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Box A Rox
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How is posting a story of 20 men raping a girl is racist? If the men were white would you also call the thread racist.


According to The National Women's Study, 683,000 forcible rapes occur every year;
which equals 56,916 per month;
1,871 per day;
78 per hour;
and 1.3 per minute...
Rape isn't a rare event. Without race in this story... Graham would not have even bothered to read it.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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According to The National Women's Study, 683,000 forcible rapes occur every year;
which equals 56,916 per month;
1,871 per day;
78 per hour;
and 1.3 per minute...
Rape isn't a rare event. Without race in this story... Graham would not have even bothered to read it.


You don't think the fact that almost 20 men were involved had anything to do with it.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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You don't think the fact that almost 20 men were involved had anything to do with it.


My opinion?  If it were 30 white guys, Graham would have ignored it or even blamed the victim.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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There's no political value to gang rape.  If they were white, the left could have worked some angle tying them to some conservative political action group.  If one of them attended a tea party rally, they could have painted the whole movement as a bunch of gang rapists.  That's considered honest debate in American politics.


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My opinion?  If it were 30 white guys, Graham would have ignored it.


You wouldn't have.  You would have started multiple threads.


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There's no political value to gang rape.  If they were white, the left could have worked some angle tying them to some conservative political action group.  If one of them attended a tea party rally, they could have painted the whole movement as a bunch of gang rapists.  That's considered honest debate in American politics.


No matter what their color, this is about a crime, not race...
HUH
Sounds suspiciously like the Martin Murder Trial!



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No matter what their color, this is about a crime, not race...
HUH
Sounds suspiciously like the Martin Murder Trial!



In the Zimmerman thread, you said race should be considered when a crime is committed and the races of the victim and perpetrator are not the same.  What happened to your old line of thinking?  The girl was Hispanic and gang raped by African Americans.  Where is the NAACP screaming to the FBI to investigate hate crime?  

Remember the movie A Time to Kill?  John Grisham should write a book that reflect this tragedy.  Justifying the Hispanic father murdering the people responsible for the rape of his daughter.  Nahhhh.. That would be racist.


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Schenectady doesn't have a racism issue...Schenectady has a issue with their cast system and the status quo.....

WIC
feel good laws 'keeping kids(adults) in school'
DSS
low wage 'noble jobs'
habitat for humanity

etc etc.....

it's an urban area where folks cease to grow their own food and accepting a system that 'hands it over' no matter how bad
they get treated....it's a stockholm syndrome of the worst kind

you can't have do gooders without victims....and if you don't have enough victims then make some and get some votes that
put you into office to make more laws to make more victims to satisfy the do-gooders needs...MUNCHAUSEN SYNDROME BY PROXY

take the man from the land and he starves



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Munchausen syndrome by proxy is a form of child abuse in which a parent induces real or apparent symptoms of a disease in a child.

Causes
This syndrome almost always involves a mother abusing her child by seeking unneeded medical attention for the child. It is rare and poorly understood. The cause is unknown.

The mother may fake symptoms of illness in her child by adding blood to the child's urine or stool, withholding food, falsifying fevers, secretly giving the child drugs to make the child throw up or have diarrhea, or using other tricks, such as infecting intravenous (given through a vein) lines to make the child appear or become ill.

These children are often hospitalized with groups of symptoms that don't quite fit any known disease. Frequently, the children are made to suffer through unnecessary tests, surgeries, or other uncomfortable procedures.

The parent is usually very helpful in the hospital setting and is often appreciated by the nursing staff for the care she gives her child. She is often seen as devoted and self-sacrificing, which can make medical professionals unlikely to suspect the diagnosis of Munchausen syndrome by proxy.

Her frequent visits unfortunately also make the child accessible to her so that she can induce further symptoms. Changes in the child's condition are almost never witnessed by hospital staff and almost always occur only in the mother's presence.

Munchausen syndrome occurs because of psychological problems in the adult, and is generally an attention-seeking behavior. The syndrome can be life-threatening for the child involved.

Symptoms
The child's symptoms do not fit a classical picture of illness or do not fit together well.
The child's symptoms improve at the hospital but reappear at home.
The parent is overattentive or "too helpful."
The parent is often involved in a health-care field, such as nursing.
Exams and Tests
Blood samples used for lab work do not match the patient's blood type.
The presence of drugs or chemicals in blood, stool, or urine samples cannot be accounted for.
Treatment
Once the syndrome is recognized, the child needs to be protected and removed from direct care of the parent. The affected parent should not be accused directly, but offered help.

Because this is a form of child abuse, the syndrome must be reported to the authorities. Psychiatric counseling will be recommended for the parent involved, but since the disorder is rare, very little is known about effective treatment.

