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YUP!  Conservatives lied us into that war.  The WMD Slam Dunk was a totally fabricated GOP excuse to
grab Iraqi oil.
And how did that GOP sponsored Oil War work out for ya?

It took President Barack Hussein Obama and the Democrats to clean up G W B's dirty diapers
and end that war.  


Hillary and Kerry voted for it.  They are conservatives???


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Then we agree.  Raise the minimum wage  and there is no need for Walmart Employees to be on public assistance.


No, because raising minimum wage will raise the cost of goods and services and the wages of the union government worker that administers the programs.  Requiring more taxation needed to run the programs.  Unless you are suggesting wage controls?  


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Hillary and Kerry voted for it.  They are conservatives???

Oh not again.  
You can tell a Conservative, but ya can't tell em much!  

Do I really need to go and find the GWB "White Paper Report" that was handed to the House and
Senate for the Iraq War vote???
Do you yet again need to see proof that the FACTS in that report were EDITED to scam support
for the war in the US Congress?
Do I once again (as I have countless times) need to bring out the "Downing Street Memo"
showing that GWB's documents to go to war  were false?  

Congress voted on the FACTS as they were presented to them.  I may have voted for the war
myself given that "white paper report".  In fact, I initially believed the Bush Administration's Lies.
I (foolishly) assumed that even the president of the United States couldn't tell a lie that big.

I was wrong... so was Hillary.  GWB DID tell a lie that big, and the result is hundreds of thousands of
dead in that war.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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No, because raising minimum wage will raise the cost of goods and services and the wages of the union government worker that administers the programs.  Requiring more taxation needed to run the programs.  Unless you are suggesting wage controls?  


Cissy is mouthing the Conservative agenda like a good lil' lap dog.  


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Yea... that's what America needs... Walmart employees working for $20 a day!  




If someone volunteers to do the job then what is your problem, would you rather have a elderly person sitting home doing nothing? By the way what should be the minimum wage increase, maybe we should raise it to $100 an hour then that would solve everyone's problem right? Going by you you don't think there is any negatives to a jump in wages so why not.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Oh not again.  
You can tell a Conservative, but ya can't tell em much!  

Do I really need to go and find the GWB "White Paper Report" that was handed to the House and
Senate for the Iraq War vote???
Do you yet again need to see proof that the FACTS in that report were EDITED to scam support
for the war in the US Congress?
Do I once again (as I have countless times) need to bring out the "Downing Street Memo"
showing that GWB's documents to go to war  were false?  

Congress voted on the FACTS as they were presented to them.  I may have voted for the war
myself given that "white paper report".  In fact, I initially believed the Bush Administration's Lies.
I (foolishly) assumed that even the president of the United States couldn't tell a lie that big.

I was wrong... so was Hillary.  GWB DID tell a lie that big, and the result is hundreds of thousands of
dead in that war.


It's your democratically elected government box.  You believe in the separation of powers, but then you exonerate "your guys" of all responsibility.  Where is Obama and Holder?  Where are the criminal charges for all the wrongfully murdered?  Nothing?  Where is the "justice" for those that died?  Nothing?  

Keep on pulling the lever box.  


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If someone volunteers to do the job then what is your problem, would you rather have a elderly person
sitting home doing nothing?


I would rather an elderly person make an actual wage if he is working.  Are you really suggesting that
America's elderly be put to work volunteering at WalMart???


LMAO!!!  Henry, you're a piece of work!!!
For most of my life I've seen Conservatives blinded by their agenda, and worship of Big Business,
but never to this extent.

  
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   HENRY'S COMMUNITY SERVICES... DONATE YOUR LIFE TO WALMART!


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I would rather an elderly person make an actual wage if he is working.  Are you really suggesting that
America's elderly be put to work volunteering at WalMart???




All work is voluntary in America, are you suggesting the elderly don't have the right to do what they want with their life? Of course I expect them to get paid but it is up to them if it is worth the job or not.


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It's your democratically elected government box.  You believe in the separation of powers, but
then you exonerate "your guys" of all responsibility.  Where is Obama and Holder?  Where are the
criminal charges for all the wrongfully murdered?  Nothing?  Where is the "justice" for those that died?
  Nothing?  


Criminal Charges against GWB... yea it should happen.  What would be the result?  
Today, there are Brain Dead Conservatives who want to impeach Obama for his actions
yet they see no problem with GWB, the war criminal.



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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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All work is voluntary in America, are you suggesting the elderly don't have the right to do what they want with their life? Of course I expect them to get paid but it is up to them if it is worth the job or not.


As I posted earlier... Henry is campaigning for an even lower wage for the elderly...
while the rest of America supports a HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE FOR ALL AMERICANS!

Talk about out of touch with America!  


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So you ignored my question box what should be the minimum wage increase? Also do you believe there is no negative effects from raising it?


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So you ignored my question box what should be the minimum wage increase? Also do you believe there is no negative effects from raising it?


Henry seems to only see one side of every issue.  
The minimum wage should be just that... A MINIMUM.  I've heard the Conservatives sob story for most
of my life.  Unions are ruining this country with their higher wages... while in fact, it is Unions who
bring up the standard of living for All Americans (which Henry opposes)

GE paid high union wages in Schdy... and there were many non union shops who contracted to GE
who paid much less, but far above YOUR MINIMUM WAGE.  A POSITIVE EFFECT!

Higher wages will mean more tax dollars going into the system instead of those same people
draining the system.  

Higher minimum wages mean more discretionary spending... and those higher wages are
Tax Deductible for the employers.

The only negative effect is the drop in funding in Conservative Politicians, and lobbyists pockets.


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So you ignored my question box what should be the minimum wage increase? Also do you believe there is no negative effects from raising it?


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Fortune senior editor Stephen Gandel published an analysis Tuesday that showed Wal-Mart
could afford to pay its workers far more than $25,000 and a turkey dinner for pulling a holiday shift.

Gandel said that his analysis showed the company
could give its employees a 50 percent raise, with an average
take-home pay of $33,315 a year, without disappointing its
investors or forcing its top executives to take pay cuts.


Yet Henry is worrying about a "negative effect" on WalMart.  


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Worker wages: Wendy's vs. Wal-Mart vs. Costco

CNN Money
http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/06/news/economy/costco-fast-food-strikes/


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So you didn't answer anything you just found someone else to give their opinion, why do I bother


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