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If your state isn’t expanding Medicaid for January 1, 2014

Some states aren’t expanding their Medicaid programs effective January 1, 2014. If you live in one of these states, you may not have as many options for health coverage. It will depend on where your income falls.

    If your income is more than 100% of the federal poverty level -- about $11,500 a year as a single person or about $23,500 for a family of 4 -- you will be able to buy a private health insurance plan in the Marketplace and may get lower costs based on your household size and income.
    If you make less than about $11,500 a year as a single person or about $23,500 for a family of 4, you may not qualify for lower costs for private insurance based on your income. However, you may be eligible for Medicaid, even without the expansion, based on your state’s existing rules.
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Yea.  It should help kill the TeaBaggers in 2014.  There is speculation that the GOP will lose the house.


"Kill the teabaggers", more liberal tolerance.  

Doesn't matter who wins what.  A growing number of people will not comply to more silly laws.  You think rolling over 20% of the population is going to be easy?


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It infuriates him that people in Ohio want to opt out.


Ohio's GOP Governor May Adopt Obamacare Via Executive Order

http://www.dispatch.com/conten.....icaid-expansion.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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          Shutdown Backfires on Republicans

After the shutdown, the health-care law has become MORE popular,
and a majority believes the government should be doing MORE.

Per the poll, 38% see the health-care law as a good idea, versus 43% who see it as a bad idea
-- up from 31% good idea, 44% bad idea last month...

(The next part is dedicated especially to Henry & Cicero)



And by a 52%-to-44% margin, respondents believe the
government should do more to solve problems.
Back in June, the public was split, 48% to 48%, on whether
the government should do more or less."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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(The next part is dedicated especially to Henry & Cicero)


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What problems are they talking about exactly? Are they talking about the problems they created in the 1st place like the housing bubble or the growing dependency on assistance, I want them to do more to solve problems as well, how they do it is what matters. You put up the woohoo gif and I don't think anyone here knows what you are cheering for.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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How about a fair tax code, something that's been needed for years.
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What problems are they talking about exactly? Are they talking about the problems they created in the 1st place like the housing bubble or the growing dependency on assistance, I want them to do more to solve problems as well, how they do it is what matters. You put up the woohoo gif and I don't think anyone here knows what you are cheering for.


Henry you want Govt to disappear, not solve problems.  You and your "god" the Paul twins want govt
to do LESS, not MORE.

The #1 issue with many Americans is affordable health care... Obamacare which you oppose.
You favor tax cuts for the rich while cutting programs to the poorest citizens.  

TeaBaggers live for a SMALLER GOVT... and most Americans are against waste in govt, but TeaBagger
or Libertarian SMALLER GOVT is usually about cutting programs for the poor and middle class while
funding tax cuts that benefit the wealthy.

Cicero and Henry and others on this board have called for SMALLER GOVT... this poll shows that most
citizens want just the opposite... they want GOVT To solve Problems.
Higher minimum wage, Health care for ALL Americans, education funding where needed, Reasonable
gun control, safeguarding the environment etc.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Sometimes the government getting out of the way is solving the problem, you have to remember the government getting involved in the first place is what caused most of our problems. Nowhere in the poll does it say the people want more government, like I said how they solve problems is the discussion here. Maybe they want the government to get more involved in abortion, oh but you don't want the government involved there. Maybe the people want the government involved in stopping Obamacare, the majority are against it but again that isn't a problem you want our reps to fix. Your poll doesn't give out any facts or opinions, in fact it crushes your point that Americans want Obamacare.


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Box wants all this crap yet he doesn't want to pay for it, me me me.


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Box wants all this crap yet he doesn't want to pay for it, me me me.


I have no problem paying my taxes.  I live in one of the best countries in the world with a strong military good hospitals
and infrastructure.  
I am proud to pay my taxes, but wish that all citizens paid their fair share of tax.  The progressive tax
system should have the richest citizens paying the highest tax rate, but that isn't the case.  Instead
of shutting down the govt over a lost cause... the GOP should be working to make the tax system
fair and easy to follow.  



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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I am proud to pay my taxes, but wish that all citizens paid their fair share of tax.  


yes box why do some not pay their fair share of taxes (cough hypocrite cough)


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yes box why do some not pay their fair share of taxes (cough hypocrite cough)


That's a nasty (Hypocrite) cough you have there Henry.  Too much tea, not enough facts.


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That's a nasty (Hypocrite) cough you have there Henry.  Too much tea, not enough facts.


My facts come right from you who admitted to getting tax breaks the overwhelming majority of Americans don't get. If you cared so much you would of never received a tax break, you should of rejected the offer, yet like those 1%ers you wanted more more more and wanted to give less less less


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My facts come right from you who admitted to getting tax breaks the overwhelming majority of Americans don't get. If you cared so much you would of never received a tax break, you should of rejected the offer, yet like those 1%ers you wanted more more more and wanted to give less less less


Henry sounds so jealous of a tax break for senior citizens or veterans... in truth, Henry hates all taxes!

The citizens of this state or this community have voted for tax exemptions for various reasons.  I'm sure
that if Henry owns his home that he accepts the STAR exemption on his home... he doesn't reject that
tax break and he shouldn't.  
I wonder if Henry deducts his home taxes from his income tax... another tax advantage for one group and
not for others.  

Income Tax breaks for homeowners single out one group for tax reductions while not others.  Similarly
tax breaks for veterans aid one group and not others.
Henry is whining about others tax break while taking full advantage of his own.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Henry sounds so jealous of a tax break for senior citizens or veterans... in truth, Henry hates all taxes!

The citizens of this state or this community have voted for tax exemptions for various reasons.  I'm sure
that if Henry owns his home that he accepts the STAR exemption on his home... he doesn't reject that
tax break and he shouldn't.  
I wonder if Henry deducts his home taxes from his income tax... another tax advantage for one group and
not for others.  

Income Tax breaks for homeowners single out one group for tax reductions while not others.  Similarly
tax breaks for veterans aid one group and not others.
Henry is whining about others tax break while taking full advantage of his own.  


I do hate all taxes but the big difference is I don't want the majority of services I pay for, you on the other hand want the best of both worlds, you want all this crap and you don't want to pay for it. If you cared so much and wanted more revenue in the form of taxation you would have opted out of your veteran tax exempt, you are a hypocrite plain and simple. As I said in the other topic you have no right to talk about how taxes are spent when you pay jack sh*t in taxes in the 1st place.


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