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FBI Documents:
MOA/Jamaat ul-Fuqra Alleged Islamic Terrorist Training Compounds
Discovered In Texas, and 11 others places in US.

~~~ Alleged Islamic Terrorist Training Compound Discovered In Rural Texas ~~~

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According to the documents, the FBI has been concerned about these facilities for about 12 years,
but cannot act against them because the U.S. State Department has not yet declared that their
umbrella group, MOA/Jamaat ul-Fuqra, as a Foreign Terrorist Organization.


Just like America's Right Wing Christian  Militias, or Right Wing White Supremacists, these Americans have a RIGHT
to "OPEN CARRY", form militias, and run around the woods, shooting and  blowing things up while practicing war.
(A Muslim Militia... A Skinhead Militia...A Christian Militia... Not a lot of difference between them)



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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Box playing into Islamophobia    So box what do you have against this group, have they done anything to warrant you tying them to ISIS as your picture shows. Do you have any proof they are a terrorist training ground? The reason they are not labeled a terrorist organization is because there is zero evidence of them having any sinister plans. And for those who do play into this fear box is trying to create rest well knowing half the members are FBI informants already


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Islamaphobia is fine if it's used as a means to regulate gun owners.  Don't expect consistency with box.  


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Box playing into Islamophobia    So box what do you have against this group, have they done anything to warrant you tying them to ISIS as your picture shows. Do you have any proof they are a terrorist training ground? The reason they are not labeled a terrorist organization is because there is zero evidence of them having any sinister plans. And for those who do play into this fear box is trying to create rest well knowing half the members are FBI informants already


I don't show favorites... These Muslim Militias are just as dangerous as the Right Wing Militias,
Christian Militias or the Skinhead Militias.  
I see little difference between these EXTREMISTS except the color of their flag.  


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So dangerous they couldn't find one thing they done illegal bahahahah Meanwhile the picture above shows ISIS, a group that is now using US made weapons thanks to boxes tax dollars and beloved government


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So dangerous they couldn't find one thing they done illegal bahahahah Meanwhile the picture above shows ISIS, a group that is now using US made weapons thanks to boxes tax dollars and beloved government


Yes, sadly it is MY Govt.  Not yours and not Cissy's and not many who post here.
I prefer to take part, even if it's a very small part, in my govt.  Like the founding fathers, I and like minded
Americans are WE, not the LameLibertarian I I I!


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So dangerous they couldn't find one thing they done illegal bahahahah

Yes that's true.  Kind of like Timothy McVeigh, who didn't do anything illegal, till his Right Winger
views convinced him to blow up the Murrah building killing 168 of his fellow citizens, including
19 children.  So like McVeigh, these Islamic militia and the Christian Militia, and the Skinhead
militia, and the TeaBagger Militia... did nothing wrong.





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Yes that's true.  Kind of like Timothy McVeigh, who didn't do anything illegal, till his Right Winger
views convinced him to blow up the Murrah building killing 168 of his fellow citizens, including
19 children.  So like McVeigh, these Islamic militia and the Christian Militia, and the Skinhead
militia, and the TeaBagger Militia... did nothing wrong.





He'd be a member of the military, working in Abu Garab prison, stacking naked men in piles and making them do homoerotic acts, like they do in the government militia.Lol


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He'd be a member of the military, working in Abu Garab prison, stacking naked men in piles and making them do homoerotic acts, like they do in the government militia.Lol

McVeigh was reprimanded by the military for purchasing a "White Power" T-shirt at a Ku Klux Klan protest
against black servicemen
Timothy McVeigh WAS in the US military... he left to fight in Cissy's Army of anti Govt Extremists.
His anti govt views (much like a few on this board) are incompatible with military values.  He preferred
to kill innocent civilians, with no regard for the preschoolers or pregnant women inside his building of
choice.  A preschool daycare in session, was part of the draw for McVeigh to blow up the Murrah building.




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He preferred to kill innocent civilians, with no regard for the preschoolers or pregnant women inside his building of
choice.  A preschool daycare in session, was part of the draw for McVeigh to blow up the Murrah building.


McVeigh is a monster...but...if he wore a costume with gold stars on his lapel, those preschoolers and pregnant women would be defined as "collateral damage" during what he thought was an operation against a federal building in response to the Waco massacre, where the federal government murdered American women and children.


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McVeigh is a monster...but...if he wore a costume with gold stars on his lapel, those preschoolers and pregnant women would be defined as "collateral damage" during what he thought was an operation against a federal building in response to the Waco massacre, where the federal government murdered American women and children.


So, according to Cissy, the "Federal Govt" set out to kill everyone in the building at WACO.
Is that what you are posting Cissy???  They initially, on purpose, set out to kill everyone there?


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So, according to Cissy, the "Federal Govt" set out to kill everyone in the building at WACO.
Is that what you are posting Cissy???  They initially, on purpose, set out to kill everyone there?


The Feds were armed(with tanks I might add) and set out to raid the ranch.  They initiated contact.  The Branch Davidians didn't attack the ATF.  The Feds killed 76 people.  Whether they intended or not, they were certainly armed to the teeth and willing.  Not one federal agent was arrested or jailed for either involuntary manslaughter or murder.  Just another "oops" or "collateral damage", because they were wearing the costumes.


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The Feds were armed(with tanks I might add) and on set out to raid the ranch.  They initiated contact.  The Branch Davidians didn't attack the ATF.  The Feds killed 76 people.  Whether they intended or not, they were certainly armed to the teeth and willing.  Not one federal agent was arrested or jailed for either involuntary manslaughter or murder.  Just another "oops" or "collateral damage", because they were wearing the costumes.

So to summarize Cissy's position...
Federal agents in the search and arrests at Waco, did not intend to kill everyone in the building.  
Timothy McVeigh, the right wing terrorist, DID INTEND TO KILL AS MANY AS POSSIBLE IN THE
MURRAH BUILDING, and that was his goal from the beginning of his attack.

Not exactly the same is it Cissy?




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So to summarize Cissy's position...
Federal agents in the search and arrests at Waco, did not intend to kill everyone in the building.  
Timothy McVeigh, the right wing terrorist, DID INTEND TO KILL AS MANY AS POSSIBLE IN THE
MURRAH BUILDING, and that was his goal from the beginning of his attack.

Not exactly the same is it Cissy?




Box, the Feds drove an armored tank through the wall of the Davidian Ranch filled with women, pregnant women, and children, and fired CS Gas inside the building.  CS Gas is a chemical weapon banned in warfare by most countries(Exception- Somalia). CS Gas is lethal to children.  They were serving a search warrant with tanks and chemical weapons.

BTW...My understanding of McVeighs reasoning for choosing the Murrah building was because it had the most federal agencies in it.  Not for mass casualties of innocent people.  McVeigh was twisted and military psychopath.  He was retaliating  to what he considered an attack against his fellow citizens in Waco

You are a good lap dog box.  Downplaying the murder of 76 innocent Americans, including 20 children at the hand of federal agents.  I guess its just another oops, like the invasion of Iraq and many other example of federal govs muerderous actions


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Yes, sadly it is MY Govt.  Not yours and not Cissy's and not many who post here.
I prefer to take part, even if it's a very small part


Why are you sad this is what you wanted, this is the government you chose by participating in their voting process. The military you served in armed this group using your tax dollars, the only way out is to use the military you served in, using more tax dollars to fight or arm another group to combat them. If you don't like it to bad, you can hope your vote matters in another 4 years hehehe or you can stop paying taxes.....oh wait the government you chose now throws you in jail for not taking part in that process


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