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Henry
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The USA WILL NOT invade Syria!


No we will just bomb them with drones and cruise missiles, another peace keeping mission like Libya At this point Bush was more worthy of that nobel peace prize then Obama


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Anyone who paid any attention to this conflict would know this doesn't make sense.


None of it makes sense no matter which way you slice it.  What we know about what really goes on in the world is
what we read from main stream, bloggers, foreign press and other accounts, who are fed that info from many different sources,
some credible and many not.
Do we know the truth?  NO!  
Will we ever know the turth?  NO!  
Will any of this ever end?  NO!
Will there be more terroist attacks aimed at the Western world?  YES!
Will we and other nations continue to be involved in conflicts in Middle East?  YES!
Will there ever be a period of peace without conflict anywhere in the world?  NO!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Henry
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What we do know is that the overwhelming majority doesn't want any part of this civil war in Syria but our "representatives" don't seem to care. Obama is supposed to make a speech today about this and I'll bet it nothing but more lies to bomb another country.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Henry
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A new Reuters/Ipsos poll has finally found something that Americans like even less than Congress: the possibility of U.S. military intervention in Syria. Only 9 percent of respondents said that the Obama administration should intervene militarily in Syria; a RealClearPolitics poll average finds Congress has a 15 percent approval rating, making the country’s most hated political body almost twice as popular.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was taken Aug.19-23, the very same week that horrific reports emerged strongly suggesting that Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people, potentially killing hundreds or even thousands of civilians. If there were ever a time that Americans would support some sort of action, you’d think this would be it. But this is the lowest support for intervention since the poll began tracking opinion on the issue. The survey also found that 60 percent oppose intervention outright, with the rest, perhaps sagely, saying that they don’t know.

Strangely, 25 percent said that they support intervention if Assad uses chemical weapons. I say strangely because the United States announced way back in June that it believed Assad had done exactly this. A large share of people who answered that the United States should intervene if Assad uses chemical weapons are apparently unaware that this line has already been crossed. Presumably, some number of these people would drop their support if they realized the question was no longer hypothetical.


The United States certainly appears to be considering limited strikes on Syria in response to last week’s suspected chemical weapons attack. The calculus for and against is complicated enough in foreign policy terms. But the White House is also a political institution, and it will surely keep the domestic politics, which appear to oppose any intervention very strongly, well in mind.


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Why would Assad use chemical weapons when 1 he is already kicking the crap out of the rebels and 2 he knows what would happen if he did use them. We tried to blame them before with the same charge and it was found that it wasn't the government but the FSA who used this type of weapon. This happened the minute Assad started taking back rebel controlled areas, and when Assad did start winning we jumped in again and promised to arm and fund the rebels. Fast forward to today and Assad is making more progress fighting these terrorist so what better way to stop that then a false flag. Anyone who paid any attention to this conflict would know this doesn't make sense.


Exactly! And how many times are the american sheople going to fall for this bullcrap? This country has to have a boggie man SOMEWHERE to justify their wars and their reason for spying on their own citizens!! They did it in vietnam and they have continued ever since!!!

the truth of the matter is...........these countries want to break away from the american monetary dictatorship system! And they (central banking system) will fabircate lies, create false flags and kill thousands of innocent to prevent that from happening!!

We continue to be fed lies that are creating a false reality!!



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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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“None of what you are seeing is about fighting terrorism, or about helping the people of Syria. It’s about oil, energy and the global economic system. Conflict exists for the globalists to achieve their objective, and their objective is the implementation of a new economic system that will be a basket of currencies, or SDR (Special Drawing Rights). If you don’t know about SDRs, just equate it to the euro, but on a global scale.”

They will usher this in by striking at the United States much like the U.S. took down the old Soviet Union. They will target our economy through oil, cheap oil, from Saudi Arabia. Remember, Russia is the world’s largest exporter of oil, neck and neck with the Saudis. But, the Saudis’ oil wells have been damaged and their ‘lift costs’ are increasing.”

“So, what we are about to see and experience in a most painful way is the destruction of the U.S. economy, the intentional killing of the U.S. dollar, by having it replaced as the world’s reserve currency, and replaced with a basket of currencies (SDR) that is much easier to control.”

