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One year after it's adoption, poll shows New Yorkers
support SAFE Act two-to-one


http://www.legislativegazette......FE-Act-twotoone.html


Box, the poll was of registered voters.  4 million New Yorkers that are over 18 years of age are not registered voters.  


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Box, the poll was of registered voters.  4 million New Yorkers that are over 18 years of age are not registered voters.  


Yes Cicero.... AND??????????????



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Yes Cicero.... AND??????????????



Your post claimed that New Yorkers supported the safe act.  When the poll clearly said  63% of registered voters.  I was just clarifying your misleading posts.  You know, because 4 million unregistered voters opinions matter too.

BTW...The poll you cite is 6 months old.


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Your post claimed that New Yorkers supported the safe act.  When the poll clearly said  63% of registered voters.  I was just clarifying your misleading posts.  You know, because 4 million unregistered voters opinions matter too.

BTW...The poll you cite is 6 months old.


Yes.  It is 6 months old. And????  Do you have any data supporting a change in the poll?

Some surveys poll registered voters, some random state residents, some just who ever answers the phone.
If the poll was conducted to find VOTER SUPPORT then it has fulfilled it's purpose.


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i see repeal safe act signs posted all over the city...yet not one supporting it....not very scientific but could just be as accurate as sienna polls
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Some surveys poll registered voters, some random state residents, some just who ever answers the phone.
If the poll was conducted to find VOTER SUPPORT then it has fulfilled it's purpose.


I agree it fulfilled its purpose.  To measure support from registered voters.  You claimed that "New Yorkers" supported the safe act 2 to1.  When in reality, it was a survey of registered votes and not all New Yorkers.  Probably just an oversight on your part.


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i see repeal safe act signs posted all over the city...yet not one supporting it....not very scientific but could just be as accurate as sienna polls


Siena, like any reliable polling group, uses formulas to get as close as possible to the actual facts.  
There is always a 'margin of error' of often 3% or 5%, etc.  
Polls are a snapshot of the views of those polled at the time it was taken.  

Signs are being "funded" by the Right  for several reasons, one of which is to repeal the SAFE ACT...
They are 'funding' those signs to encourage support for their political candidates in the Nov elections.
The Right can rally support against Gov Cuomo by posting Anti SAFE Act signs.  Their aim isn't
so much "anti SAFE ACT" as it is Anti Gov Cuomo.


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Signs are being "funded" by the Right  for several reasons, one of which is to repeal the SAFE ACT...
They are 'funding' those signs to encourage support for their political candidates in the Nov elections.
The Right can rally support against Gov Cuomo by posting Anti SAFE Act signs.  Their aim isn't
so much "anti SAFE ACT" as it is Anti Gov Cuomo.


I tend to agree with this.  It is like the well funded left wing anti-war movement in 07 and 08.  It wasn't really an opposition to war, but opposition of Republicans in order to create support for their faux democrat anti war candidates.  

Obama just announced he is going to conduct airstrikes into yet ANOTHER sovereign country(Syria), and the Cindy Sheehan anti-war crowd is nowhere to be found(or at least the media isn't covering them).  The left wing anti war crowd isn't so much anti war, but rather anti republican war and pro democrat candidate.  Death and destruction at the hands of Democrats is not war at all.  Especially Nobel Peace Prize war.


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Every single pro-safe act rally I seen was a complete failure where the groups had to bus in students, even then the numbers were still very small compared to the anti-safe act crowds. Heard the Saratoga gun show last week was selling pre-safe act rifles and nobody said anything or just turned a blind eye


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Every single pro-safe act rally I seen was a complete failure where the groups had to bus in students, even then the numbers were still very small compared to the anti-safe act crowds. Heard the Saratoga gun show last week was selling pre-safe act rifles and nobody said anything or just turned a blind eye


From what I've heard, everybody that has a pre safe act rifle(AR15), they have registered with the proper authorities to make sure they are in compliance.


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Using nature as a guide.  He lays out a very good argument for not being a vegan or vegetarian. he explains  that the smart and fast animals ( humans ? )

eat the slow and dumb ones ( beef ).


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Every single pro-safe act rally I seen was a complete failure where the groups had to bus in students, even then the numbers were still very small compared to the anti-safe act crowds. Heard the Saratoga gun show last week was selling pre-safe act rifles and nobody said anything or just turned a blind eye


So GunHuggers were selling illegal guns.  No surprise there.


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So GunHuggers were selling illegal guns.  No surprise there.


It's their own Fast and Furious.  LOL

I guess what's good for the goose...


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It's their own Fast and Furious.  LOL

I guess what's good for the goose...


have heard the saratoga show called many things BUT...           

Fast and Furious? you dont need a gun...your killing me with laughter here!!!!
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500 voters polled, responded in favor of the SAFE act.

That is about 6 million fewer than gun owners.

If half the gun owners get out and vote this year, Cuomo will be sent into retirement in November.



Cuomo is toast.
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