Outlook (Prognosis)
This is a difficult disorder to treat in parents. There is little information available about the best types of treatment or what the outcome will be. It usually requires years of psychiatric support.

Children may require medical care to treat injuries the parent inflicted, as well as psychiatric care to deal with depression, anxiety, and other conditions that can be provoked by child abuse. Some children may die from infections or other injuries inflicted by parents with Munchausen syndrome by proxy.

Possible Complications
The child can have complications from injuries, infections, medications, surgeries, or tests. Risk for psychological complications like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder, and others is increased in survivors of child abuse.

When to Contact a Medical Professional
This condition is diagnosed by the health care provider when the child is treated for various symptoms. If you find that you have urges to harm your child, seek psychiatric care immediately.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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isn't that what this is about???   dicussion to have everyone's opinion ???....I try to express and sometimes it may come out wrong..

but I am not racist....I consider myself fair and try to see justice....

I would love to be a prosecutor......because in justice the offender has more rights than the victim....and I know so for a fact...

so be done with it...I have had my say.....you can all keep it going if you need to....but to be fair...put up some white perps....

just sayin'
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in America you are innocent until proven guilty

you are not a victim first, however this seems to be changing.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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.....you can all keep it going if you need to....but to be fair...put up some white perps....

just sayin'


I think you are missing the point of the title of the thread.  There was a year of Zimmerman's face on TV portrayed as a white man and Trayvon as the black victim.  And it was portrayed as if this is a nationwide epidemic of white people going around and shooting black teenagers.  The president weighed in and identified with the black victim as if "that could have been him 35 years ago".  It was an absolute distortion of reality created by the media.  There was NO BALANCE of coverage showing the mug shots of black men that killed white people.  It was creating racial tension that otherwise wasn't there.

Now, when Graham shows 20 black gang rapists that rape a Hispanic girl, people are up in arms because they think it's racially bias.  Yet during the year if coverage if the Zimmerman trial and the absolute politicizing of it, not one peep of calling for racial balance.  All stories of black on white crime were buried in order to distort people's reality to serve a political purpose - stir racial tension.

And Americans continue to respond to these media distortions like Pavlov's Dog.


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I think you are missing the point of the title of the thread.  There was a year of Zimmerman's face on TV portrayed as a white man and Trayvon as the black victim.  And it was portrayed as if this is a nationwide epidemic of white people going around and shooting black teenagers.  The president weighed in and identified with the black victim as if "that could have been him 35 years ago".  It was an absolute distortion of reality created by the media.  There was NO BALANCE of coverage showing the mug shots of black men that killed white people.  It was creating racial tension that otherwise wasn't there.

Now, when Graham shows 20 black gang rapists that rape a Hispanic girl, people are up in arms because they think it's racially bias.  Yet during the year if coverage if the Zimmerman trial and the absolute politicizing of it, not one peep of calling for racial balance.  All stories of black on white crime were buried in order to distort people's reality to serve a political purpose - stir racial tension.

And Americans continue to respond to these media distortions like Pavlov's Dog.


BINGO!!!! ruling class 101----divide and conquer to hide the status quo agenda


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I am not missing the point...everytime I see pics they are of color....that's what I want to point out....find some white guys who have committed rape...

put their pics up.....and that's not being a racist....you are missing the point....

if you can;'t use the "N" word then why post pics like that.....my interpretation is just like  others I have shown....and some in the legal field....


so stop all this chat about who is and who 's not.....wrong doesn't make it right and vicesa versa....it's my opinion.....you have yours and I have mine...

this is a democracy is it not???...or are you hell bent on putting some in the "naybob" category.....perish the thought...
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I think you are missing the point of the title of the thread.  There was a year of Zimmerman's face on TV portrayed as a white man and Trayvon as the black victim.  And it was portrayed as if this is a nationwide epidemic of white people going around and shooting black teenagers.


Of course Cissy is posting his 'agenda' not the facts.

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The outrage over the Zimmerman slaying of Trayvon Martin was not the unique
brutality of the crime, but rather it was directed at the nonchalant initial attitude of the
police and county prosecutors towards the killing. The police did not make an arrest or
even subject George Zimmerman to toxicology tests which should be routine in a
homicide case. The prosecution did not press charges.


Picture it this way Cicero... Suppose the three jerks who shot Chris Lane were not arrested,
only questioned briefly and sent home with no bail, no bond, no charges, not even a warning.
Suppose the three Chris Lane murders had family who worked with the police and were
family friends with the DA...
Maybe then you might understand the difference between the Martin and the Lane murder...
No, never mind.  You probably wouldn't.  


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My opinion?  If it were 30 white guys, Graham would have ignored it or even blamed the victim.


If 30 white guys were involved Graham would have been there.
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