Quoted from Henry

Like I said they would get pissed when I tell them I don't rely on them, they would probably go into some rant while their face are turning beet red on "WHY WE NEED US".  If I asked them how many crimes have they actually stopped they would get even more infuriated because they also know they stop only about 1% of crimes from taking place. Truth and facts would have them fuming, I wouldn't doubt if they would resort to all they know which is violence

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"We make an appeal to authority whenever we try to justify an idea by citing some source of expertise as a reason for holding that idea. Appeals to authority are often valid, as when we tell someone to use a certain medicine because the doctor has prescribed it. But appeals to authority can be fallacious, as when we cite those who have no special competence regarding the matter at hand. The fallacy of appeal to authority, therefore, is an argument that attempts to overawe an opponent into accepting a conclusion by playing on his or her reluctance to challenge famous people, time honored customs, or widely held beliefs. The fallacy appeals, at base, to our feelings of modesty, to our sense that others know better than we do."
(S. Morris Engel, With Good Reason: An Introduction to Informal Fallacies, 3rd ed. St. Martin's Press, 1986)


"Another common fallacy is the appeal to authority, which consists of arguing a point by invoking the opinion of an expert. However, experts may be wrong, they may be expressing an opinion outside their area of expertise or they may have been incapacitated or joking when making the point. It is the expert's reasons that are valuable, not the fact that they were announced by an expert."
(Daniel Sokol, "The Right Way to Argue." BBC Magazine, December 20, 2006)

Quoted from Shadow

A Georgia family claims they called 911 in order to get medical help for a member of the family suffering an adverse reaction to diabetes medication.

But instead of an ambulance, the dispatcher sent two police officers, who proceeded to shoot and kill the 43-year-old Jack Lamar Roberson in front of his mother and fiance.

“They just came in and shot him,” said Roberson’s fiance, Alicia Herron, in a statement to First Coast news. “He didn’t say nothing, the police didn’t say nothing, anything, it was like a silent movie. You couldn’t hear anything, all you could hear were the gun shots go off and I seen them going into his body and he just fell down.”

The Waycross Police Department released a statement claiming that Roberson was armed with two weapons when the officers entered the home. He lunged at the officers, according to police, causing them to shoot him in self-defense. The department has not revealed what kind of weapons Roberson had in his possession.

But both Herron and Roberson’s mother said the department’s story is a lie.

“We don’t own two decent knives,” said Diane Roberson, the mother.

In a statement to The Florida Times-Union, she elaborated.

“We had no weapons in this house whatsoever,’’ she said. “My gentle lamb … He kissed me every morning, made me breakfast in bed, and they said he had two weapons.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10.....l-son/#ixzz2hMJit6i9

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On Oct. 14, Bobby Gerald Bennett of Dallas, 59, of Dallas, Texas began acting erratically. Sitting in a swivel chair in the middle of the cul de sac holding a knife, his mother, Joyce Jackson, called the police and asked the dispatcher to send officers who were trained in dealing with the mentally ill.

But when police arrived at 12:19 p.m., both officers quickly drew their weapons and one officer shot Bennett four times in the middle of the street, striking him once in the abdomen.

According to the press release issued by Dallas police Sgt. Warren Mitchell immediately after the shooting, Bennett “made statements indicating that he was not going to cooperate with the officers" and that “the incident escalated which led an officer to fire his weapon upon the individual.”

However, according to surveillance video captured by neighbor Maurice Bunch, Bennett was standing still during the entire incident and, when he was shot, his hands were down by his side. Bunch, who witnessed the shooting.

“When the officers told him freeze, he complied,” said Bunch, who witnessed the incident from his driveway across the street. “He did not move an inch, in suspended animation; he just stood there, you know? Bobby was conscious, he knew exactly what he was doing because I had been talking to him prior.”

According to Bunch, the police were “trying to kill” Bennett. Dallas police, after viewing Bunch’s surveillance footage, are now reviewing the incident:

We are in the very early stages of conducting a thorough criminal investigation of this incident. Once we complete the criminal investigation we will refer our findings to the Dallas County District Attorney's office [...] We will then begin the administrative investigation to determine whether our deadly force policy was violated. 



We are aware of video taken by citizens of this incident.

Bennett remains in the intensive care unit of a Dallas hospital.

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Legal action from families comes amid renewed calls for more thorough police
training for encounters with mentally ill people

Quoted from GrahamBonnet

Here is a litany of greatest 'hits' for J.O. Box who is the coppers' best friend and always defends them, no matter what. He will never, ever, ever come and say that the cops are scumbags when they act like it!

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Police face lawsuits in shootings of three emotionally disturbed people

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Legal action from families comes amid renewed calls for more thorough police
training for encounters with mentally ill people

The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/23/police-lawsuits-shootings-mentally-ill

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Legal action from families comes amid renewed calls for more thorough police
training for encounters with mentally ill people