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Lets try this again for the learning disabled:


A similar law where anyone seeing a mental health professional could be flagged so that in order
to GET OR KEEPa gun would be subject to scrutiny to determine if they are a danger
to society or themselves.

  


The Secret Service, the FBI, the police and the military all require a mental health evaluation.

They should all be put in the database.

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Number Of Gun Deaths Have Surpassed All Wars America Has Fought In


■ More Americans have died from guns in the United States since 1968 than on battlefields
of all the wars in American history.

NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08.....id=fb-share&_r=3


Coincidentally, more veterans and military have killed themselves with guns, in much greater numbers, than those killed in all the military action since 1990.

Plus you are using statistics that include justifiable deaths, suicides and killed by police in your outrageously skewed interpretation of facts.
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Number Of Gun Deaths Have Surpassed All Wars America Has Fought In


■ More Americans have died from guns in the United States since 1968 than on battlefields
of all the wars in American history.


Really genius.

More skewed BS from the spin meister.

During the American Revolution the US suffered 70,000 deaths and 50,000 wounded with a total world population of 600 million.

Plus as always, more civilians were killed than actual combatants.

During the Civil War the US suffered 200,000 combat deaths and over 400,000 civilian deaths, with a total world population of 1 billion.

In Vietnam 60,000 military deaths and a half million civilians.

In Iraq, well over 100,000 civilians were killed and a couple thousand military troops died.

You are right, there are gun nuts that shouldn't own guns and they are the US government.

The US government kills more than 100% more innocent civilians than actual war justifiable deaths.

Now what percentage of legal gun owners have killed innocent people?

Homicidal maniacs pointing the finger at the most statistically safe segment of the world's gun owners.

The US government has killed more innocent people just in Vietnam, than all of the US legally owned gun deaths since the revolution.

Your stats are so far skewed, and you think people are retarded and will believe whatever hogwash you type.

Legal gun owners have a 10,000 times better record than all of the US government sanctioned guns of the military and police.

The real gun nuts are your homicidal brothers in arms Boxy.
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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fear ALWAYS wins with homo sapiens


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Yet another 'responsible' gun owner!

Delaware State Police investigated a shooting that occurred in a family residence and
left a 2-year-old injured.

Police said troopers were dispatched to a house on Muddy Neck Road in Ocean View at
about 1 a.m. Sunday for a report that a child had been shot.

Police said investigators determined that 38-year-old Joseph Jenkins had shot his
daughter in the leg while showing his wife a gun he'd just received.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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really.....you think 'safe act' for gun control will help? make war more reasonable?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Yet another 'responsible' gun owner!

Delaware State Police investigated a shooting that occurred in a family residence and
left a 2-year-old injured.

Police said troopers were dispatched to a house on Muddy Neck Road in Ocean View at
about 1 a.m. Sunday for a report that a child had been shot.

Police said investigators determined that 38-year-old Joseph Jenkins had shot his
daughter in the leg while showing his wife a gun he'd just received.


Not to be outdone by civilian gun owners, the most dangerous gun owners on Earth(government guns) strikes again.


Innocent bystander, 61, dies after being shot by NYPD in undercover gun bust
Posted 7:23 PM, August 28, 2015, by Andrea Cavallier and PIX11 Report, Updated at 03:36pm, August 30, 2015

MOUNT VERNON, N.Y. — Three suspects were arraigned overnight in the undercover gun bust that resulted in the shooting death of an innocent bystander.

The suspects plead not guilty.

Police Commissioner Bill Bratton responded to the death of a 61-year-old bystander who was accidentally shot dead by police during an NYPD investigation into illegal gun sales in Mount Vernon.

    "I wish to express my profound sorrow and sympathy to the family of Felix Kumi, an uninvolved bystander who was struck and killed by police gunfire during an undercover gun-buy operation last night. Mr. Kumi was blameless, and this tragedy has tested and tried his family. I pray that they may find comfort in their hope of resurrection and awakening, and I tender the Department’s support and service in their grief," Bratton said in a Saturday afternoon statement.

