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Henry
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Actions have reactions.

Plain and simple.

Don't fukk with people and they won't kill you.

Remember when peaceful settlements were an option.

Before the threat of deadly force was allowed for all situations.



Some want us to believe cops are a higher form of civilian, even NY has a law which gives a automatic life without parole in the killing of a 1st responder, yet us peasants don't get the same justice when one of us is killed.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Crazed, cop hating, anti govt, GunHuggers???? Sounds like a few on this board!  


Crazed?

For believing that a government should treat Americans with dignity and respect, not as potential threats.

This is what you nimrods fought for?

You glorious bastardds fought to protect people's rights?

All citizens are treated as criminals first, until proof of innocence.

Even up to the point of taking a person's life, legally, if they don't comply

Even in states that have banned the death penalty.

You truly believe that people who don't share your views of right or wrong regarding killing innocent people and being a necessary and acceptable behavior, are crazed.

You don't seem to have a problem with good guns(government guns, the military, law enforcement,...) killing the innocent, but bad guns owned by self protecting Americans, are a threat that must be taken under government control.

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Good thing this store wasn't a gun free zone



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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This guy got shot a couple times, but was still trying to be a threat.

In New York State you can't shoot robbers too many times.

He might have a friend and you only get 7 shots.

Plus, remember NY state's requirement that if you can safely run away from the threat, you must flee, instead of defend.

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Sam Abugalboush's (the Dead Robber) history:

Sam Abugalboush v. The State of Texas--Appeal from 183rd District Court of Harris County
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NUMBER 13-03-385-CR
COURT OF APPEALS
THIRTEENTH DISTRICT OF TEXAS
CORPUS CHRISTI - EDINBURG
_______________________________________________________
SAM ABUGALBOUSH, Appellant,
v.
THE STATE OF TEXAS, Appellee.
_______________________________________________________
On appeal from the 183rd District Court
of Harris County, Texas.
_______________________________________________________

MEMORANDUM OPINION
Before Justices Hinojosa, Ya ez, and Garza
Opinion Per Curiam
Appellant, Sam Abugalboush, attempts to appeal a conviction for aggravated robbery.
The trial court has certified that this is a plea-bargain case, and the defendant has NO right of appeal. See Tex. R. App. P. 25.2(a)(2).

On January 12, 2004, this Court notified appellant s counsel of the trial court s certification and ordered counsel to: (1) review the record; (2) determine whether appellant has a right to appeal; and (3) forward to this Court, by letter, counsel s findings as to whether appellant has a right to appeal, or, alternatively, advise this Court as to the existence of any amended certification.

On February 13, 2004, counsel filed a letter brief with this Court. Counsel s response fails to establish either that the certification currently on file with this Court is incorrect or that appellant otherwise has a right to appeal.

The Texas Rules of Appellate Procedure provide that an appeal must be dismissed if the trial court s certification does not show that the defendant has the right of appeal. Tex. R. App. P. 25.2(d); see Tex. R. App. P. 37.1, 44.3, 44.4. Accordingly, this appeal is dismissed. Any pending motions are denied as moot.

PER CURIAM

Memorandum opinion deliveredand filed this the 1st day of April, 2004.

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Marriage date: February 14, 2008
SAM ABUGALBOUSH
married CYNTHIA VASQUEZ

Groom: SAM ABUGALBOUSH
Age: 22
Born: 1985 or 1986
Bride: CYNTHIA VASQUEZ
Age: 19
Born: 1988 or 1989

County where license purchased: HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS

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The Police News -
Grand Jury Indictments - Galveston County
The following persons were indicted by a Galveston County Grand Jury
for the offenses indicated in July 2013
ABUGALBOUSH, SAM UNAUTHORIZED USE OF VEHICLE

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CountyHarris, TX
SPN Number1943961
FirstSAM
LastABUGALBOUSH
DOB1986-04-14
JailPROC/122 01A
Booking Date 2013-11-23

Charge Information
SPN Number      Case #              Booking Date      Charge                      Court      Court Date      Bond Amt      
1943961      189529001010      2013-11-23      POSS MARIJ 0-2 OZ      006      2013-07-23      10000.00      
1943961      189528901010      2013-11-23      UNLAW CARRY WPN      006      2013-07-23      10000.00      
1943961      189444601010      2013-11-23      THEFT >=$500 <$1,500      006      2013-07-23      10000.00

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Published on Sep 16, 2014

An armed gunmen was fatally shot Friday evening in southeast Houston after the convenience store clerk’s son came to the rescue.

Usman Seth was at his father’s local grocery store when a masked robber carrying a tactical firearm came into the store demanding his sister, who was at the cashier counter, give him all their money.

Seth’s father handed him their store handgun and quickly shot the suspect, later identified as Sam Abugalboush, in the leg.

Surveillance cameras caught the entire shootout on tape. Police arrived within minutes, but Abugalboush died at the scene.

A grand jury will determine if charges should be considered against Seth for the shooting.

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Here’s what we know so far about Frein, the ambush and his capacity to cause further bloodshed:

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1. He Made Statements About Committing ‘Mass Acts of Murder’
Suspect identified in PSP shooting as Eric Matthew Frein
— Eric Deabill (@ericdeabill) September 16, 2014

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that cops think Frein has a grudge against the state police. State Police Commissioner Frank Noonan said at a media briefing:

This fella is extremely dangerous. We have no idea where he is in the community. He is described as a survivalist … he has made statements about killing law enforcement as well as committing mass acts of murder. He has strong feelings about law enforcement, seems to be very angry with things that go on in our society.
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2. He’s a ‘Survivalist’

Frein was described by a state police spokesman as a “survivalist.”
According to CBS Pittsburgh, Frein is a resident of Canadensis, Pennsylvania.
Until recently he had lived with his parents, police said.
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3. Frein Is Heavily Armed, Has Military Weapons Training & ‘Doesn’t Miss’
.308 AK-47 Rifle similar to the one allegedly used by Frein to kill a state cop. (Flickr/Stephen Z)
Police say Frein has at least two guns. The Pocono Record reports that one of the guns is a .308 rifle that may look like a AK-47. That’s the gun he allegedly used to kill Corporal Dickson.

