime minister.. If they had not said surrender, they would not have.
Japanese reaction to US troops in Saipan and Okinawa was an example of this. They were told by the  gov't that Americans were cannibals and they would eat them.. They decided to jump to their death by the hundreds into the sea. Examples of the troops fighting to the last man can be found starting from GuadalCanal and continuing all the way to Okinawa

Eisenhower can say want he wants, but he could not control the Japanese people. The US would have fought a conventional ground war for months and a Guerrilla war for years, amounting to more Japanese deaths than the A-bombs and certainly more US deaths.

Quoted from 55tbird

After the two dropped Atomic Bombs, the Japanese war council met at the Emperors residence. They voted on whether to surrender or not, they tied...tied after two atomic bombs..
It was Hirohito who broke the tie..The Japanese people were lockstep in their allegiance to the Emperor AND the Prime minister.. If they had not said surrender, they would not have.
Japanese reaction to US troops in Saipan and Okinawa was an example of this. They were told by the  gov't that Americans were cannibals and they would eat them.. They decided to jump to their death by the hundreds into the sea. Examples of the troops fighting to the last man can be found starting from GuadalCanal and continuing all the way to Okinawa

Eisenhower can say want he wants, but he could not control the Japanese people. The US would have fought a conventional ground war for months and a Guerrilla war for years, amounting to more Japanese deaths than the A-bombs and certainly more US deaths.

That is your opinion Tbird, and we are all entitled to our opinion.  I just assumed that your view was
true for much of my life.  Then I started reading an opposing view, which has only grown stronger
over the years.
Many historians consider Russia entering the war against the Japanese as the deciding factor.  Others
have made a case that Japan was involved in back channel negotiations for surrender long before
the A bombings.

Since I (and presume you) have no personal knowledge of the event, I can only quote historians and
generals who were involved at the time for my information.

When a story like this one lingers, you need to look at what is at stake if one side is proven wrong.
The A bomb was not the most lethal weapon unleashed on Japan as the number of casualties was
less in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, than was incurred in the Firebombing of Tokyo.

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On the night of 9–10 March ("Operation Meetinghouse") with 279 B29's dropping around 1,700
tons of bombs. Fourteen B-29s were lost.  Approximately 16 square miles of the city were
destroyed and some 100,000 people are estimated to have died in the resulting firestorm,
more immediate deaths than either of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

One view:

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The government of Japan was prepared to surrender during the summer of 1945,
with the sole proviso that its sacred emperor be retained.
  President Harry S. Truman and those around him knew this through intercepted Japanese
diplomatic messages, the story goes, but refused to extend such an assurance because
they wanted the war to continue until atomic bombs became available.  
The real purpose of using the bombs was not to defeat an already-defeated Japan, but to
give the United States a club to use against the Soviet Union.

The Most Unpopular War in U.S. History

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A new CNN/ORC poll finds that just 17% of Americans support the war in Afghanistan
-- with 82% opposed -- making it the the most unpopular war in U.S. history.

"Opposition to the Iraq war never got higher than 69% in CNN polling while U.S. troops were
in that country, and while the Vietnam War was in progress, no more than 60% ever told
Gallup's interviewers that war was a mistake."

Quoted from Box A Rox

The Most Unpopular War in U.S. History

Kind of shows the ignorance of the American people...
We had a much more legitimate reason to be in Afghanistan than Iraq...

Quoted from 55tbird

Kind of shows the ignorance of the American people...
We had a much more legitimate reason to be in Afghanistan than Iraq...

"We had a much more legitimate reason to be in Afghanistan than Iraq"  I agree.


The Iraq war was totally unnecessary.
I think much of the animosity for the Afghanistan war today is a carry over from
the WMD, & Iraq war lies.

Quoted from Box A Rox

"We had a much more legitimate reason to be in Afghanistan than Iraq"  I agree.


The Iraq war was totally unnecessary.
I think much of the animosity for the Afghanistan war today is a carry over from
the WMD, & Iraq war lies.

what constitutes a 'necessary' war????

G-R-E-A-T  Q-U-E-S-T-I-O-N !!!!!!!

Quoted from senders

what constitutes a 'necessary' war????

Quoted from bumblethru

G-R-E-A-T  Q-U-E-S-T-I-O-N !!!!!!!
what constitutes a 'necessary' war????

Knowing some of the definitions used to define the adjective
may answer this G-R-E-A-T  Q-U-E-S-T-I-O-N !!!!!!!!!!!
nec·es·sary  adjective \ˈne-sə-ˌser-ē\
: so important that you must do it
: unable to be avoided
: of an inevitable nature
: logically unavoidable

Quoted from joebxr

Knowing some of the definitions used to define the adjective
may answer this G-R-E-A-T  Q-U-E-S-T-I-O-N !!!!!!!!!!!
nec·es·sary  adjective \ˈne-sə-ˌser-ē\
: so important that you must do it
: unable to be avoided
: of an inevitable nature
: logically unavoidable

by what authority/conscience/morals?????