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So what if Evangelicals are a minority?

Only a minority of people insist on abortion on demand including late term abortion and gender selection abortion, and yet they insist on shoving their "beliefs" down everyone else's throats.

Who is being forced to have an abortion???
No one.
Who is forcing their religious beliefs "Down the throats" of those who don't share their religion?
Right Wing anti Choice religious fanatics.

Quoted from Box A Rox

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Who is forcing their religious beliefs "Down the throats" of those who don't share their religion?

The statist.  I can't allow people to smoke cigarettes on my private property.  It's illegal!

Quoted from Box A Rox

Who is being forced to have an abortion???
No one.
Who is forcing their religious beliefs "Down the throats" of those who don't share their religion?
Right Wing anti Choice religious fanatics.

All laws are based on the moral beliefs (a.k.a. religion) of a group of people.  If you insist on taking "religion" out of all laws than you would have to eliminate all laws including laws against murder and stealing.

The perfect example of the hypocrisy and inconsistency in the left-wing nut belief system was the failure of the Women's Equality Act.   The Cuomo, Silver and the mindless Democratic caucus in the State Legislature CLAIMED that they were so concerned about women's issues -- YET they were willing scuttle the other 9 parts in the bill just because they couldn't get the 1 part on abortion.   Never mind the fact that the various groups who opposed the abortion provision did NOT oppose, and in some cases (Catholic Church) openly supported the other 9 provisions of the bill.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

All laws are based on the moral beliefs (a.k.a. religion) of a group of people.  If you insist on taking "religion" out of all laws than you would have to eliminate all laws including laws against murder and stealing.

AND

BoxofBullCrap, like all left-wing nuts, avoids having an actually intelligent debate by ignoring what the other person actually said and just throwing out inane, pre-packaged bits of nonsense.

ALL laws are derived from a group of peoples moral beliefs.  Even if the nation was 100% atheism - the laws would come from their moral beliefs.

I would remind BoxoBullCrap that I never said that laws must come from the Bible or that the Bible was the law of the land.  Suggesting that all Pro-Lifers believe that is just a red herring, and a feeble attempt on the Pro-Deathers side to change the subject because they know that their position is RATIONALLY inconsistent.

The Pro-Death position is rationally inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution because right in the very Preamble the words are written:  We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

How is it protecting the general welfare of or securing the blessings of liberty to allow the killing in the womb of millions of Americans ?  EVERY American - even the unborn child in the womb -has the right to enjoy that liberty and to enjoy the equal protection of the Constitution.

Then look at the Bill of Right.

How is it consistent with the Constitution to allow one person to be judge and jury when imposing the death penalty on the child in her womb?   Where is the due process before the child's rights, life and body are literally ripped apart?

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The Pro-Death position is rationally inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution because right in the very Preamble the words are written:  We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The Anti Choice position is rationally inconsistent with the U.S. Constitution because right in the
very Preamble the words are written:
  We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish
Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general
Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and
establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"We the PEOPLE"... not we the "zygotes", we the "embryos" or we the "fetuses".

But if you insist on making this issue one of religion:

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‘Friendly Atheist’ informs megachurch:
We’ve heard all of it before

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Hemant Mehta of the “Friendly Atheist” blog at Patheos sat down in front of thousands of Christians
on Sunday to discuss his non-belief.

Mehta talked about atheism with minister Randy Frazee at Oak Hills Church in San Antonio. During the
discussion, Mehta explained that many atheists were afraid to “come out” because others would assume
it meant they were immoral. Mehta himself scrubbed his book from his resume, fearing a future employer
would be wary about hiring an atheist.

Mehta also explained many Christians had negative stereotypes about atheists that prevented fruitful
conversation.

He said it was frustrating that Christians assumed atheists lacked belief in God simply because they
were ignorant of the good news of the Bible. Most atheists, he noted, were former Christians.

“Every time that someone tries to convince me that God exists or that Christianity is the right path
forward, it seems that they fall into that same stereotypical pattern where they think if they throw
a magical Bible verse at me that is going to do the trick, or that clearly I haven’t read the Bible —
which I have — or if I hadn’t studied it, or if they hand me a Lee Strobel book that’s going to do the
trick.
We’ve heard all of it before.”

Actually, BoxofBullCrap is the one who keeps bringing up religion and the Bible.

My position is based on science (irrefutable biological facts) and my belief that our Constitution provided EQUAL PROTECTION FOR ALL and my belief that THE fundamental Human Right and Constitutional Right is the individual's Right to Life.

First - it is irrefutable that the fetus growing inside a mother's womb is a pre-born human baby.  When those who support abortion say otherwise they are either (or both) extremely ignorant or liars attempting to deceive to force their views on others.   A fetus inside a mother's womb has never grown into a turnip or a pancreas or a kangaroo or  anything other than a human baby.  It begins to have a heart beat, brain activity and other human bodily functions at various points during pregnancy.

Second - if we believe in EQUAL PROTECTION FOR ALL as well as Human and Constitutional Rights than they should apply to ALL humans ......  Those who support abortion sound just like pro-slavers, pro-Jim Crow law, pro-apartheid forces and pro-Nazis who claim that certain groups of people are "not really fully human."   It is because of this that I firmly and sincerely believe that those who support abortion rank among the WORST oppressors in human history ---- due to them  HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of humans have been exterminated - literally ripped apart limb by limb.

Securing the Right to Life for ALL humans from conception to natural death is THE greatest Civil Rights and Human Rights battle in human history.  

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

First - it is irrefutable that the fetus growing inside a mother's womb is a pre-born human baby.  

A preborn human baby???  

For lunch today I had scrambled "preborn chicken" . (an egg)
As I ate my lunch, I saw a grey squirrel eating a "preborn Oak Tree". (an acorn)
Outside there was a "preborn butterfly" on the screen. (A caterpillar)

BoxofBullCrap proves that he can't actually respond with anything intelligent to support his pro-death beliefs.  

The pro-death position is intellectually, scientifically and otherwise bankrupt.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

BoxofBullCrap proves that he can't actually respond with anything intelligent to support his pro-death beliefs.  
The pro-death position is intellectually, scientifically and otherwise bankrupt.

DVOR had nothing to post... and he posted it!

After thinking about this for oh let's say 12 seconds, it occurred to me, are evangelicals really the minority? Sure by actual number of people, they are, but if we only slightly change the parameters to combined weight....................... DVOR may actually once again make them the majority

I love the fact that we are a constitutional republic created to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority, and gloating that a minority constituency is irrelevant and must submit to the majority.  If you put any other group of people into the category of minority, lefties like box would be screaming that the democrat party is the party that protects the minority.  Not in the case of evangelicals, it's celebrated as a political victory for leftists.

I blame the evangelicals for playing the same game.  They should have preached their right under the constitution to practice their religion, not their majority position to push public policy.  They were seduced into a game that they may lose.

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DVOR had nothing to post... and he posted it!

Once again -- you can't actually say anything intelligent to counter the cogent and correct arguments that I made -- so you resort to posting something stupid.