According to a criminal complaint (read the full document in Fact 5), police interviewed his father, also named Eric Frein, a 28-year military veteran and former Army major. The father said he’d trained his son is shooting skills and that the son was a better shooter than he and “doesn’t miss.”

Police think Frein stalked the state police barracks in Blooming Grove, picking the perfect spot for an ambush. At a press conference before Frein was named as a suspect, Lt. Col. George Bivens called the shooter a “coward” and vowed he would be arrested.

At that briefing it was said by officials that they believed the shooter may have had military training in firearms.

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4. There’s a Massive Manhunt Under Way & a $75,000 Reward
PSP: Shell casings found at Eric Frein's home in Canadensis that match shooting

Frein has been charged with first-degree murder, first-degree murder of a law enforcement officer, assault of a law enforcement officer, reckless endangerment, discharge of a firearm into an occupied structure, criminal attempt of murder in the first degree, criminal attempt of murder of a law enforcement officer, and possession of an instrument with criminal intent.

CBS Pittsburgh reports some 200 officers are searching the dense forest in the area surrounding the barracks.

CrimewatchPA reports there is a $75,000 reward for information leading to his capture.

Frein is 6-foot-1, 165 pounds, with blue eyes and brown hair.

Anyone with information about his whereabouts is asked to call the State Police Tip Line at 866-326-7256 or Pennsylvania Crime Stoppers at 800-4PA-TIPS.

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5. Cops Found ‘Military Gear’ & ‘Information Concerning Foreign Embassies” at His Home
  
Frein’s car, a green Jeep Cherokee, was found at 8:30 a.m. Monday, September 15, about 2 miles from the police barracks where the shooting took place. It was partially submerged in a pond, with windows open.

According to the criminal complaint (above), the car is registered to Eric and Deborah Frein.

LehighValleyLive reports Frein lives in the 300 Block of Seneca Lane in Canadensis, about 20 miles from the ambush. According to the complaint, Frein’s exact address is 308 Seneca Lane.

Police searched the home, where, according to the complaint, they found his Pennsylvania driver’s license, his Social Security card, his game commission range permit, camouflage face paint, flash lights, a black hooded sweatshirt, two empty rifle cases, “military gear” and “various information concerning foreign embassies.”



Accused Cop Killer Eric Frein Stars in War Reenactor Documentary
BY ABC News Radio | September 23, 2014
Home › News › ABC News › National News
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(NEW YORK) — The filmmaker of a new documentary about a Vietnam War reenactment said he was shocked to learn that one of his actors was Eric Frein, the subject of a massive Pennsylvania manhunt, and said he had sensed that some reenactors were on the “edge of violence.”

The dragnet for Frein, wanted for allegedly shooting two state troopers at the Blooming Grove barracks on Sept. 12, has plagued eastern Pennsylvania for the past 12 days. Schools in the Pocono Mountain School District reopened on Tuesday, but students were kept indoors and some bus routes were canceled. Frein is believed to be hiding out in the woods near his home in Canadensis, Pa.

“I think we always had a fear that one of the people we were following — because they had so much weaponry — could do something very dangerous,” filmmaker Patrick Bresnan of Austin, Texas, told ABC News Tuesday.

Bresnan, 38, said he and his wife, also a filmmaker, have been busy all summer getting their documentary Vietnam Appreciation Day ready for film festival submissions. The documentary follows a group of war reenactors in rural Pennsylvania, including Frein, preparing for a public show.

Frein and his friends were “very serious about the job,” said Bresnan, who grew up in Pennsylvania and spent time there while filming.

“They were at another level,” he said. “Their collections were almost fetishistic, obsessing over details on uniforms and weaponries.”

But he sensed how the hobby could lead to violence.

“Many people use reenacting as a way to justify owning weapons,” Bresnan said, adding that many of the reenactors he met were people who failed to get into the military.

“A lot of these guys try to act in History Channel episodes as extras, and they get paid $150 so they justify hoarding and collecting weaponry through their reenacting. That’s like the crown jewel for a lot of these guys — getting to portray a Nazi or a soldier on the History Channel.”

Frein is not a main character in Vietnam Appreciation Day, but the film “is a window into Eric’s world,” said Bresnan, who described the suspected murderer as “goofy but dark.”

Filming wrapped in 2011, and Bresnan hopes the film will appear on the next festival circuit. The application deadline for the Sundance Film Festival is next week, he added.

Frein is accused of killing Cpl. Bryon Dickson and critically wounding another trooper when police say he opened fire at the barracks, and then fled into the woods. He’s a survivalist with experience living off the land and a skilled shooter, police said.

His father, a retired Army major, said two weapons were missing from his home: a .308 with a scope and an AK-47 assault rifle. Police scouring the woods have found an AK-47 and ammunition that they believe Frein either abandoned or had stashed.

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"You women don't understand - guns are for men what jewelry is for women."

-- Rep. Steve King (R-IA)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Correct, you are.

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Has anybody ever noticed that 30,000 gun deaths in the United States is a Crisis for Democrats and MSNBC, but hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded Iraqis in an illegal war, and it's business as usual?


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Has anybody ever noticed that 30,000 gun deaths in the United States is a Crisis for Democrats and MSNBC, but hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded Iraqis in an illegal war, and it's business as usual?


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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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