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Henry
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Personally I agree with most Republicans (until the arrival of the TeaBaggers) who supported free birth
control for poor or low income women.
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Again birth control is free, it has always been free, as stated above self control is birth control. I'm amazed you don't see how bad you are bashing women right now, you are basically saying they don't have the brains for self control and are to stupid to know how their bodies work.


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DVOR my sister was born and died in 1954. As the priest knew my grandparents and Mom as they went to St. Adalberts weekly, my Mom married there and her and her sibling all attended St. Adalberts School and were baptized etc there, The priest knew my Mom, knew how hard she tried to carry her
baby to term (she was on bedrest for two months) and knew that she was in much pain from the loss he  was the one to tell my Mom dont' worry about the cemetery fee. I don't know if the priest paid for it himself, very well could have as my Mom said he was a wonderful caring man.

My Mom purchased a small stone many years later, with a little lamb on it, and was there when it was placed on the grave. But because there was no
record of perpetual care Urban threatened that it could be removed by the church/cemetery and could not be cemented in. The same was said to her by
the diocese.  

She worried everytime she went to visit her daugthers grave that the stone would have been removed by the church.

That's why that was the first thing I did , pay the perpetual fee , get the paperwork and put my Mom's mind at ease, at least for that.

That's when we ALL stopped going to St. Adalberts Church, for it wasn't a place of worship anymore, it was a place of needless pain and worry put on my
mother.


The Church is more than one person (priest or otherwise) -- and I know that this parish is a great place to be a member of and worship at.   The reason why I posted what I did is because a) I sympathize with you and your mother and b) wanted to explain the perpetual care fee has NOTHING to do with the monument or stone placed by the family.  The perpetual care fee goes into a fund required by the state.  The principal can never be touched and the interest is used to pay the costs of maintaining the cemetery - cutting the grass, maintaining the roadways, etc. - but not for maintaining monuments or stones placed by families.  So it shouldn't have mattered whether your mother paid the perpetual care fee -- actually today the fee is a % of the cost of purchasing the plot and not a separate fee.  

The only thing other thing I might say in regard to monuments or stones is that there are regulations regarding what types of monuments can and cannot be placed.  The rules changed over time -- generally as each new section of the cemetery was opened up for burials.  The next new section, which will be opening soon, may not even have head stones but just foot stones -- something that some cemeteries have mandated for many decades. But a final decision hasn't been made on this yet.





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I bet there would be no issue for Planned Parenthood(which is still an oxymoron) if, with every supply of birth control are 5 free
viagra pills.....

you know...just to make sure the investment is warranted


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Catholic bishop:
Pro-life groups ‘not really pro-life but merely anti-abortion’


Many self-described “pro-life” groups are not really pro-life, one Catholic bishop wrote last week.

Bishop Robert Lynch of St. Petersburg, Florida mainly dealt with accusations raised by the
Population Research Institute. The pro-life group has attacked Catholic charities operating
in Africa for allegedly providing contraceptives and working alongside family planning groups.
Lynch also complained about pro-life groups in general.
The bishop observed that pro-life groups were silent about the execution of a severely
mentally ill man in Florida. John Ferguson, a 65-year-old paranoid schizophrenic, was
executed by the state of Florida via lethal injection last Monday.
“Many priests grow weary of continual calls to action for legislative support for abortion
and contraception related issues but nothing for immigration reform, food aid, and capital punishment,”

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has stated that ending abortion
and euthanasia are primary goals in building a “culture of life” in the country. However,
the USCCB has also repeatedly included prohibitions on firearms, abolishment of the
death penalty, and strengthening of welfare programs as part of the “culture of life.”






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Big difference between abortion and capitol punishment, trying to tie the 2 together will always fail.


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Big difference between abortion and capitol punishment,trying to tie the 2 together
will always fail.


I didn't Henry.  The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops did.  Your disagreement is
with them, not me.


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I didn't Henry.  The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops did.  Your disagreement is
with them, not me.


The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops didn't post it in the thread, YOU DID.
I find it humorous when you toss the troll grenade into the thread, and then claim innocence... Funny, but classic Boxy  


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Quoted from Henry
Big difference between abortion and capitol punishment, trying to tie the 2 together will always fail.


I disagree.

Abortion and capitol punishment are both pro-death.

You geniuses are aware that capitol punishment has executed innocent people.

