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Box A Rox
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I do hate all taxes but the big difference is I don't want the majority of services I pay for, you on the other hand want the best of both worlds, you want all this crap and you don't want to pay for it. If you cared so much and wanted more revenue in the form of taxation you would have opted out of your veteran tax exempt, you are a hypocrite plain and simple. As I said in the other topic you have no right to talk about how taxes are spent when you pay jack sh*t in taxes in the 1st place.

So if I accept my tax cut, it's way different that you accepting YOUR tax cut.  

I have no kids in school, yet I pay my school tax (and I don't weep when it happens like Henry)
I have never been on welfare, food stamps etc, yet I gladly pay for those services that I will
likely never use.  
I pay my share of taxes as the tax code sees fit.  I don't hide my income or attempt to escape
paying my taxes. As stated above,  I pay my fair share.

With a very small taxable income, my tax rate is probably higher than that of many millionaires.  They
actively hide their income offshore to evade taxes and they pay hundreds of thousands each year in
lawyer fees who work exclusively hiding their assets from taxation.

I gladly pay my fair share of taxes... If others did the same, the tax rates for all of us could be
reduced.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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So if I accept my tax cut, it's way different that you accepting YOUR tax cut.  



I get no tax cut on what taxes I pay, you do even though you are the one bitching about how others want less taxes. How can anyone believe you or take you serious when you don't pay your fair share. Put your money where your mouth is and then you can talk, until then you are just a hypocrite and everyone here can see it.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I get no tax cut on what taxes I pay,

Really?  If you own your home, you can deduct your home taxes on your income tax...
THAT'S A TAX CUT THAT NOT ALL CITIZENS CAN USE.
If you own your home, you get a STAR EXEMPTION, (often reducing your taxes by $$$Thousands).
Do you refuse your STAR exemption???
Do you own an IRA, if so you are paying less taxes than other citizens with the same income...
DO you refuse your IRA deduction on your income tax???






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Really?  If you own your home, you can deduct your home taxes on your income tax...
THAT'S A TAX CUT THAT NOT ALL CITIZENS CAN USE.
If you own your home, you get a STAR EXEMPTION, (often reducing your taxes by $$$Thousands).
Do you refuse your STAR exemption???
Do you own an IRA, if so you are paying less taxes than other citizens with the same income...
DO you refuse your IRA deduction on your income tax???






Like I said I don't get any of that, IRA are you kidding me


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Like I said I don't get any of that, IRA are you kidding me


OK if you don't own a home, but I assume that you do have medical bills.  Unless you have very good
health insurance, you pay a yearly deductible and/or you pay 'co pays'.
Those bills are deductible from your income tax.  You would pay less income tax because of those
medical bills... a deduction for you but not for others making the same income.



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The Last Days of the GOP

We could be witnessing the death throes of the Republican Party

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The battle over the shutdown has highlighted the cracks and fissures within the party.
The party’s leadership has begun to lose control of its members in Congress. The party’s base
has become increasingly shrill and is almost as dissatisfied with the Republican leadership in
Washington as it is with President Obama. New conservative groups have echoed, and taken
advantage of, this sentiment by targeting Republicans identified with the leadership for defeat.
And a growing group of Republican politicians, who owe their election to these groups, has
carried the battle into the halls of Congress. That is spelling doom for the Republican coalition
that has kept the party afloat for the last two decades.


The New Republic
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115134/gop-death-watch-final-days-republican-party


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Almost as much fun as watching Obamacare collapse.
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Almost as much fun as watching Obamacare collapse.


Really?  I hadn't heard that it is collapsing.  
The part of ObamaCare that lets kids be insured under their parents insurance plan is very popular,
even among Republicans.
The Obamacare provision that bans pre existing conditions has saved lives and provided treatment
for many who would not have had it.

The newest part of ObamaCare to come online started Oct 1.  It has a few bugs in the enrollment
but that is to be expected with a totally new plan.  Americans have until Jan 1 to enroll.  


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Almost as much fun as watching Obamacare collapse.


I enjoy watching the whole shithouse collapse.


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I enjoy watching the whole shithouse collapse.


Anarchists have no idea how to improve govt... they just enjoy it's collapse, then complain when
their govt fails them.  

Cissy would be on the top of the list of 'people needing assistance' if the govt actually did collapse.
No job, no health care, no food, no water, no fire or police protection, no taxes... a Cicero heaven!!!



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Only 51,000 people signed up in the first week and if the young healthy people don't sign up to fund the law it starts to die a slow death from lack of funding.
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if you have 2 masters, one beating the dogs and one ringing the bell that indicates a pile of crumbs to eat, and they take turns
at both of these tasks which one wins out?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Only 51,000 people signed up in the first week and if the young healthy people don't sign up to fund the law it starts to die a slow death from lack of funding.


YUP! Same answer that I gave last time to this post... The Rabid Right should be celebrating!  And since
you're so sure that ObamaCare is a failure, be sure to contact your republican representative and tell
him that the GOP shutdown has won.  Now time to get the govt running again.


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The tea party has lost the shutdown battle

New York Republican Rep. Peter King told Bloomberg News Friday that the tea
party caucus has lost the shutdown battle
and its fight against President
Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.  King predicted that the House
will raise the debt ceiling and overwhelmingly pass a potential spending resolution with
no changes to current government policy.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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if you have 2 masters, one beating the dogs and one ringing the bell that indicates a pile of crumbs to eat, and they take turns
at both of these tasks which one wins out?


the dogs can't tell the difference and don't know which is best....they will have to take what ever comes at them....

this is how fighting dogs are made......they learn commands to 'make it through' their life........


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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