Authorities on Friday said two people total were shot during the undercover police investigation, including Kumi and a 37-year-old suspect.

Mount Vernon Police Commissioner Terrence Raynor says it happened around 4 p.m. Friday.
Fake gun found at scene where two people were shot during undercover NYPD operation (NYPD)

Fake gun found at scene where two people were shot during undercover NYPD operation (NYPD)

The undercover officer was contacted by suspect Jeffrey Aristy, 28, who told him he has guns for sale. They met in the Bronx where the Aristy got into the officer's vehicle and directed him to drive to Mount Vernon.

The officer parked his vehicle in the vicinity of Beekman Avenue and Tecumseh Avenue when a second suspect got into the backseat then pointed what police say was a BB gun at the officer's head while demanding money.

The officer complied and handed the suspect his money who then attempted to flee. After signaling to his backup team, the officer got out of his vehicle and as he attempted to stop the suspect, the second suspect pointed his gun towards the officer.

Raynor says "things went awry" and several gunshots were fired in a residential neighborhood near Beekman Avenue and Pease Street.

The officer shot, striking the second suspect three times in the torso. The 61-year-old male bystander was standing behind the suspect and was also struck in the torso.

The bystander was taken to  Jacobi Medical Center in the Bronx, where he died Saturday.

Raynor says the 37-year-old suspect was also taken to the hospital. Aristy initially fled but has since been taken into custody.

Aristy was has been charged with four counts of criminal sale of a controlled substance and two counts of criminal sale of firearms.

Aristy was arraigned, along with his wife, Ivett Cruz, 29, and 24-year-old Samuel Ruiz.

Officials say no officers were injured.

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Body camera video undercuts police account of skid row shooting, suit says
Charly Keunan and mother

Charly Leundeu Keunang, 43, a Cameroonian national, hugs his mother Heleine Tchayou, in 2014. Keunang was shot and killed by LAPD in the skid row area of Los Angeles on March 1, 2015.

Video from police body cameras disputes the Los Angeles Police Department's account of the fatal police shooting this year of an unarmed homeless man on downtown's skid row, according to a civil lawsuit filed Wednesday in L.A. Superior Court.

Citing a story in GQ magazine by writer Jeff Sharlet, who said he saw the body-cam footage, the suit alleges that the video does not back up Police Chief Charlie Beck's contention that Charly Leundeu Keunang grabbed an officer's holstered gun during the March 1 confrontation. Eyewitnesses and a widely viewed video taken by a bystander also contradict the police account, the suit says.
LAPD shooting on skid row
LAPD shooting on skid row

“At no time did Mr. Keunang possess any type of weapon, much less fire or remove any firearm from the officers,” said the suit, which was filed by Keunang's family.

Police said Keunang, a 43-year-old immigrant from Cameroon, was shot and killed during a struggle on a skid row sidewalk as several officers tried to take him into custody on suspicion of robbery. The LAPD has declined to release two officers' body-cam footage while the shooting remains under investigation.

LAPD Commander Andy Smith says the department does not comment on pending litigation.

Keunang's death revived long-simmering complaints from skid row residents and homeless advocates that police needlessly escalate encounters with the mentally ill and drug-addicted people who dominate the street population in the 50-block downtown district. Keunang had been confined to a prison mental hospital during a 14-year term he served for bank robbery, and an autopsy report said there was methamphetamine in his system.

The suit said police were told Keunang was possibly mentally ill and “acting out” when they were called to his sidewalk tent by another homeless man.