Oops, sorry.

I have to agree, most so-called pro-lifers are selective pro-lifers.

They support wars, drones, assassinations, invading countries, cops killing those who resist, etc.

Pro-lifers who support killing are morons.



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I disagree.

Abortion and capitol punishment are both pro-death.

You geniuses are aware that capitol punishment has executed innocent people.




One is pro-death and yes a couple innocent people have been executed and that is a tragedy, the other every death is an innocent victim. I'm for the death penalty but I also want there to be no doubt of their guilt before the execution takes place, example they have a video of someone robbing a store and blowing the cashiers head off, in those examples I have no problem with them getting the needle.


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I didn't Henry.  The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops did.  Your disagreement is
with them, not me.


Did I say you box or quote you, I disagree with that Bishop from your story. Getting a little paranoid there


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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BoxofCrap would have gone along with Hitler's "final solution" for Jews because polls showed that most Germans supported Hitler.


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BoxofCrap would have gone along with Hitler's "final solution" for Jews because
polls showed that most Germans supported Hitler.


DVOR Always gets it wrong... and I mean ALWAYS!  

A history lesson for DVOR...
Hitler's Third Reich invaded the bedrooms of its citizens before
it moved its troops into Sudetenland and Poland. Within months of coming
to power in 1933, the Nazis forbade the display of contraceptives and all
birth control clinics were closed.

Abortions were termed “acts of sabotage against Germany's racial future,”
and prosecutions of abortion providers jumped 50% between 1934 and 1938.
Attempts were made to register pregnancies, and in 1943, Germany at war
across the world still found time to pass legislation introducing the death
penalty for abortion providers


History proves that DVOR is on HITLER'S SIDE with very similar views,
and
Choice is on the side of freedom.

(SORRY DVOR!  YOU'RE WRONG AGAIN)


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DVOR Always gets it wrong... and I mean ALWAYS!  

A history lesson for DVOR...
Hitler's Third Reich invaded the bedrooms of its citizens before
it moved its troops into Sudetenland and Poland. Within months of coming
to power in 1933, the Nazis forbade the display of contraceptives and all
birth control clinics were closed.

Abortions were termed “acts of sabotage against Germany's racial future,”
and prosecutions of abortion providers jumped 50% between 1934 and 1938.
Attempts were made to register pregnancies, and in 1943, Germany at war
across the world still found time to pass legislation introducing the death
penalty for abortion providers


History proves that DVOR is on HITLER'S SIDE with very similar views,
and
Choice is on the side of freedom.

(SORRY DVOR!  YOU'RE WRONG AGAIN)


Those who support abortion are NOT on the side of freedom -- they have denied freedom to over 50,000,000 babies in the U.S. that have been slaughtered in the womb over the past 40 years.  
Those who support abortion are supporting infanticide ,,, a horrendous atrocity around the world that is the modern day Holocaust.

As for your stupid comment claiming that i am wrong again -- you obviously did NOT read what I had posted.  So let me explain it again:  You and your looney left wing nut buddies think that anything is ok .. if it is popular.  Therefore, you would have fallen for Hitler because he was popular and polls showed that many in that country supported his actions.

For the record, I have NOT made any comments suggesting that birth control be banned or that any family planning clinics be closed ---- EXCEPT that I am opposed to abortion being used as a part of family planning ... or as an alternative to using contraceptives.

Now go slither back under the rock that you and your pro-death buddies live under.


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Those who support abortion are NOT on the side of freedom -- they have denied freedom to over 50,000,000 babies in the U.S. that have been slaughtered in the womb over the past 40 years.  
Those who support abortion are supporting infanticide ,,, a horrendous atrocity around the world that is the modern day Holocaust.

As for your stupid comment claiming that i am wrong again -- you obviously did NOT read what I had posted.  So let me explain it again:  You and your looney left wing nut buddies think that anything is ok .. if it is popular.  Therefore, you would have fallen for Hitler because he was popular and polls showed that many in that country supported his actions.

For the record, I have NOT made any comments suggesting that birth control be banned or that any family planning clinics be closed ---- EXCEPT that I am opposed to abortion being used as a part of family planning ... or as an alternative to using contraceptives.

Now go slither back under the rock that you and your pro-death buddies live under.


freedom as compared to what? by who's definition? who's boundaries?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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