“This is all about the conversion of world’s economic trading mechanism from a U.S. dollar based system to a SDR. The Middle East and Syria is merely the catalyst for is implementation. The ‘flash-bang’ of the magic act. And once this catalytic action is started, we cannot go back. War in the Middle East and particularly Syria is the catalyst that will disrupt transactions and commerce all over the world. And few will see it coming, or know what hit them.”


http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/57454


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http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/sdr.htm

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The role of the SDR
The SDR was created by the IMF in 1969 to support the Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate system. A country participating in this system needed official reserves—government or central bank holdings of gold and widely accepted foreign currencies—that could be used to purchase the domestic currency in foreign exchange markets, as required to maintain its exchange rate. But the international supply of two key reserve assets—gold and the U.S. dollar—proved inadequate for supporting the expansion of world trade and financial development that was taking place. Therefore, the international community decided to create a new international reserve asset under the auspices of the IMF.

However, only a few years later, the Bretton Woods system collapsed and the major currencies shifted to a floating exchange rate regime. In addition, the growth in international capital markets facilitated borrowing by creditworthy governments. Both of these developments lessened the need for SDRs.

The SDR is neither a currency, nor a claim on the IMF. Rather, it is a potential claim on the freely usable currencies of IMF members. Holders of SDRs can obtain these currencies in exchange for their SDRs in two ways: first, through the arrangement of voluntary exchanges between members; and second, by the IMF designating members with strong external positions to purchase SDRs from members with weak external positions. In addition to its role as a supplementary reserve asset, the SDR serves as the unit of account of the IMF and some other international organizations.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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The bottom line.

Is Assad a threat to any American citizen?

Or are we going to invade, using the premise that we are defending others from him?

The same lie that we used again and again.
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How and when the U.S. and its allies might go after Assad's military are open questions.
Here are four predictions of what the world can expect:

1. The attack could come within days
2. The strike will include a volley of cruise missiles
3. Obama won't wait for the U.N.'s approval
4. The aim will be to send a message — not join the war

The Week
http://theweek.com/article/ind.....-syria-4-predictions


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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How and when the U.S. and its allies might go after Assad's military are open questions.
Here are four predictions of what the world can expect:

1. The attack could come within days
2. The strike will include a volley of cruise missiles
3. Obama won't wait for the U.N.'s approval
4. The aim will be to send a message — not join the war

The Week
http://theweek.com/article/ind.....-syria-4-predictions




So, a Pearl Harbor type attack.

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Here is what Obama wants to help





Now this next video is extremely disturbing but it should be seen by those who think we should be helping the FSA and the rebels, actually these are the people Obama and our government are helping already. Caution Graphic 18+, 3 Christian priests executed by FSA rebels.



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IT IS NONE OF OUR BUSINESS!!!!

Where were we when millions were being slaughtered and raped in Dufar????

And please will someone show me the EXACT phrase, and verse in the bible that says.........'we are our brother's keeper'...........THE EXACT PHRASE!!!!

I know all the other stuff....take care of widows blah blah blah......I'm referring to 'WE ARE OUR BROTHER'S KEEPER'!


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Henry seems to be one of those sickos who 'get off' on watching death.  
Do ya feel better now Henry?
Did that satisfy your need to see blood and violence?  

There is a certain element in society who gravitate to gratuitous violence.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Henry
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Henry seems to be one of those sickos who 'get off' on watching death.  
Do ya feel better now Henry?
Did that satisfy your need to see blood and violence?  

There is a certain element in society who gravitate to gratuitous violence.  


Nope I just want people to fully understand what Obama and Kerry want to support and help and in certain ways are helping already. The people will not see the whole story if all they hear is what our MSM sugar coats them, this box is the true face of the people Obama wants to help and I'm guessing you do to. Who do you think would use chemical weapons the Syrian army or these fckn terrorist scum who already were caught once using those weapons.

Yes these videos are brutal and nauseating but I believe they need to be seen by the people before our government does anything. There is no good side in this civil war, both Assad and the rebels are animals, our best bet is to let them wipe out as many of each other as they can, picking a side in this will do us no good, it can't.


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There is a certain element in society who gravitate to gratuitous violence.  


Then there are those that willingly participate in it.  Which is worse?


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