Keunang “calmly engaged in discussion with officers” before crawling into his tent, the suit said. Officers fired Tasers into the tent, then pulled Keunang out, spinning and flailing, before they knocked him to the ground and began punching him.
Skid row police shooting lawsuit

Heleine Tchayou, mother of homeless man Charly Leundeu Keunang shot and killed by LAPD on skid row, weeps at a press conference held to announced $20 million claim filing against city and LAPD for police.
(Irfan Khan / Los Angeles Times)

“At that juncture, the officers exploded into acts of violence, almost certain to cause anyone, much less a person suspected of suffering from mental illness, to panic,” according to the lawsuit.

The suit said police could have handled the situation using less-than-lethal tactics, including talking to Keunang. Keunang repeated, “Let me express myself,” several times during the confrontation, according to the GQ article. One of the officers replied, “We're going to do things my way,” the article said.

“He's exactly the person they should have been prepared for on skid row,” said attorney Dan Stormer, who is representing the Keunang family. “They went from force to lethal force in seconds.”
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    @angelabirch Generally... Except when one is high on X, marijuana, meth and severely crazy.
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A bystander's video of the shooting, which took place in view of scores of people, has been watched millions of times online and broadcast on television.

An enhanced version of the video reviewed by The Times shows Keunang reaching toward Officer Joshua Volasgis' waistband as Volasgis knelt on the homeless man's chest and punched him. It did not show contact with the gun, which was still in the officer's holster when the shooting ended.

A source told the Los Angeles Times the body cameras captured Volasgis shouting, “He's got my gun!” multiple times before other police opened fire.
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LAPD Sgt. Chand Syed and Officers Francisco Martinez and Daniel Torres fired six shots at Keunang, four of them fatal, according to police and an autopsy by the Los Angeles County coroner. Two were “contact gunshot wounds,” fired directly against or very close to Keunang's body.

The family's suit seeks damages from the city of Los Angeles, the LAPD, Chief Beck and the four officers, on allegations of wrongful death, negligent supervision and training of officers, and civil rights violations. The damage amount is not specified, but an earlier claim against the city sought $20 million.

Line Foming, Keunang's sister, said she and her parents were suing so his “memory can be honored.

“We want to make sure his life was not in vain, that nothing like that can happen again,” she said.
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Yet one more... yes again...
One More Responsible GunHugger Shoots his Daughter.


Didn't I just post a similar story from Virginia or a dozen other places?
Responsible GunHuggers children seem to be on the endangered species list.
One gets shot every other day!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from Box A Rox
Yet one more... yes again...
One More Responsible GunHugger Shoots his Daughter.


Didn't I just post a similar story from Virginia or a dozen other places?
Responsible GunHuggers children seem to be on the endangered species list.
One gets shot every other day!


abortion/shooting/the flu......what difference does it make? come on war hero......where's the human value? legal or illegal?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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Young boy (11) left home alone fatally shoots teen intruder

Published 09/04/2015 | 09:10

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Police attending the scene of a shooting in St. Louis Credit: AP 1 Police attending the scene of a shooting in St. Louis Credit: AP

An 11-year old boy left home alone shot and killed a teenage intruder.


Police in Missouri, United States, said the body of a 16-year old was found outside a window of a home when they arrived at a house in a suburb of St Louis after hearing of reports of a shooting.

According to the police the teenage intruder was shot in the head as he tried to enter the house at 2:30 pm.

It is understood the 11-year-old staved off several attempts by the teen and another man to break into house before finally shooting and killing the 16-year-old intruder.

The boy’s four-year-old sister was in the house at the time.

The second intruder, who has not been identified, has since been arrested.

KMOV, a local television station, reported that the boy’s mother, who was not present at the time of the shooting, had bought the gun for protection.

One woman told the CNN affiliate the two boys were on the front porch of the home when the 11-year-old took out a gun and fired."They were just arguing loud, you know, back and forth," she said.

The 11-year old boy is in custody in order for the police to to question him.
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sad BUT.......TRUE!!!



When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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sad BUT.......TRUE!!!





Homicidal drug warriors filled with corruption and death squads.



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