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Length of Stay in Nursing Homes at the End of Life
One out of every four of us will die while residing in a nursing home. For most of us, that stay in a nursing home will be brief, although this may depend upon social and demographic variables like our gender, net worth, and marital status. These are the conclusions of an important new study published in JAGS by Kelly and colleagues (many of whom are geripal contributors, including Alex Smith and Ken Covinsky).

The study authors used data from the Health and Retirement Study (HRS) to describe the lengths of stay of older adults who resided in nursing homes at the end of life. What they found was that out of the 8,433 study participants who died between 1992 and 2006, 27.3% of resided in a nursing home prior to their death. Most of these patients (70%) actually died in the nursing home without being transferred to another setting like a hospital.

The length of stay data were striking:

the median length of stay in a nursing home before death was 5 months
the average length of stay was longer at 14 months due to a small number of study participants who had very long lengths of stay
65% died within 1 year of nursing home admission
53% died within 6 months of nursing home admission



The authors also found that length of stay varied based on a number of demographic, social, and clinical factors. For instance:

men died sooner after admission than women (men had a median length of stay of around 3 months versus 8 for women)
married nursing home residents died sooner after admission than unmarried participants (an average of 4 months sooner)
nursing home residents in the highest quartile of net worth died six months sooner than those in the lowest quartile.


I had a chance to talk with the lead author, Anne Kelly, about the implications of these findings. Kelly told me "that even though this study doesn’t address why certain demographic and social factors lead to a shorter length of stay, it does look like people with greater social support at home have shorter lengths of stay when admitted to a nursing home."  Kelly also explains that the findings of this study reinforce the idea that advance care planning needs to occur upon admission to a nursing home. In her words: "it's best to begin those discussions early on and readdress them frequently during their stay given that so many people are going to be there for only a brief time."

I think these findings have broader implications for our community as well. For one thing, I think it should make us re-evaluate our priorities when thinking about where we put our clinical efforts. For instance, most palliative care consultations occur within hospitals, although most patients will die outside of the hospital setting. With the recent NEJM study on the effectiveness of outpatient palliative care (see here to learn more), maybe we should think of more effective ways in partnering with nursing home providers to manage the end-of-life needs of these patients.  Sounds like fresh territory for a geriatrics and palliative care collaboration (hmmm, I wonder what we should call such an endeavor?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

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Without too much detail just to let you know family insisted MIL taken to ER. THANK GOD

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great news......praying for all...
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home care is of course preferable! HOWEVER.....there are institutions out there that sell themselves and their services. Truth or not, right or wrong.....the fact of the matter is.....FOLKS BELIEVE THEM!!! And whether folks should or not isn't the point......the fact of the matter is ........folks did and expected that their loved one would receive the care they were promised. It is up to the family members(if they have any) to oversee their care. Nothing is perfect. However, this does appear to be a case of neglect.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Report: Most county nursing homes run in the red

we can't afford the 'right' care....nursing is still treated like a 'religious calling'.....

currently a McDonalds worker will make more $$ than a CNA...why?

"Oh, I could never do what you do. There's a seat for you in heaven."

"women are just made to do that sort of work"


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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A couple of you know what facility I'm speaking of and it goes from bad to worse. Talked to my Mom yesterday and made her promise
that if I ever was going to be sent to this place to leave me with a LARGE bottle of pills so I can do myself in.

I am outraged and upset.

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rp, try not to take it so hard. It is awful, but letting it get to you to too great a degree will only do you harm and not help those who are suffering. The problem at nursing homes is that there is a bunch of money flowing into those places, but not at the critical end, the person who actually provides the care. When politics are involved, it gets even worse.I hope this latest episode will lead to some changes, you never know who is listening. Good luck.
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FIL who is in the same facility fell a couple weeks ago, now get a call 3 am from BIL that he fell out of bed late last night and  is in the ER, possible
brain bleeding again and maybe broken hip  
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Hang in there, rp.
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Well some good news no broken hip.
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nursing homes aren't there to prevent broken hips...sure they can TRY to prevent falls, but that is a misnomer...people have a right
to move within their bodies any way they wish without being restrained/redirected etc....it's what happens when we age...our bodies
fall apart...it SUCKS to see a loved one fall and break something/fail to thrive etc...but it IS normal...a facility doesn't prevent any of
it...a good nurse allows a once active human being the ability to continue as a human being and not just 'oh that poor old person'...
so you tried to get up because you thought should/could--GOOD FOR YOU


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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